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wajju
This is a very informative topic about the GSM technology.This is the technology through which we use our cell phone.i will try to provide as much information i can.In this topic u can ask anything regarding gsm technology and how it work.Whis is the hardware and software which is used in GSM
khan_amer
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i ll be waiting for the information. miner.gif


Shokh
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Feb 12 2007, 08:28 AM) *
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i ll be waiting for the information. miner.gif



Wo to theek hay magar ye hath may hathora lay kar kahan mazdoori karnay ja rahay hain look.gif
khan_amer
QUOTE(Shokh @ Feb 12 2007, 12:57 PM) *
Wo to theek hay magar ye hath may hathora lay kar kahan mazdoori karnay ja rahay hain look.gif



sari umr aisay hi kund zehan rehna.. ishraay bhi samajh nahi aatay


iss haToRay ka matlab hay kay agr inhooN nay maloomat na deeN tu ham iss haToRay key madad say Dig-Out ker laiN gay.. paRa kuch palay
Shokh
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Feb 12 2007, 11:27 AM) *
sari umr aisay hi kund zehan rehna.. ishraay bhi samajh nahi aatay
iss haToRay ka matlab hay kay agr inhooN nay maloomat na deeN tu ham iss haToRay key madad say Dig-Out ker laiN gay.. paRa kuch palay



Ye kund zehan to galibaan apki ami apkay baray may kahtin hain na 1-bachondunia.gif Is liye nahi kahtin kay aap ghar say bahir ja kar loogon ko ye kahna shoroon kar dain 1-current.gif

Khan Sahib auzaar to sahi lena tha na hath may bored2.gif Chalain hain digout karnay, huh 0-17_wink.gif
khan_amer
QUOTE(Shokh @ Feb 12 2007, 01:44 PM) *
Ye kund zehan to galibaan apki ami apkay baray may kahtin hain na 1-bachondunia.gif Is liye nahi kahtin kay aap ghar say bahir ja kar loogon ko ye kahna shoroon kar dain 1-current.gif

Khan Sahib auzaar to sahi lena tha na hath may bored2.gif Chalain hain digout karnay, huh 0-17_wink.gif



tu app ka dawa hay kay app kund zehan nahi haiN..

Nawaz Shareef ka bhi yehi dawa hay E9.gif



ab jaldi maiN ju auzaar mila howi lay ker ana tha na
Shokh
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Feb 12 2007, 11:51 AM) *
tu app ka dawa hay kay app kund zehan nahi haiN..

Nawaz Shareef ka bhi yehi dawa hay E9.gif

ab jaldi maiN ju auzaar mila howi lay ker ana tha na



Einstein ka bhi yehi dawa tha 0-25_coolguy.gif Wesay jaldi kay kaam shetaan kay hotay hain whisper.gif

khan_amer
QUOTE(Shokh @ Feb 12 2007, 01:57 PM) *
Einstein ka bhi yehi dawa tha 0-25_coolguy.gif Wesay jaldi kay kaam shetaan kay hotay hain whisper.gif


wohi tu. dawa tu sab hi kertay haiN..

waisay app Einstein key category maiN nahi ho sakteeN.. woh tu biachara sari umer logooN key behtri kay liya kaam kerta raha.. app zaroor Nawaz Shreef key category key hooN gee...


Khalish
Highly informative post, through post # 1 to post # 7. graduated.gif
Fajr
QUOTE(Khalish @ Feb 12 2007, 02:02 PM) *
Highly informative post, through post # 1 to post # 7. graduated.gif



tu aisay kam kertu hay GSM technology 1-think.gif
Shokh
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Feb 12 2007, 12:01 PM) *
wohi tu. dawa tu sab hi kertay haiN..

waisay app Einstein key category maiN nahi ho sakteeN.. woh tu biachara sari umer logooN key behtri kay liya kaam kerta raha.. app zaroor Nawaz Shreef key category key hooN gee...



