Na Mein Musa Na Firouwn.. Bulleya Ki Jana Mein Kon..!!!

Puraney Sufi Shayiroun se ley ker ajj ki Modernized Society ke kisi bhi fard tak.. aik sawal hai jis ke jawab ki khoj mein insan apni sari umer guzar deta hai..

someone once said..

lets discuss a question here..

i want you all to answer me just one question and your answers will help you to know yourself through discussion with me and with each other..

the question is..

WHO ARE YOU???

maiN kuch bhi nahee aur sab kuch houN, gar dekho chashmay haqeeqat say
maiN houN 'yousuf' masjooday malaaik, garchay khaak kaa putlaa houN

WAH WAH WAH...

mein kehta houn abu adnan bhai.. aik dafa tu app ka reply perh ker mein aik dum wo kehtey hein.. jumped out of my chair.. and was tryin to think hard to find meanings and they were so much that i almost lost my mind in the horizon of this beautiful reply of yours..

ab mujhe kuch aur sawaloun ke jawab dein..

kuch bhi nahi.. aur sab kuch houn

so you think you are nothing but still everything.. but we can only know it if we see it through the sight of reality.. aur agar reality ki nazar se koi ap ko na dekhey tu phir uss ko kia nazar aye ga?

aur beshak insan khaak ka putla hi sehi.. lekin ofcourse masjoodey malaik hai.. malaikka ne jis ko sajda kia wo bhi aik khaaki insan.. aur hum sab bhi khaaki insan.. wohi organs wohi jism wohi dimagh wohi dil wohi sab kuch.. lekin rohaniyat mein martabey hein.. aur hum kis martabey pe hein.. hum nahi jantey..

lets talk realistically as well as logically

ab app reply ker ke iss post mein bura phansey hein bro :p
so replies dein aur dekhiye ga ke it would help knowing yourself or atleast it will bring forth your approach and your thinking about what a HUMAN BEING is

so.. kuch na hote howe bhi masjoodey malaik.. aur kuch hote howe bhi khaak ka aik putla?

explain kereinnn

i dont wanna know myself

well.. your answers means that you do wanna know yourself.. or that you already know yourself so much and its something you dont wanna feel.. so you are juss hiding from your own self..

if there's nothing like all this.. then WHY you dont wanna know yourself?

well.. your answers means that you do wanna know yourself..
ulta matlab kaise nikaal liya aap ne
or that you already know yourself so much
thats possible ;)
and its something you dont wanna feel..
u might Be right
so you are juss hiding from your own self..
Trying to.........

if there's nothing like all this.. then WHY you dont wanna know yourself?

aap physchatrist hain kiya ??

ulta matlab iss liye nikala ta key seedha matlab samajh mein a jaye.. so actually you wanna know yourself..
i think maybe you just know that you know youself so much but actually you dont..
i might be right..!!! lolz.. am always right
dont hide from yourself.. face it.. there is always a beautiful you in yourself that you only have to find.. once you have it.. life becomes beautiful.. trust me on that..!

am not a psychiatrist.. but you can say.. my mind works a bit more than normal people.. so i guess its something God gifted.. i can tame people.. analyze them.. and direct them towards a good understanding of self... but only if you try..
and yeah.. nothing personal in it.. just a personality analysis.. through talks.. and you will see something you are.. a better future and a better life planning

lolz.. dont worry.. I dont charge money for this.. :p

hahaha..

regards..

good topic
i come very close to know who i am ,but then it turns out it was an illusion,it hurts and i go back to square one that is, "who the heck am i"?

AOA

main banda-e-nacheez kiya keh sakta hoon apnay baray mein

arz yeh hay main aik aam si shakl-o-sorat ka, aam say IQ ka maalik aik seedha sa banda hoon......koshish karta hoon kay INSAN honay kay mayar par poora utar sakon, aur musalman kehlata hoon to koi na koi aisi baat ho mujh mein kay main musalman kehla sakoon

baqi to banda kiya cheez hay, aur agar haq ada karay to phir Kainat bhi fatah kar sakta hay

yeh to hum par hay kay hum kis had tak khud ko pehchan-tay hain......jo khud-shanas ho gaya woh KHUDA-SHANAS bhi ho jata hay

apnay mann mein doob kar pa ja suragh-e-zindagi
tu mera nahin banta na bann, apna to bann

aray bhai yeh 'maiN' nay naheeN balkay aakhri mughal baadshaah bahadur shaah zafar nay kaha hai.... yeh onka hi qaul /shair hai:

