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waqa'i khawateen iss din kya karaiN??? ya unhaiN kiya kerna chahiye.. iss din key gharz.o.ghaiyaat kiya hay.. dosray mulkooN maiN seminaar kay illawa iss din kiya hota hay???
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 7 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]2247362[/snapback]
waqa'i khawateen iss din kya karaiN???
Sahi kaha kay Ziada Khawateen (House Wives) ko to maloom hi nahi is Din kay baray main, Balkay Un kay liye to Chutti ka din Aam dain say ziada masroof hota hay, Aur ham aisay ghar jatay hain jaisay sara din Hall Joot kar aaye hoon aur Ghar jatay hi Kabhi Kapray press nahi, kabhi Khany main Namak ka keh kar daant Dapat kar kay Apni Mardangi dikhatay hain
Pehlay soocha kay is Topic ko FG main hona chahiye lakin baad main khayal aaya wahan Females say ziada to Males rehtay hain
QUOTE(Abdullah @ Mar 7 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]2247376[/snapback]
Sahi kaha kay Ziada Khawateen (House Wives) ko to maloom hi nahi is Din kay baray main, Balkay Un kay liye to Chutti ka din Aam dain say ziada masroof hota hay, Aur ham aisay ghar jatay hain jaisay sara din Hall Joot kar aaye hoon aur Ghar jatay hi Kabhi Kapray press nahi, kabhi Khany main Namak ka keh kar daant Dapat kar kay Apni Mardangi dikhatay hain
Pehlay soocha kay is Topic ko FG main hona chahiye lakin baad main khayal aaya wahan Females say ziada to Males rehtay hain
Pehlay soocha kay is Topic ko FG main hona chahiye lakin baad main khayal aaya wahan Females say ziada to Males rehtay hain
Go maiN nay guzishta 6/7 saaloN maiN kabhi bhi kisi per kapRay press kernay ya khanay maiN namak kam zyada honay per DanT dapT nahi key ( app ko kabhi DanTa ho tu batyaiN), per aisay "mardooN" key kami nahi ju aisa kernay maiN saroor mehsoos kertay haiN.. and yes iss kisam kay rawiya kay hamil afraad ka boy-cott kernay chahiee
maiN nay bhi pehlay yeh socha, per phir yehi socha kay khawateeN wahaaN per tu hoteeN nahi... Mard wahaaN zyada jatay nahi... ju jatay haiN un kay kaam ka yeh topic nahi..
Daikhain ji, feminisim hakoomaat ya hamaray mashray may khatray ki ghanti hay... lihaza isay jitni kaam publicity milay utna hi acha hay, nai 
QUOTE(Shokh @ Mar 8 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]2248081[/snapback]
Daikhain ji, feminisim hakoomaat ya hamaray mashray may khatray ki ghanti hay... lihaza isay jitni kaam publicity milay utna hi acha hay, nai
Feminism say app key murad?
wasey ager womens day per un aurto ko samne laya jaye jin ko mushkilat darpeesh hai jesay village main rehne wali khawateen aur is k alawah khawateen ko roz marrah k mamlat main joo masail hai un ko hall kerne per tawajha de jaye tab to sahi hai lakin yahan to womens day per modeling hoty hai aur bhi bas pata nahi kiya kiya jesay k womens day na hooo koi fahashi ka din hoooo
QUOTE(sohani @ Mar 10 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]2249513[/snapback]
wasey ager womens day per un aurto ko samne laya jaye jin ko mushkilat darpeesh hai jesay village main rehne wali khawateen aur is k alawah khawateen ko roz marrah k mamlat main joo masail hai un ko hall kerne per tawajha de jaye tab to sahi hai lakin yahan to womens day per modeling hoty hai aur bhi bas pata nahi kiya kiya jesay k womens day na hooo koi fahashi ka din hoooo
waisay women key day-to-day masa'il kiya haiN?
QUOTE(Shokh @ Mar 8 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]2248081[/snapback]
Daikhain ji, feminisim hakoomaat ya hamaray mashray may khatray ki ghanti hay... lihaza isay jitni kaam publicity milay utna hi acha hay, nai
Women who fight for there rights; don't believe in limitations.
QUOTE(Shokh @ Mar 10 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]2249582[/snapback]
Women who fight for there rights; don't believe in limitations.
Can u Define the limitations?
and women rights?
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 10 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]2249591[/snapback]
Can u Define the limitations?
and women rights?
and women rights?
It's quite a lenghty but to make the long story short:
1. Limitations can be defined as independence.
2. Rights can be defined as fight against discrimination.
Main bhi 9th March kay newspapers dekh kar soch raha tha is maslay ko HC per Discuss karon, per samjh nahi aya kay topic start kahan say kia jaye.