Haan, kion kay ma bichari nahi hoon 1-bachondunia.gif
Shokh
QUOTE(Khalish @ Feb 12 2007, 12:02 PM) *
Highly informative post, through post # 1 to post # 7. graduated.gif



Khuda jhoot na bulwaye kabi aap say icon_peace.gif
Shokh
QUOTE(Fajr @ Feb 12 2007, 12:04 PM) *
tu aisay kam kertu hay GSM technology 1-think.gif



Tum nay phir apnay dimaag par zoar dalna shoru kar dia, baad may na kahna kay gutnoo may dard ho raha hay dunno.gif
khan_amer
QUOTE(Shokh @ Feb 12 2007, 02:40 PM) *
Khuda jhoot na bulwaye kabi aap say icon_peace.gif

icon_peace.gif icon_peace.gif
Shokh
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Feb 12 2007, 12:43 PM) *
icon_peace.gif icon_peace.gif


Nakal choor cheerleader.gif
MJB
QUOTE(Khalish @ Feb 12 2007, 12:02 PM) *
Highly informative post, through post # 1 to post # 7. graduated.gif

tashish ker lain post#2 se post#8 tak
MJB
QUOTE(Shokh @ Feb 12 2007, 12:41 PM) *
Tum nay phir apnay dimaag par zoar dalna shoru kar dia, baad may na kahna kay gutnoo may dard ho raha hay dunno.gif

acha tu inki taraqee ho gai hey,,,, takhnoo se ghutnoo tak
Fajr
QUOTE(MJB @ Feb 12 2007, 02:57 PM) *
acha tu inki taraqee ho gai hey,,,, takhnoo se ghutnoo tak



lo bhala ham app ka muqabala kaisay ker saktay hain. agr hamaray pass bhi gutnoon aur takhnoon main hoti tu app key jagaah na hotay ?
MJB
QUOTE(Fajr @ Feb 12 2007, 01:07 PM) *
lo bhala ham app ka muqabala kaisay ker saktay hain. agr hamaray pass bhi gutnoon aur takhnoon main hoti tu app key jagaah na hotay ?

be-shak,,, aap bhala kaisey muqabla ker saktey hain,,,,,,,,,, kion ke mera dimagh aur aqal tu apney sahih thikanoon pe hey,,,,,,,, takhnoon ya gutnoo main nahin,,,,,,,,, tumhari abhi taraqi ho gai hey,,,,, aisey hi mahnat kertey rahey tu opper ki taraf taraqee ka amal jari rah sakta hey,,,,,,, aur ho sakta hey ke shaid tum merey barabar aa hi jao
Shokh
QUOTE(MJB @ Feb 12 2007, 12:57 PM) *
acha tu inki taraqee ho gai hey,,,, takhnoo se ghutnoo tak



Darasal in kay gutnoo aur takhnoo may zada fasilah nahi dunno.gif
Shokh
QUOTE(MJB @ Feb 12 2007, 01:12 PM) *
be-shak,,, aap bhala kaisey muqabla ker saktey hain,,,,,,,,,, kion ke mera dimagh aur aqal tu apney sahih thikanoon pe hey,,,,,,,, takhnoon ya gutnoo main nahin,,,,,,,,, tumhari abhi taraqi ho gai hey,,,,, aisey hi mahnat kertey rahey tu opper ki taraf taraqee ka amal jari rah sakta hey,,,,,,, aur ho sakta hey ke shaid tum merey barabar aa hi jao



Ahem ahem, Fajr ki bisti kharab karnay kay copyrights siraf meray pass hain 1-afsana.gif
Fajr
QUOTE(Shokh @ Feb 12 2007, 03:24 PM) *
Darasal in kay gutnoo aur takhnoo may zada fasilah nahi dunno.gif



oye app kahin meri bisti kernay key koshish tu nahi ker raheen medieval.gif
MJB
QUOTE(Shokh @ Feb 12 2007, 01:27 PM) *
Ahem ahem, Fajr ki bisti kharab karnay kay copyrights siraf meray pass hain 1-afsana.gif

acha Ji,,,,, sooo sooorry,,, me going back on work 0-sleeping.gif tussi apna kaam chuki rakho E21.gif cheerleader.gif
Shokh
QUOTE(Fajr @ Feb 12 2007, 01:36 PM) *
oye app kahin meri bisti kernay key koshish tu nahi ker raheen medieval.gif