maiN kuch bhi nahee aur sab kuch houN, gar dekho chashmay haqeeqat say
maiN houN zafar masjooday malaaik, garchay khaak kaa putlaa houN

kuch kuch batein to bohat hi umda aur bey-misaal keh gayay hain Bahadur shah zafar

bohat khoobsorat shair hay

thanks

you see.. life is divided into stages.. not just the stages of your growing up.. but also the stages of your self maturity.. insan mature tab hota hai jab wo apney app ko aur apney ird gird ko jan na aur samajhna shurooh kerta hai.. if you dont know yourself.. you are still not mature..
kabhi kabhi app try kertey hein ke app ko maloom ho sakey ke app kon hein.. then you start questioning yourself and you start developing answers of your own choice.. jo kuch app sochtey hein aur jo kuch app apney app ko dekhna chahtey hein.. doosrey logoun ki nazar se ya apni nazar se.. app wohi kuch sochtey hein apney liye.. aur phir akhir mein kuch conclusions nikal leney ke baad app samajhtey ho ke BINGO!! i know myself now..
and let me tell you.. uss waqt app ko wo sab kuch illusive lagta hai!!! right..!!

kioun??

kioun ke dreams are always illusive.. fantasies and dreams are the illusive reality of our mind and thoughts.. they are never real or true until and unless real time work has been done to make them true..
and coz you are leaded to knowing yourself through illusive dreams and influencial ideas and views of your own self and people.. so at last you end up with nothing and illusions only.. just like you said.. back to square one and down the drain goes the nest your mind nested about yourself..

who the heck are you! thats not the right approach.. instead.. try this..

only I know who I am.. and no one else knows about it.. not even my thoughts and my dreams or my fantasies can define me.. its only ME ( your mind and your logic and your habits and your existence and your actions and your doings and your beliefs and your culture and your religion) who can define MYSELF..

try this.. and tell me what have you seen and if you reached somewhere?

kiya kehney app ke kashif bhai.. buhat khoob kaha hai app ne.. jo khud shanas ho gaya wo KHUDA SHANAS ho gaya..

ye jo shair app ne likha hai.. apne mann mein doob ker....... iss ki haqeeqat yehi hai ke apney app ko pehchan ley.. mujhe tu pehchaan na pehchaan coz Uss ko pata hai ke apney app ko pehchaan ley ga tu mujhe bhi pehchaan jaye ga.. coz iss ki pehchaan hi meri pehchaan se hai..

kashif bhai.. shaklein aam hi hein sab ki.. kia koi shakal se khas bana hai? haan showbiz mein ho sakta hai lekin real practical life mein nahi.. shaklein tu phir bhi dhoka deti hein.. IQ se bhi insan ki pehchaan nahi hoti.. haan seedha sa banda jo app ne likha.. iss mein zahir hota hai ke app ajzi pasand hein.. infact.. seedha sadha hona aur ajiz hona aik aisi quality hai jo app ko hamesha dosroun ki nazar mein mua'tabir banati hai.. lekin ajzi iss hadd tak ke app apni nazroun mein khud ko haqeer samajhna shurooh ker dein.. wo sehi nahi.. aitedaal hona chahiye nafs aur soch mein.. insan hein tu insan hone ka haq adaa ker rehey hein.. aur haq adaa sab ne kertey rehna hai.. ab kaise kerna hai aur kis tarah se kerna hai.. buss ye decide kerney ki baat hai..

buhat hadd tak app ka jawab ye zahir kerta hai ke app khud ko jantey hein aur nai bhi jantey.. nai bhi jantey iss liye kaha ke kahein na kahein iss ajzi aur saadgi mein aik kisi cheez ki kami mehsoos ho rehee hai aur app ko khoj hai.. mein nai janta kis cheez ki.. lekin talash hai.. waise khush tu koi bhi nahi ajj kal lekin khush hone ki koshish kerna aur khushi ki khoj mein rehna.. iss se bhi insan ko buhat khushi milti hai..

app ke khayal mein insan ka apney upper kia haq hai? what rights do a human being have on himself???

kisi ki kehi hoi baat ko apni baat mein istimal kerney ka maksad sirf aik hi hota hai..
wo ye ke app bhi uss kehney wali ki baat se agree kerein aur app ke zehan mein bhi wohi kuch chal raha ho jo uss baat ka matlab ho..

yahan baat ho rehee hai about self awareness.. knowing oneself..

so.. you used this in the context of your own meanings of this little question i asked which was WHO ARE YOU.. so now you have to explain the meanings of what you wrote and why?