Newspapers dekh kar tu asa lagta tha kay yeah day sirf Hamari Elite class ki walk kay liye hota hay. or masail say do-char khawateen kay sath apni pictures bana kar logon ki hamdardiyain hasil ki jati hain or apni NGO ka name roshan kia jata hay.
is kay ilawa tu mujhy koi bhi khass maqsad mujhy nazar nahi aya is day ka or kay ilawa bhi kaye saray Days ka, bas Valentines day hi bharpoor taraqe say manaya jata hay or us kay Nataij bhi poray poray hasil kiye jatay hain.
Newspapers dekh kar tu asa lagta tha kay yeah day sirf Hamari Elite class ki walk kay liye hota hay. or masail say do-char khawateen kay sath apni pictures bana kar logon ki hamdardiyain hasil ki jati hain or apni NGO ka name roshan kia jata hay.
is kay ilawa tu mujhy koi bhi khass maqsad mujhy nazar nahi aya is day ka or kay ilawa bhi kaye saray Days ka, bas Valentines day hi bharpoor taraqe say manaya jata hay or us kay Nataij bhi poray poray hasil kiye jatay hain.
QUOTE(Shokh @ Mar 10 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]2249625[/snapback]
It's quite a lenghty but to make the long story short:
1. Limitations can be defined as independence.
2. Rights can be defined as fight against discrimination.
1. Limitations can be defined as independence.
2. Rights can be defined as fight against discrimination.
QUOTE(Shokh @ Mar 10 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]2249625[/snapback]
It's quite a lenghty but to make the long story short:
1. Limitations can be defined as independence.
2. Rights can be defined as fight against discrimination.
1. Limitations can be defined as independence.
2. Rights can be defined as fight against discrimination.
1) Independence??? again Independence of what and from what!!!!
her ma'shra aur mazhab kuch na kuch hadood aur qayood muta'in kerta hay, yeh hadood kisi bhi fard key azaadi salb kernay kay liya hotay balkay ijtay'ma'ee tor per kisi bhi mashray kay baqa aur istehkaam kay liya waza kiya jatay haiN.
aurat ko gher ka task diya gaya hay, jisay aaj key duniya aur economy yeh qabool kernay say inkaari hay aur ussay gher say bahir nikalnay per ba'zid hay...issi cheez nay aaj key aurat ko mazeed ghulam bana diya hay.. pehlay uss per sirf eak so-called Hakim tha, ab daftri bosses key surat maiN kayee haiN... pehlay uss key awal.o.aakhir zimaydari amoor-e-khana dari thay, ab additional zimadariyaaN bhi haiN yani ab ussay bhi mardooN kay shana'ba'shana kaam kerna paRta hay and at the same time gher bhi manage kerna paRta hay...
hamara aaj ka adab aur falsafa aisi aurat ko azaad aur khud mukhtaar kehta hay.. jisay gher'dari kay saath saath gher chalanay kay liya wasa'yel bhi muhiya kernay paRtay haiN... na'janay kyoN aurat shayad issay hi INDEPENDENCE samajh ker khush hotee rehtee hay.. jab kay otherwise So called Slavery maiN ussay 50% kaam kerna paRta hay aur yet she rules...
ab agr Independent aurtooN kay falsafay ko mard bhi apna'na shoroo ker daiN yni jiss taraah mard ko gher ka kafeel banaya gaya hay... kiya kabhi kisi mard ko yeh kehtay suna hay kay meri Income key X % meray gher maiN muqeem logooN per kharch hotee hay west maiN this can be the case per east maiN mujhay zati tor per iss ka ilm nahi, agr hay bhi tu shayad buhat kam...
2) Discrimination>>>
agr tu yeh laRki key taleem/khurak aur issi taraah key bunyadi haqooq kay silsilay maiN tu kernay walay intay'ha'i ahmaq aur gadhay haiN... i agree to this point
QUOTE(KHAL NAYAK @ Mar 10 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]2249638[/snapback]
Main bhi 9th March kay newspapers dekh kar soch raha tha is maslay ko HC per Discuss karon, per samjh nahi aya kay topic start kahan say kia jaye.
Newspapers dekh kar tu asa lagta tha kay yeah day sirf Hamari Elite class ki walk kay liye hota hay. or masail say do-char khawateen kay sath apni pictures bana kar logon ki hamdardiyain hasil ki jati hain or apni NGO ka name roshan kia jata hay.
is kay ilawa tu mujhy koi bhi khass maqsad mujhy nazar nahi aya is day ka or kay ilawa bhi kaye saray Days ka, bas Valentines day hi bharpoor taraqe say manaya jata hay or us kay Nataij bhi poray poray hasil kiye jatay hain.
Newspapers dekh kar tu asa lagta tha kay yeah day sirf Hamari Elite class ki walk kay liye hota hay. or masail say do-char khawateen kay sath apni pictures bana kar logon ki hamdardiyain hasil ki jati hain or apni NGO ka name roshan kia jata hay.
is kay ilawa tu mujhy koi bhi khass maqsad mujhy nazar nahi aya is day ka or kay ilawa bhi kaye saray Days ka, bas Valentines day hi bharpoor taraqe say manaya jata hay or us kay Nataij bhi poray poray hasil kiye jatay hain.
well yehi tu bunyadi mukta hay...