Koshish say kia muraad hay apki chmp.gif
Shokh
QUOTE(MJB @ Feb 12 2007, 01:40 PM) *
acha Ji,,,,, sooo sooorry,,, me going back on work 0-sleeping.gif tussi apna kaam chuki rakho E21.gif cheerleader.gif



Hain 0-22_yikes.gif ye aap kaam par skirt pehan kar , do poonian bana kar jatay hain dunno.gif
MJB
QUOTE(Shokh @ Feb 12 2007, 01:49 PM) *
Hain 0-22_yikes.gif ye aap kaam par skirt pehan kar , do poonian bana kar jatay hain dunno.gif

oo ji,,, yeah tu aap ka kaaam hey,,,,,,,, main ne tu usss se pahley hi apna kaaam start ker diya tha 0-sleeping.gif
Shokh
QUOTE(MJB @ Feb 12 2007, 01:52 PM) *
oo ji,,, yeah tu aap ka kaaam hey,,,,,,,, main ne tu usss se pahley hi apna kaaam start ker diya tha 0-sleeping.gif



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Please carry on... 0-sleeping.gif
MJB
QUOTE(Shokh @ Feb 12 2007, 01:55 PM) *
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Please carry on... 0-sleeping.gif

thankooo 0-sleeping.gif 0-sleeping.gif 0-sleeping.gif
Shokh
QUOTE(MJB @ Feb 12 2007, 01:56 PM) *
thankooo 0-sleeping.gif 0-sleeping.gif 0-sleeping.gif



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wajju
doostoon is topic ko waste mat kareen ise informative banaee apne lie bhi aur dusroon ke lie bhi.I will be waiting for ur questions:)
khan_amer
QUOTE(wajju @ Feb 13 2007, 11:11 AM) *
doostoon is topic ko waste mat kareen ise informative banaee apne lie bhi aur dusroon ke lie bhi.I will be waiting for ur questions:)


Jaisay app kahaiN janab rose.gif

Per kiya yeh behter na hoga kay pehlay app hamay GSM ka basic introduction day daiN iss kay kuch fawa'id (dosri technologies kay muqablay maiN) ginwa daiN tu ham bhi questioning start ker sakaiN.

App kay reply kay muntazir haiN
MJB
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Feb 13 2007, 09:24 AM) *
Jaisay app kahaiN janab rose.gif

Per kiya yeh behter na hoga kay pehlay app hamay GSM ka basic introduction day daiN iss kay kuch fawa'id (dosri technologies kay muqablay maiN) ginwa daiN tu ham bhi questioning start ker sakaiN.

App kay reply kay muntazir haiN

i request section mod to delete all irrevelent replies,, so that the post can start from begining
thanks
khan_amer
QUOTE(MJB @ Feb 13 2007, 01:07 PM) *
i request section mod to delete all irrevelent replies,, so that the post can start from begining
thanks



Let Topic Starter post the relevant replies then if deemed necessary we will tackle the issue of irrelevent replies. Thanks for your suggestion.
tihami
me ko tu itnaa pata hay k pak main pahlaay aik hi GSM service thee .. mobilink,, n baki 2 AIMS theen.... PAKTEL n Instafone.
phr U-FONE .. aayee as GSM , tu INSTA hou gayee digital AIMS ( as in USA) n Paktel nay bhi baad main GSM start kar diya,,, n ohr ful say GSM hu gayee... ab baki ju new companies haain woh bhi sab GSM par hi haain.. INSTA waloon ka naheen pata...

wajju
Sab se pehle to me aap ko basic introduction deta hoon.

GSM
mean's
GLOBAL SYSTEM FOR MOBILE COMMUNICATION

Doston yeh technology 1982 me introduce hui.Aur zahir ha technology me sab se age rehne wali country yani USA ne ise implement kia 1983 me.Us waqt Gsm ka pehle naam (AMPS) Advance mobile phone service tha.USA ke shana bashana UK ne is technology ko 1985 me implement karne ke sath sath ise (TACS) Total access communication system ka naam dia.Aur finally 1991 me yeh technology GSM ke naam se wajud me aai.