yahan Per Kya Hoing

sir g maiN bahadur shaah zafar ki baat say sad feesad ittefaq karta houN.

maiN khud ko aik 'insaan' samajhtay howay apni iss 'haqeeqat' say waqif houN k agar maiN nay iss dunya ki mohlat say faidah nah oThatay howay kuch naheeN kia to mahaz maaTi ka buT houNga lekin agar Allah k bataye howay raastay par chal kar kaamyaab hogayaa insha Allah to masjooday malaa'ik honay k naatay farishtouN say bhi afzal hojayouNga.

zehni aazmaish, brain cleaning n washing ....

agar 'service' darkaar ho to aap bhi hissa lay sakti haiN....

Thanks for appreciating brother

jahan tak meray alfaz ki baat hay to bhai meri murad yehi thi kay main kisi cheez mein extra-ordinary nahin bulkay aam aur simple sa insan hoon......iss ka yeh matlab nahin kay main apnay aap ko de-grade karta hoon bulkay waqai aisa hi samajhta hoon main apnay aap ko......!!.....aur jahan tak aajzi ki baat hay to bey-shak main aik gunahgar, aajiz banda hoon apnay maalik ka

khud ko keh saktay hain kay main kisi had tak janta hoon.....baqi kabhi kabhi to main apni samajh mein bhi nahin aata

Insan ka apnay uper haq.......??
soch kar batata hoon

hehe........

lagta hay FG kay matlab ka koi kaam nahin hay yahan

uncertainty about onesef is the number one killer.that's what i believe.


and your point ke "insan mature tab hota hai jab wo apney app ko aur apney ird gird ko jan na aur samajhna shurooh kerta hai" is a very very good one. i guess main life ke usi phase se guzar rahi hoon ke log samjhh mein aany lage hain ab Alhamdulillah.ya yeh keh lein ke i was naive,,ab tak


i guess,who the heck,,,, main ne isliye likha ke sometimes in realtions you think you are trying your best,but tthe table turns on you and you wonder,am i doing the right thing,is my approach right
all my effort,was it worthless etc etc
then comes the big question " who am i". is there something more or something differetn that i should do or i should have done.
lubb e lubaab yeh ke pehlay apne aap ko jaan lo.right?

am i making any sense?

brain cleaning and washing? raha saha bhi jaaye

Leein jee....... Phir to poora Pakistan Le aayen yahan ...

Service ki bari sakht Zarorat hay Hum Sab Ko

kaheen parha tha ,
mujhse meri shanakht talab kar na ay zameen
phir zaer e behess aaye ga tera jawaaz bhi

aap ne mujhe daRRRa hi diya hai...........

well (uff ur Nick, i better call u SE )
SE maine itna tu soocha hi nahi tha.. jitna aap ne mere baare meen write down ker diya hai... and i was not even taking it serious ;) But.............still Thanks alot aap ne itnaaaa analaze kya, aur seriously liya Me ke reply ko
BTW hamara Mods ka aik presentation ka silsila ho raha hai HC meen, where we got to tell [who I am.. ] Main kya hoon.. aap yehi dekh Lain,First part i wrote few things abot me

Main kya hoon....fir bataiN.. what do u think??

---P.s UR analytic mind & analysis througout the post, are V impressive

social work.. !!!

khidmat e khalaq

HOING konsi dictionary ka word hai???

hmmmmmmmmmmm..

so u think our purpose of being in this world is only to follow the path of that Allah has set forth for us.. right? in short.. app kuch specify nahi kerna chahtey so generalize way mein bata dia hai app ne ke app ka kia maksad hai.. app kon hein.. aur kioun hein iss jahan mein? right?

waise aik baat hai.. you are a wise person..!!! buhat asaani se jaan churwana chah rehey hein app mujh se.. lolz

well.. completely agreed to your view point.. but one more thing you have to answer..

have you ever tried to change yourself for something..?

i mean kuch paaney ke liye kabhi app ne apney app mein apni personality mein life mein soch mein aur kisi bhi cheez mein jo app se related ho.. uss mein change laney ki koshish ki hai?

if yes then how? and why?

lolzzz.. lets put it this way.. then maybe this will be of some interest for her and all other fems..

yahan pe ho raha hai...

mind make up, brain cleansing and moisturizing, scrub and massage of thinking and beliefs, and manicure and pedicure of your life..

all this revolving around one question.. which is obviously not related to your AGE.. but related to WHO U ARE?