1) AurtooN kay haqooq kiya haiN>>> meray khayal aur ilm kay mutabiq na aurat ka koy haq hota hay aur na hi mard ka.. haqooq rishtooN ko hasil hotay haiN aur iss silsilay maiN discrimination kernay wala ya tu ahmaq hota hay ya phir jahil...
2) iss din kay mananay ka maqsad kiya hay.. siwa'e iss kay kay PARTY aur SEMINAR aur namood.o.numaish ka eak aur moqa haath lag gaya..
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 10 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]2249704[/snapback]
well yehi tu bunyadi mukta hay...
1) AurtooN kay haqooq kiya haiN>>> meray khayal aur ilm kay mutabiq na aurat ka koy haq hota hay aur na hi mard ka.. haqooq rishtooN ko hasil hotay haiN aur iss silsilay maiN discrimination kernay wala ya tu ahmaq hota hay ya phir jahil...
2) iss din kay mananay ka maqsad kiya hay.. siwa'e iss kay kay PARTY aur SEMINAR aur namood.o.numaish ka eak aur moqa haath lag gaya..
1) AurtooN kay haqooq kiya haiN>>> meray khayal aur ilm kay mutabiq na aurat ka koy haq hota hay aur na hi mard ka.. haqooq rishtooN ko hasil hotay haiN aur iss silsilay maiN discrimination kernay wala ya tu ahmaq hota hay ya phir jahil...
2) iss din kay mananay ka maqsad kiya hay.. siwa'e iss kay kay PARTY aur SEMINAR aur namood.o.numaish ka eak aur moqa haath lag gaya..
Orat ki jaiz khuwahishat ko pora kia jaye. is main tamam cheezain aa jati hain. kahany peenay say lay kar har cheez magar shart hay woh tamam cheezain Jaiz hon.
is din kay mananay ka maqsad USA sarkar ko kush karna hay or apni jaibain bharna hay. baqi koi khass maqsad mujhy ibhi tak nazar nahi aya. agar kisi or ko nazar ata hay tu please meray bhi ilm main izafa karay.
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 10 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]2249514[/snapback]
waisay women key day-to-day masa'il kiya haiN?
wasey to boht se masle hai lakin ager main app ko apni nazar se sab se aham masla batao to woh yeh hai k main jab gher se nikalti hoo coching jane k liya to bus ka intezar kerne k liya mujhay road per khara rehna perata hai aur akser cars aa ker rukti hai ya larke bike laa ker rok detay hai k aye hum app ko chor de aur pata nahi kiya kiya to bilkul acha nahi lagta yani ab to humain perhne likhne k bhi azadi nahi
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 10 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]2249701[/snapback]
1) Independence??? again Independence of what and from what!!!!
her ma'shra aur mazhab kuch na kuch hadood aur qayood muta'in kerta hay, yeh hadood kisi bhi fard key azaadi salb kernay kay liya hotay balkay ijtay'ma'ee tor per kisi bhi mashray kay baqa aur istehkaam kay liya waza kiya jatay haiN.
aurat ko gher ka task diya gaya hay, jisay aaj key duniya aur economy yeh qabool kernay say inkaari hay aur ussay gher say bahir nikalnay per ba'zid hay...issi cheez nay aaj key aurat ko mazeed ghulam bana diya hay.. pehlay uss per sirf eak so-called Hakim tha, ab daftri bosses key surat maiN kayee haiN... pehlay uss key awal.o.aakhir zimaydari amoor-e-khana dari thay, ab additional zimadariyaaN bhi haiN yani ab ussay bhi mardooN kay shana'ba'shana kaam kerna paRta hay and at the same time gher bhi manage kerna paRta hay...
hamara aaj ka adab aur falsafa aisi aurat ko azaad aur khud mukhtaar kehta hay.. jisay gher'dari kay saath saath gher chalanay kay liya wasa'yel bhi muhiya kernay paRtay haiN... na'janay kyoN aurat shayad issay hi INDEPENDENCE samajh ker khush hotee rehtee hay.. jab kay otherwise So called Slavery maiN ussay 50% kaam kerna paRta hay aur yet she rules...
ab agr Independent aurtooN kay falsafay ko mard bhi apna'na shoroo ker daiN yni jiss taraah mard ko gher ka kafeel banaya gaya hay... kiya kabhi kisi mard ko yeh kehtay suna hay kay meri Income key X % meray gher maiN muqeem logooN per kharch hotee hay west maiN this can be the case per east maiN mujhay zati tor per iss ka ilm nahi, agr hay bhi tu shayad buhat kam...