Computer se related har field wireless hoti jarahi haan hamare pakistan me buhat kam aisi universities aur institutes haan jahan hamein wireless technology ke bare me parhaya jata ha.Dear friends asal me hamare youth me inti awareness nahi ha is technology ki jo ke buhat afsoos naak baat ha.Television me,exibitions me , har jaga ufone,telenor,warid,mobilink ke advertisements ate haan aur hum bharpur participate karte haan lekin yeh companies kaise operate karti haan yeh buhat kam loog jante haan maze ki baat to yeh ha ke in companies ke almost 70% engineers dusri countries se hire kie jate haan aur mu mangi salaries lete haan.
wajju
Aaye ab zara nazar dalte haan ke pakistan ne is technology ko kab aur kaise adopt kia.Pakistan me dono technologies yani (AMPS) aur (GMS) 1995-96 ke darmiyan implement hui.Instaphone joke sab se phli mobile company thi is company ne (AMPS) advance mobile phone service technology use ki jise hum AMMS kehte haan aur Mobilink jo instaphone ke kuch arse baad wajud me aai is company ne (GSM) global system for mobile communication technology use ki.Ab zara nazar dalte haan ke according to (PTA) pakistan telecommunication authority ke mutabiq september 2004 tak 6,556,942
pechle 9 years mein:
6 crore 55 lacs 69 thousand and 42

Yaad rakhiega Pakistan ki total abadi 15 crore ha handlebars.png
MJB
QUOTE(wajju @ Feb 13 2007, 05:23 PM) *
Ab zara nazar dalte haan ke according to (PTA) pakistan telecommunication authority ke mutabiq september 2004 tak 6,556,942
pechle 9 years mein:
6 crore 55 lacs 69 thousand and 42

Yaad rakhiega Pakistan ki total abadi 15 crore ha handlebars.png

zara ghor se daikh lain,,, aur verify ker lain,,,,,, 6,556,942 6 crore nahin balkey 65 lakh bantey hain

and secondly AMMS uar GSM main bunyadi faraq kya hey,,,,, apki statement se tu lagta hey ke yeah 1 hi cheez hain
wajju
QUOTE(MJB @ Feb 13 2007, 09:38 PM) *
zara ghor se daikh lain,,, aur verify ker lain,,,,,, 6,556,942 6 crore nahin balkey 65 lakh bantey hain

and secondly AMMS uar GSM main bunyadi faraq kya hey,,,,, apki statement se tu lagta hey ke yeah 1 hi cheez hain

Thanks aap ne meri mistake find out karii ok correction viewers.Is ko is tarhan karlete haan
pechle 9 years mein:

65 lacs fifty six thousand nine hundred and fourty two haan
6556,942

wajju
QUOTE(MJB @ Feb 13 2007, 09:38 PM) *
zara ghor se daikh lain,,, aur verify ker lain,,,,,, 6,556,942 6 crore nahin balkey 65 lakh bantey hain

and secondly AMMS uar GSM main bunyadi faraq kya hey,,,,, apki statement se tu lagta hey ke yeah 1 hi cheez hain


0-17_wink.gif thanks for asking the first question of the topic i will tell u tommorow inshallah the difference between AMPS and GSM
tihami
QUOTE(wajju @ Feb 13 2007, 02:56 PM) *
Sab se pehle to me aap ko basic introduction deta hoon.

GSM
mean's
GLOBAL SYSTEM FOR MOBILE COMMUNICATION

Doston yeh technology 1982 me introduce hui.Aur zahir ha technology me sab se age rehne wali country yani USA ne ise implement kia 1983 me.Us waqt Gsm ka pehle naam (AMPS) Advance mobile phone service tha.USA ke shana bashana UK ne is technology ko 1985 me implement karne ke sath sath ise (TACS) Total access communication system ka naam dia.Aur finally 1991 me yeh technology GSM ke naam se wajud me aai.