so now would you like servicing??? lolz

ajzi wali baat bilkul theek se samajh mein a gayi aur apney app ko jhuka ker rakhney mein bhi buhat azmat hai.. coz phal hamesha aik jhuka howa darakht hi deta hai.. kisi had tak tu sab hi jantey hein aik doosrey ko.. lekin khud ko jan'ney ka matlab ye nahi hota ke app apna naam pata umr etc etc infact apney barey mein details jantey houn..
khud ko jan'ney ka matlab hota hai ke app apney inside se wakif houn..
apni adaat, apney reactions to certain things and situations, and your ability to take decisions, your ability to handle situations, your ability to think and counter problems and give solutions, your ability to lead the life.. ye sab kuch khud shanasi se ata hai.. confidence bhi khud shanasi se ata hai..
so uss mein app ka kehna hai ke kabhi kabhi app khud ki samajh mein nahi atey.. aisa kin conditions mein hota hai? kis waqt app apney app ka track kho baithtey hein..???

zyada mat sochiye.. jo dimagh mein a raha hai keh dein.. app ke khayal mein insan ka apney uper kia haq hai??

kaafi jaghoun pe FG FG perha mein ne.. but i always thought ke FG means Females Gossip.. lolz
now i know FG is Forever Green...

yani ke khud hi aik buhat bhara gossip..!!! lolzzz

yes you are making perfect sense.. and i got it right what you wanted to say.. actually uncertainty kabhi kabhi app ke liye achi bhi hoti hai.. coz kuch baatein aisi hoti hein jin ki certainty ya guarantee insan ko sari zindagi nahi mil sakti aur uss uncertainty ki wajah se insan certain hone ka bahana talash kerta rehta hai and life remains busy in a good way but yeah.. uncertainty of self really kills.. when you are in a situation jahan pe you want to decide something and you want to do something lekin you cant coz you dont know what you want and you dont know what to do.. in short you dont know yourself..
naive koi bhi nahi hota hai.. from birth till any age.. sirf child age mein naive hota hai.. lekin when he/she becomes aware of whats around them.. tab insan ka zehan aur soch aur ankhein khol di jati hein.. aur phir ye app ke apney upper depend kerta hai ke app kab positively react kerna shurooh kertey hein.. and when you start showing a positive reaction to this change in life.. you start becoming mature..
relationships are sensitive issues.. which really really demand maturity of thoughts from both sides.. maturity of thoughts and personality, maturity of life and its beliefs, maturity of actions and decisions, and above all.. maturity and self confidence in SELF.. thats only when you can take mature and fully responsible steps and actions and decide completely and truly..
once you know yourself.. you never regret on anything you have done coz you know thats YOU and thats what you would have done in any case.. phir app kabhi nahi sochtey ke kia sehi tha kia ghalat in the first place.. kia hona chahiye tha kia kerna tha aur kia howa hai aur kia kiya hai.. and tell you what.. its never too late.. everything can be adjusted and done in life at any stage.. realization jab a jaye insan ko tab sub kuch possible hota hai.. just analyse yourself and see what are the places and situations where this question comes to your mind.. if not a private personal issue.. than share them and maybe ill tell you how to come out of it.. you can juss talk in context of that thing through example or something.. ill get your meaning and ill try to reason it and give you solution

remember.. your reflection in the mirror is not what you are.. but what the mirror of life tells you about yourself IS what you are..

waiting for your reply.. regards..

humari society aik FLOCK RACE.. yani ke bhair chaal wali society hai..
log logoun ki dekha dekhi kaam kertey hein.. khud kabhi kisi ne sehi kaam nahi kia..

so iss naik kaam mein app apney app ko volunteer kerein..
log app ki sehatyabi dekh ker zaroor app ko follow kertey howe yahan ayein ge..

app ne jo perha wo bilkul sehi perha hai.. and to be honest with you its very true and logical..

shanakht ke talabgaar wo hein jin se app ki shanakht hai.. so ghabrana kioun jab talab kerney wala aur shanakht deney wala donoun tayar houn..

iss duniya mein har cheez ka jawaz hai.. iss duniya mein insan ke aney se ley ker iss duniya ki aik aik cheez ki takhleeq tak.. sirf Khaliq pe eeman aur yakeen hai ke jis ki shanakht hai bhi aur nahi bhi.. apney Khaliq ki shanakht insan apney aap se ker sakta hai.. coz ye Uss ki hi qudrat hai jo hum se chhalakti hai.. iss duniya ki har cheez se zahir hoti hai.. aur har cheez humari aur uss ki shanakht ki gawahi deti hai.. tu phir tu zaer e behess a gaya humari shanakht ka takaza bhi aur humari existence ka reason.. ya jawab bhi.. aur Uss ki shanakht aur existence bhi Uss ne humari zaat mein hi daal di.. aur kaha ke Explore kero aur apney app ko pehchano.. coz khud ko pehchan jao ge agar tu tum Mujhe pehchan jao ge..