2) Discrimination>>>
agr tu yeh laRki key taleem/khurak aur issi taraah key bunyadi haqooq kay silsilay maiN tu kernay walay intay'ha'i ahmaq aur gadhay haiN... i agree to this point
her ma'shra aur mazhab kuch na kuch hadood aur qayood muta'in kerta hay, yeh hadood kisi bhi fard key azaadi salb kernay kay liya hotay balkay ijtay'ma'ee tor per kisi bhi mashray kay baqa aur istehkaam kay liya waza kiya jatay haiN.
aurat ko gher ka task diya gaya hay, jisay aaj key duniya aur economy yeh qabool kernay say inkaari hay aur ussay gher say bahir nikalnay per ba'zid hay...issi cheez nay aaj key aurat ko mazeed ghulam bana diya hay.. pehlay uss per sirf eak so-called Hakim tha, ab daftri bosses key surat maiN kayee haiN... pehlay uss key awal.o.aakhir zimaydari amoor-e-khana dari thay, ab additional zimadariyaaN bhi haiN yani ab ussay bhi mardooN kay shana'ba'shana kaam kerna paRta hay and at the same time gher bhi manage kerna paRta hay...
hamara aaj ka adab aur falsafa aisi aurat ko azaad aur khud mukhtaar kehta hay.. jisay gher'dari kay saath saath gher chalanay kay liya wasa'yel bhi muhiya kernay paRtay haiN... na'janay kyoN aurat shayad issay hi INDEPENDENCE samajh ker khush hotee rehtee hay.. jab kay otherwise So called Slavery maiN ussay 50% kaam kerna paRta hay aur yet she rules...
ab agr Independent aurtooN kay falsafay ko mard bhi apna'na shoroo ker daiN yni jiss taraah mard ko gher ka kafeel banaya gaya hay... kiya kabhi kisi mard ko yeh kehtay suna hay kay meri Income key X % meray gher maiN muqeem logooN per kharch hotee hay west maiN this can be the case per east maiN mujhay zati tor per iss ka ilm nahi, agr hay bhi tu shayad buhat kam...
2) Discrimination>>>
agr tu yeh laRki key taleem/khurak aur issi taraah key bunyadi haqooq kay silsilay maiN tu kernay walay intay'ha'i ahmaq aur gadhay haiN... i agree to this point
1. Do I need to say more?
Moashara aur Religion kin say banta hay? Insaano say, shaid? Aap nay yahan aurtoon ko mazeed slavery ki agahi di hay par kisi insaan ko acha bura samjhanay walay aap aur main kon hotay hain? Aik baligh insaan ki khushi kis may hay ye faislah kon lay laga? Mo'ashara ya religion? Religion may Khuda say insaan ko free will di hay, shaoor baksha hay aur iska istemaal wo kesay karta hay iska hisaab mo'ashray lay ga ya Khuda? Ma'siwaye khanadari kay kia aurat ki koi bhi contribution nahi reh gai society may?
2. Thanks
I am not a feminist, I believe in human rights.
QUOTE(sohani @ Mar 12 2007, 12:46 PM) [snapback]2250414[/snapback]
wasey to boht se masle hai lakin ager main app ko apni nazar se sab se aham masla batao to woh yeh hai k main jab gher se nikalti hoo coching jane k liya to bus ka intezar kerne k liya mujhay road per khara rehna perata hai aur akser cars aa ker rukti hai ya larke bike laa ker rok detay hai k aye hum app ko chor de aur pata nahi kiya kiya to bilkul acha nahi lagta yani ab to humain perhne likhne k bhi azadi nahi
is main women rights kahan say a gaye?
QUOTE(sohani @ Mar 12 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]2250414[/snapback]
wasey to boht se masle hai lakin ager main app ko apni nazar se sab se aham masla batao to woh yeh hai k main jab gher se nikalti hoo coching jane k liya to bus ka intezar kerne k liya mujhay road per khara rehna perata hai aur akser cars aa ker rukti hai ya larke bike laa ker rok detay hai k aye hum app ko chor de aur pata nahi kiya kiya to bilkul acha nahi lagta yani ab to humain perhne likhne k bhi azadi nahi
well yeh eak khaternaak rujhaan hay aur iss ka zimadar mashra hay! jab koy Car ya Bike per aisi harkat kerta hay tu saath kha|ray log khamoshi say tamasha daikhtay haiN yeh nahi sochtay kay kal ko yehi kaam un key behn/beti kay saath bhi ho sakta hay. aur ju yehsab ker rahay hotay haiN BELIVE ME OR NOT un key IZZAT bhi kaheN kisi jagaah koRiyooN kay bha'o ja rahee hoti hay...
aisay kernay walay key zehniyat yehi hote hay kay yeh nahi hotee hay yeh laRki hay.. yeh log sirf kamzoor logooN ko dabanay ya dhamkanay maiN maharat rakhtay haiN... and there is one another side of the coin, kuch laRkiyaaN aisi bhi hoteeN haiN ju waqayee issi niyat say bus-stop waghera per khaRi hoteeN haiN...
app nay suna hoga kay eak machli puray talaab ko ganda kerti hay.. so issi maiN nay iss reply kay shoroo maiN likha tha kay yeh khawateen ka masla kam aur mashray ka masla hay..