Computer se related har field wireless hoti jarahi haan hamare pakistan me buhat kam aisi universities aur institutes haan jahan hamein wireless technology ke bare me parhaya jata ha.Dear friends asal me hamare youth me inti awareness nahi ha is technology ki jo ke buhat afsoos naak baat ha.Television me,exibitions me , har jaga ufone,telenor,warid,mobilink ke advertisements ate haan aur hum bharpur participate karte haan lekin yeh companies kaise operate karti haan yeh buhat kam loog jante haan maze ki baat to yeh ha ke in companies ke almost 70% engineers dusri countries se hire kie jate haan aur mu mangi salaries lete haan.


jahan tak mujhay info hay USA main ziada tar AMMS technology hay jab k UK main GSM hay.......
wajju
QUOTE(tihami @ Feb 14 2007, 12:16 AM) *
jahan tak mujhay info hay USA main ziada tar AMMS technology hay jab k UK main GSM hay.......


USA me CDMA technology agai ha

AMPS
TACS
GSM
GSM 1G first generation
GSM 2G second generation
Gsm 3G third Generation (pakistan 3G pe ha )
GSM CDMA (code division multiple access) USA me yeh technology implement ho chuki ha
GSM 4G fourth generation nearly implement hone wala hoga ya ho chuka ha.

wajju
QUOTE(wajju @ Feb 14 2007, 12:14 AM) *
0-17_wink.gif thanks for asking the first question of the topic i will tell u tommorow inshallah the difference between AMPS and GSM



GSM aur AMPS me basic difference yeh ha ke AMPs technology analog ha aur GSM technology digital ha aur hum WAP aur GPRS jaisi wireless applications feautures aur protocols use karsakte haan joke APMs me nahi thin.
khan_amer
Janab Wajju Sahib

App key dee howi malomaat paRh ker tu aisayhi mehsoos hota hay kay GSM technology nay AMPS ko replace ker diya hay aur mustaqbil GSM ka hi hay.


kya mera above conclusion sahi hay ?
wajju
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Feb 14 2007, 11:21 AM) *
Janab Wajju Sahib

App key dee howi malomaat paRh ker tu aisayhi mehsoos hota hay kay GSM technology nay AMPS ko replace ker diya hay aur mustaqbil GSM ka hi hay.
kya mera above conclusion sahi hay ?


Janab khan amer jaisa ke aap aur hum sab jante haan ke technology hamesha advance hoti gai ha.Yeh kehna galat hoga ke GSM ka mustaqbil ha.Lekin yeh kehna galat na hoga ke ane wala future telecom industry ka ha in terms of computing.Ab dekhna yeh ha ke 4Generation mobile networks me har cell phone ko 1 ip assign ki jaeegi aur data transfer speed 100 Mbps and 1Gbps hogi 0-25_coolguy.gif
In short yeh ke hamara cell phone ki applications aur softwares internet se integrate hojaeege with 24 hours connectivity. shades.gif
khan_amer
QUOTE(wajju @ Feb 14 2007, 12:02 PM) *
Janab khan amer jaisa ke aap aur hum sab jante haan ke technology hamesha advance hoti gai ha.Yeh kehna galat hoga ke GSM ka mustaqbil ha.Lekin yeh kehna galat na hoga ke ane wala future telecom industry ka ha in terms of computing.Ab dekhna yeh ha ke 4Generation mobile networks me har cell phone ko 1 ip assign ki jaeegi aur data transfer speed 100 Mbps and 1Gbps hogi 0-25_coolguy.gif
In short yeh ke hamara cell phone ki applications aur softwares internet se integrate hojaeege with 24 hours connectivity. shades.gif


yup 4th generation kay baray maiN aisi bataiN abhi tak suni aur paRhi haiN... and i agree kay aanay wala dor communication ka hi hay.. jisay bhi iss per kamaal hasil hoga wohi duniya per rule ker sakay ga.

Now another question, Pakistan, ya dosray mumalik maiN aisay kon say Idaray haiN ju iss technology kay lya train kertay haiN?
wajju
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Feb 14 2007, 02:27 PM) *
yup 4th generation kay baray maiN aisi bataiN abhi tak suni aur paRhi haiN... and i agree kay aanay wala dor communication ka hi hay.. jisay bhi iss per kamaal hasil hoga wohi duniya per rule ker sakay ga.

Now another question, Pakistan, ya dosray mumalik maiN aisay kon say Idaray haiN ju iss technology kay lya train kertay haiN?