QUOTE(Shokh @ Mar 12 2007, 02:29 PM) [snapback]2250618[/snapback]
1. Do I need to say more?
Moashara aur Religion kin say banta hay? Insaano say, shaid? Aap nay yahan aurtoon ko mazeed slavery ki agahi di hay par kisi insaan ko acha bura samjhanay walay aap aur main kon hotay hain? Aik baligh insaan ki khushi kis may hay ye faislah kon lay laga? Mo'ashara ya religion? Religion may Khuda say insaan ko free will di hay, shaoor baksha hay aur iska istemaal wo kesay karta hay iska hisaab mo'ashray lay ga ya Khuda? Ma'siwaye khanadari kay kia aurat ki koi bhi contribution nahi reh gai society may?
2. Thanks
I am not a feminist, I believe in human rights.
Moashara aur Religion kin say banta hay? Insaano say, shaid? Aap nay yahan aurtoon ko mazeed slavery ki agahi di hay par kisi insaan ko acha bura samjhanay walay aap aur main kon hotay hain? Aik baligh insaan ki khushi kis may hay ye faislah kon lay laga? Mo'ashara ya religion? Religion may Khuda say insaan ko free will di hay, shaoor baksha hay aur iska istemaal wo kesay karta hay iska hisaab mo'ashray lay ga ya Khuda? Ma'siwaye khanadari kay kia aurat ki koi bhi contribution nahi reh gai society may?
2. Thanks
I am not a feminist, I believe in human rights.
1) I agree, kay Religion(s) insaan ko freewill daytay haiN, per at the same time yehi reliigions insaan per kuch pandandiyaaN bhi ayed kertay haiN..e.g. agr maiN oonchi awaz maiN music sunna pasand kerta hooN ya iss maiN khushi mehsoos kerta hooN .. per meri iss khushi say meray paRosi disturb hotay haiN tu app batayaiN kay kiya yeh KHUSHI ja'iz hay...
yehi asool baqiyooN per bhi apply hota hay... women have right but she have duties as well... the case is we have extremists on both sides, eak side WOMEN RIGHTS ka nara lagatee hay tu dosri side sirf WOMEN DUTIES ka naray per aRi hay...
jis baat ko app nay highlight kiya hay ussay phir say paRhaiN.. maiN say SO CALLED bhi likah hay....
QUOTE(sohani @ Mar 12 2007, 12:46 PM) [snapback]2250414[/snapback]
wasey to boht se masle hai lakin ager main app ko apni nazar se sab se aham masla batao to woh yeh hai k main jab gher se nikalti hoo coching jane k liya to bus ka intezar kerne k liya mujhay road per khara rehna perata hai aur akser cars aa ker rukti hai ya larke bike laa ker rok detay hai k aye hum app ko chor de aur pata nahi kiya kiya to bilkul acha nahi lagta yani ab to humain perhne likhne k bhi azadi nahi
tumhare paas 3 options hain idhar.(not the absolute ones, just careful ones)
1- Stop wearing stretchable dresses.
2- If you can't, then stop standing on bus-stops after wearing stretchable dresses.
3- If you must have to wear stretchable dress and have to wait for bus at bus'stop then wear a large thing called 'Chaadar' when leaving from house and keep wearing it until you reach your destination (office, college etc.)
P.S.
chaadar kaise orhtay hain, is ka tareeqa kisi bhi elder bazrug khatoon (like ur naani, daadi) say poocha ja sakta hai.
excuse me main iskarf lete hoo aur gaon bhi tab bhi yeh hall hai logo ka basically ab yaha koi mehfoz nahi aur nani dadi se pochne k koi zarorat nahi hai mujhay khud pata hai k mujhay khud ko kis terha dhakna hai ok
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 13 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]2251360[/snapback]
well yeh eak khaternaak rujhaan hay aur iss ka zimadar mashra hay! jab koy Car ya Bike per aisi harkat kerta hay tu saath kha|ray log khamoshi say tamasha daikhtay haiN yeh nahi sochtay kay kal ko yehi kaam un key behn/beti kay saath bhi ho sakta hay. aur ju yehsab ker rahay hotay haiN BELIVE ME OR NOT un key IZZAT bhi kaheN kisi jagaah koRiyooN kay bha'o ja rahee hoti hay...
aisay kernay walay key zehniyat yehi hote hay kay yeh nahi hotee hay yeh laRki hay.. yeh log sirf kamzoor logooN ko dabanay ya dhamkanay maiN maharat rakhtay haiN... and there is one another side of the coin, kuch laRkiyaaN aisi bhi hoteeN haiN ju waqayee issi niyat say bus-stop waghera per khaRi hoteeN haiN...