Foreign universities me for example

Engineering in communication technology
Engineering in digital signal processing
Engineering in Telecommunications

kafi haan is field me ane ke lie.GSM training me practical implementation baad me sikhai jati ha bas theory strong hona zaroori ha.

central idea yeh ha ke ak dafa aap kisi telecom campany ke kisi bhi frequency engineering department me hire ho gae aap ko sab woh khud hi train kardenge koi tension wali baat nahi 0-25_coolguy.gif
Pori world me yehi hota ha lekin Pakistan me Aise institutes ya universities buhat kam haan infact institute to koi ha hi nahi jo yeh short cources like MATLAB,SS7 signalling wagera sikhaee. dunno.gif
khan_amer
QUOTE(wajju @ Feb 14 2007, 01:02 PM) *
Foreign universities me for example

Engineering in communication technology
Engineering in digital signal processing
Engineering in Telecommunications

kafi haan is field me ane ke lie.GSM training me practical implementation baad me sikhai jati ha bas theory strong hona zaroori ha.

central idea yeh ha ke ak dafa aap kisi telecom campany ke kisi bhi frequency engineering department me hire ho gae aap ko sab woh khud hi train kardenge koi tension wali baat nahi 0-25_coolguy.gif
Pori world me yehi hota ha lekin Pakistan me Aise institutes ya universities buhat kam haan infact institute to koi ha hi nahi jo yeh short cources like MATLAB,SS7 signalling wagera sikhaee. dunno.gif



Meray khayal say Lahore maiN eak do institutes haiN ju kay MATLAB waghera sikhatay haiN...

ab un ka naam tu mujhay sahi yaad nahi raha.. may be Aptech ya aisa hi kuch naam tha
wajju
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Feb 14 2007, 03:29 PM) *
Meray khayal say Lahore maiN eak do institutes haiN ju kay MATLAB waghera sikhatay haiN...

ab un ka naam tu mujhay sahi yaad nahi raha.. may be Aptech ya aisa hi kuch naam tha


institutes haan lekin na hone ke barabar.Karachi me silicon valley ke naam se ak institute open hone wale tha lkein open hone se pehle hi band ho gaya.Instructors nahi mile aur mile bhi to buhat expensive 0-sosad.gif

Acha aap logoon ke zehen me 1 cheeze to ati hogi ke yeh jaga jaga towers lage hue haan mobile networks ke???? yeh kaise kaam karte haan
khan_amer
QUOTE(wajju @ Feb 14 2007, 02:02 PM) *
institutes haan lekin na hone ke barabar.Karachi me silicon valley ke naam se ak institute open hone wale tha lkein open hone se pehle hi band ho gaya.Instructors nahi mile aur mile bhi to buhat expensive 0-sosad.gif

Acha aap logoon ke zehen me 1 cheeze to ati hogi ke yeh jaga jaga towers lage hue haan mobile networks ke???? yeh kaise kaam karte haan



Govt. nay IT ( ju kay ab ICT key tarf move ho rahee hay) kay liya chand naye programs start kiya haiN, i think in UET maiN, ( ab maiN Pakistan maiN nahi hota, only source of this kind of info is NEWS PAPERS) app kay khayal maiN un jadeed courses maiN iss hawalay say cheez shamil hay?

meray khayal say yeh towers, signal boost kertay haiN! am i right?
wajju
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Feb 14 2007, 04:25 PM) *
Govt. nay IT ( ju kay ab ICT key tarf move ho rahee hay) kay liya chand naye programs start kiya haiN, i think in UET maiN, ( ab maiN Pakistan maiN nahi hota, only source of this kind of info is NEWS PAPERS) app kay khayal maiN un jadeed courses maiN iss hawalay say cheez shamil hay?

meray khayal say yeh towers, signal boost kertay haiN! am i right?


Punjab university ne yeh course launch kia ha :

ICT (Information & Computer Technology) Applications for Library & Information Management from Pakistan Scientific and Technological Information Centre-PASTIC (Islamabad)

Yeh 1 Gsm tower ha jise technical words me SITE kehte haan


Friends only 1 site yani ke ak GSM tower sirf ak din me kam se kam 2 lacs ka busines karta ha crying_anim.gif
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