app nay suna hoga kay eak machli puray talaab ko ganda kerti hay.. so issi maiN nay iss reply kay shoroo maiN likha tha kay yeh khawateen ka masla kam aur mashray ka masla hay..
aisay kernay walay key zehniyat yehi hote hay kay yeh nahi hotee hay yeh laRki hay.. yeh log sirf kamzoor logooN ko dabanay ya dhamkanay maiN maharat rakhtay haiN... and there is one another side of the coin, kuch laRkiyaaN aisi bhi hoteeN haiN ju waqayee issi niyat say bus-stop waghera per khaRi hoteeN haiN...
app nay suna hoga kay eak machli puray talaab ko ganda kerti hay.. so issi maiN nay iss reply kay shoroo maiN likha tha kay yeh khawateen ka masla kam aur mashray ka masla hay..
app bilkul sahi keh rahe hai waqi main asi larkiya hoty hai jooo sach main asa kerty hai main ne khud dekha hai akser larkiyo ko specially coching k aur sab se bari baat yeh k chahe qasoor larke ka hoo log hamesha larki ko gandi nazro se dekhtay hai chair larka raha hai aur log larki ko ajeeb ajeeb baatein keh rahe hai chahe woh hijab main kuyn na khari hoo pata nahi yeh sab kab theek hoo ga
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 13 2007, 06:10 AM) [snapback]2251365[/snapback]
1) I agree, kay Religion(s) insaan ko freewill daytay haiN, per at the same time yehi reliigions insaan per kuch pandandiyaaN bhi ayed kertay haiN..e.g. agr maiN oonchi awaz maiN music sunna pasand kerta hooN ya iss maiN khushi mehsoos kerta hooN .. per meri iss khushi say meray paRosi disturb hotay haiN tu app batayaiN kay kiya yeh KHUSHI ja'iz hay...
yehi asool baqiyooN per bhi apply hota hay... women have right but she have duties as well... the case is we have extremists on both sides, eak side WOMEN RIGHTS ka nara lagatee hay tu dosri side sirf WOMEN DUTIES ka naray per aRi hay...
jis baat ko app nay highlight kiya hay ussay phir say paRhaiN.. maiN say SO CALLED bhi likah hay....
yehi asool baqiyooN per bhi apply hota hay... women have right but she have duties as well... the case is we have extremists on both sides, eak side WOMEN RIGHTS ka nara lagatee hay tu dosri side sirf WOMEN DUTIES ka naray per aRi hay...
jis baat ko app nay highlight kiya hay ussay phir say paRhaiN.. maiN say SO CALLED bhi likah hay....
Ji bilkul free will kay sath padandiyaan bhi hain, lakin choice phir bhi aik indiviual kay hath may hi hay kay wo zindagi kesay guzarta hay. Warna the day of judgement ka sabaab kia hay.
Zaroorat hay mutual respect ki extremist hona to bohat asaan kaam hay
QUOTE(sohani @ Mar 13 2007, 09:35 AM) [snapback]2251512[/snapback]
excuse me main iskarf lete hoo aur gaon bhi tab bhi yeh hall hai logo ka basically ab yaha koi mehfoz nahi aur nani dadi se pochne k koi zarorat nahi hai mujhay khud pata hai k mujhay khud ko kis terha dhakna hai ok
Ye aik behtreen misaal hay jis say zahir siraf sooch ki paasti hoti hay !
Esay logoon ko is say behtar jawab nahi dia ja sakta tha jo aap nay dia hay, bohat khoob behna... keep it up
QUOTE(silenteyes @ Mar 13 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]2251398[/snapback]
tumhare paas 3 options hain idhar.(not the absolute ones, just careful ones)
1- Stop wearing stretchable dresses.
2- If you can't, then stop standing on bus-stops after wearing stretchable dresses.
3- If you must have to wear stretchable dress and have to wait for bus at bus'stop then wear a large thing called 'Chaadar' when leaving from house and keep wearing it until you reach your destination (office, college etc.)
P.S.
chaadar kaise orhtay hain, is ka tareeqa kisi bhi elder bazrug khatoon (like ur naani, daadi) say poocha ja sakta hai.
1- Stop wearing stretchable dresses.
2- If you can't, then stop standing on bus-stops after wearing stretchable dresses.
3- If you must have to wear stretchable dress and have to wait for bus at bus'stop then wear a large thing called 'Chaadar' when leaving from house and keep wearing it until you reach your destination (office, college etc.)
P.S.
chaadar kaise orhtay hain, is ka tareeqa kisi bhi elder bazrug khatoon (like ur naani, daadi) say poocha ja sakta hai.
bhai jan, agr khawateen ko paRday ka hukm hay tu mard hazraat bhi iss say mubra nahi haiN... inhay bhi intentionally na'mahrim ko daikhnay say mana kiya gaya hay... i agree kay aisay dresses ju dawat-e-nazara daytay hooN qabil-e-muzamat hay, per yeh bhi sahi hay kay jin kay zehan maiN fatoor ho woh mastoor ko bhi nahi choRtay...
app agr sirf apnay app ko seedha ker laiN... yani shariyat per amal kertay howay idher udher taka jhanki band ker daiN tu yeh kaam khud'ba'khud khatam hona shoroo ho jaye ga...
per no one says iam wrong...
QUOTE(sohani @ Mar 13 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]2251512[/snapback]
excuse me main iskarf lete hoo aur gaon bhi tab bhi yeh hall hai logo ka basically ab yaha koi mehfoz nahi aur nani dadi se pochne k koi zarorat nahi hai mujhay khud pata hai k mujhay khud ko kis terha dhakna hai ok
cool down sister, things will get better once well educated people takes over... have to wait
QUOTE(sohani @ Mar 13 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]2251518[/snapback]
app bilkul sahi keh rahe hai waqi main asi larkiya hoty hai jooo sach main asa kerty hai main ne khud dekha hai akser larkiyo ko specially coching k aur sab se bari baat yeh k chahe qasoor larke ka hoo log hamesha larki ko gandi nazro se dekhtay hai chair larka raha hai aur log larki ko ajeeb ajeeb baatein keh rahe hai chahe woh hijab main kuyn na khari hoo pata nahi yeh sab kab theek hoo ga
Punjabi zuban maiN eak muhawara hay...
pani hamesha Dhalwaan key tarf hi behta hay... ( urdu tarjuma)
iss say zyada aur kiya kahooN
QUOTE(Shokh @ Mar 13 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]2251522[/snapback]
Ji bilkul free will kay sath padandiyaan bhi hain, lakin choice phir bhi aik indiviual kay hath may hi hay kay wo zindagi kesay guzarta hay. Warna the day of judgement ka sabaab kia hay.
Zaroorat hay mutual respect ki extremist hona to bohat asaan kaam hay
Zaroorat hay mutual respect ki extremist hona to bohat asaan kaam hay
Agreed
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 13 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]2251540[/snapback]
cool down sister, things will get better once well educated people takes over... have to wait
Sehi kaha khan sahib
QUOTE(Shokh @ Mar 13 2007, 01:48 PM) [snapback]2251528[/snapback]
Ye aik behtreen misaal hay jis say zahir siraf sooch ki paasti hoti hay !
Esay logoon ko is say behtar jawab nahi dia ja sakta tha jo aap nay dia hay, bohat khoob behna... keep it up
Esay logoon ko is say behtar jawab nahi dia ja sakta tha jo aap nay dia hay, bohat khoob behna... keep it up
isi baat ko karne ka aik dooja tareeqa (or acha bhi shayed)
aise question ka is say bahtar jawab nahin dia ja sakta tha jo aap nay diya hai
hva mener du om
QUOTE(silenteyes @ Mar 13 2007, 12:33 PM) [snapback]2251778[/snapback]
isi baat ko karne ka aik dooja tareeqa (or acha bhi shayed)
aise question ka is say bahtar jawab nahin dia ja sakta tha jo aap nay diya hai
hva mener du om
aise question ka is say bahtar jawab nahin dia ja sakta tha jo aap nay diya hai
hva mener du om
Jeg mener at hun sa ''mujhay khud pata hai k mujhay khud ko kis terha dhakna hai ok''
QUOTE(silenteyes @ Mar 13 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]2251778[/snapback]
isi baat ko karne ka aik dooja tareeqa (or acha bhi shayed)
aise question ka is say bahtar jawab nahin dia ja sakta tha jo aap nay diya hai
hva mener du om
aise question ka is say bahtar jawab nahin dia ja sakta tha jo aap nay diya hai
hva mener du om
Next time jab app ko kuch personal message sent kerna ho tu kindly PM facility use karaiN.. aisi zabaan jisay hazireeN -e- mehfil na'bld hooN istaymaal kerna bd'ikhlaqi kay zumray maiN aata hay...
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 13 2007, 12:41 PM) [snapback]2251791[/snapback]
Next time jab app ko kuch personal message sent kerna ho tu kindly PM facility use karaiN.. aisi zabaan jisay hazireeN -e- mehfil na'bld hooN istaymaal kerna bd'ikhlaqi kay zumray maiN aata hay...
Infact, ma pehlay bhi kah chuki hoon kay mujhay in say kisi kisam ki guftagoo may dilchaspi nahi, na on board na via pm.
Thanks Khan Amer !
hamari har achi post kisi na kisi asay reply ka shikar ho jati hay. or batt kahan ki kahan nikal jati hay.
batt silenteyes ki bhi sahi hay per batanay ka tareeka ghalat hay.
jahan tak parday ki batt hay tu khan amer is right kay jahan orut ko jism ka parda karna hay wahan mard ko bhi apni nigah pak rakhni hay. or jin logon ki hum batt kar rahay hain un kay samnay koi 7 parday bhi kar kay aye un ko wohi jumlay kasnay hain or wohi harkatain karni hain. Makafat-e-amal ka lesson jiss din woh pharhain gay us din sayad kuch behtri aye ge.
batt silenteyes ki bhi sahi hay per batanay ka tareeka ghalat hay.
jahan tak parday ki batt hay tu khan amer is right kay jahan orut ko jism ka parda karna hay wahan mard ko bhi apni nigah pak rakhni hay. or jin logon ki hum batt kar rahay hain un kay samnay koi 7 parday bhi kar kay aye un ko wohi jumlay kasnay hain or wohi harkatain karni hain. Makafat-e-amal ka lesson jiss din woh pharhain gay us din sayad kuch behtri aye ge.
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 13 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]2251791[/snapback]
Next time jab app ko kuch personal message sent kerna ho tu kindly PM facility use karaiN.. aisi zabaan jisay hazireeN -e- mehfil na'bld hooN istaymaal kerna bd'ikhlaqi kay zumray maiN aata hay...
how can you say kay yai personal message hai.... agar yai personal message hai to aisa karain kay HC par open positng khatam kar dain or har banda posting kai liye baki sab ko PM facility kay through matll'ae karay...
point # 2:
HC aik family forum hai. or family kay kisi baray nay, kisi bazurg nay agar kisi chotay ki ghalti theek karani ho to moqay par kahta hai... chup chup kar nahin kahta
QUOTE(KHAL NAYAK @ Mar 14 2007, 12:08 AM) [snapback]2252120[/snapback]
hamari har achi post kisi na kisi asay reply ka shikar ho jati hay. or batt kahan ki kahan nikal jati hay.
batt silenteyes ki bhi sahi hay per batanay ka tareeka ghalat hay.
jahan tak parday ki batt hay tu khan amer is right kay jahan orut ko jism ka parda karna hay wahan mard ko bhi apni nigah pak rakhni hay. or jin logon ki hum batt kar rahay hain un kay samnay koi 7 parday bhi kar kay aye un ko wohi jumlay kasnay hain or wohi harkatain karni hain. Makafat-e-amal ka lesson jiss din woh pharhain gay us din sayad kuch behtri aye ge.
batt silenteyes ki bhi sahi hay per batanay ka tareeka ghalat hay.
jahan tak parday ki batt hay tu khan amer is right kay jahan orut ko jism ka parda karna hay wahan mard ko bhi apni nigah pak rakhni hay. or jin logon ki hum batt kar rahay hain un kay samnay koi 7 parday bhi kar kay aye un ko wohi jumlay kasnay hain or wohi harkatain karni hain. Makafat-e-amal ka lesson jiss din woh pharhain gay us din sayad kuch behtri aye ge.
baat to teri bhi sahi hai yara...
ab kuch topic say related batai'n ho jayen... i.e. Women Day
or kiya kiya hota hai is yom'ay khwateen par ? 
QUOTE(silenteyes @ Mar 21 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]2258825[/snapback]
or kiya kiya hota hai is yom'ay khwateen par ?
yehi jan'nay kay liya tu maiN nay post key thee.. per abhi tak pata nahi chala
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 21 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]2258827[/snapback]
yehi jan'nay kay liya tu maiN nay post key thee.. per abhi tak pata nahi chala
hey man. how are you. (mujhe us arabic ki translation post karna still yaad hai....)
wesay womens day kai liye aik tajweez hai meri.... kiya hi acha ho kay is din jaga jaga cooking competitions arrange kiye jayen...
QUOTE(silenteyes @ Mar 21 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]2258833[/snapback]
hey man. how are you. (mujhe us arabic ki translation post karna still yaad hai....)
wesay womens day kai liye aik tajweez hai meri.... kiya hi acha ho kay is din jaga jaga cooking competitions arrange kiye jayen...
wesay womens day kai liye aik tajweez hai meri.... kiya hi acha ho kay is din jaga jaga cooking competitions arrange kiye jayen...
maiN nay tu kuch nahi kaha, jab bhi ho post ker daiN, ho sakta hay kay ham mazeed kuch seekh sakaiN...
mujhay un competitions maiN zaroor bulaya jaye per sirf un jaghooN per jahaaN per tajruba'kar khawateen hisa lay raheeN hooN..
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 21 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]2258929[/snapback]
mujhay un competitions maiN zaroor bulaya jaye per sirf un jaghooN per jahaaN per tajruba'kar khawateen hisa lay raheeN hooN..
agar log na'tajarba kaar khwateen ki cooking dekhne na jayen ge to un ka dil toot jaye ga na.... kiya kahte hain aap
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