thats the only reason for this post najman.. knowing self not to know self but to know Him and know everything else in life... sawal aur jawab se duur janey ki bajaye sawal kero aur sawal suno aur jawab lo aur jawab do.. thats the only way how you can go beyond your thinking and find new horizons of reasoning and thought and mind process..

regards

alright let me make you comfortable with it.. its a therapy.. take a long breath and settle down.. free your mind from all thoughts and think about extreme consequences.. and then make up your mind that the worse is nothing but death in a human beings life.. so nothing more worst than that can happen.. and that has to come to every living soul.. so whats the big deal then
open your eyes and see that you are calm and easy and tension free and fearless from everything..
now lets talk..
well.. SE se mujhe darr lagta hai.. SE (software engineering) is in what i have done majors in my engineering.. so.. ermm.. buhat perha hai aur din raat SE hi SE hota hai har waqt so pls... not SE you can call me Eyes..

well actually am not trying to write down about you coz mein najoomi tu nahi houn ke app ko app ka future bataoun ga.. but yeah am tryin to open you up to help you know who u are.. and even if you are not serious in it.. still am doing what i have to and what this post is for

i have read about you.. thats the intro.. thats something related to what you do.. a simple life passing schedules and routines and nothing new about it which is actually related to analysing you or your personality.. so that information is actually useless..

we are here to discuss the self.. inside of a person.. and how it should be brought out and how awareness about it would help us become confident and more positive and directly approachable to many life issues..

so how about you tell me.. how do you manage to deal with situations in which you get shocks?
both happiness and sadness.. you expected nothing but a morning you wake up and see that a big beautiful gift is at your bed side waiting for you to open it.. once you open it.. it says happy birthday to you.. and its from a beloved one.. on the otherhand.. you never recieve any wish from anybody which is shockingly sad.. so how do you deal with abrupt sadness and happiness???

and thanks for the appreciation

yeah one more thing.. dont worry about the silence being heard or not.. stay assured that your silence is felt and your words understood..

very nice wasi.. ofcouse thats what it is all about.. nobody knows anything..

regarding your sig.. it says.. never explain yourself to ANYONE..
coz the one that likes you dont need it..
and the one that dislikes you wont believe it..
very true..

but dont you think that there is someone else in between as well.. and he/she is the one that neither likes you not dislikes you.. a neutral person..

so how about sharing it with that person??? Baba Bulley Shah tu iss sawal ka jawab iss kalam mein likh gaye for us to understand it.. that was His opinion to it.. agar wo keh saktey hein ke..

na mein Musa na firoun.. etc etc..

then hum bhi keh saktey hein.. na mein Bulley shah na mein musa na firouun..

so you dont need to express yourself through the words of someone whose context is different from your viw points.. lekin ho sakta hai mujhe ghalti lag rehee ho..

so uss case mein.. if you thing this Kalaam expresses your views n thoughts about WHO U ARE..
then explain in what manner???
dont worry am the neutral person you can share anything with

regards and waiting for your reply

ahan...

Thanks for the detail reply.. miltey hain break ke baad

haha........

chalein ab to pata chal gaya na kay FG say muraad ForeverGreen bhi hain

will get back to you inshaAllah

thik kaha aap nay

laikin bhai main nay yeh kab kaha tha kay apnay aap ko jan-nay ka woh matlab hay

zahir hay Alhamdulillah itni to samajh hay janab

main nay iss liyay kaha tha kay main apni samajh mein nahin aata kay ba'z auqat kuch ajeeb sa zehen ho jata hay banday ka......mera khyal hay iss ki detail ka mauqa nahin hay...bas yun samajh lijyay kay un-expected reaction agar ho apna aur ba'd mein analyze kiya jayay to yeh situation samnay aati hay

banday ka haq sab say barra yehi hay kay Insan ban-nay ki koshish karay....yani insanon say muhabbat rakhay aur positive way mein aagay chalay.....apni salahiyaton say insaaf karay.......jis jaga bhi Allah us ka rizq likhay wahan imandari say kaam karay.....apnay haqooq kay baray mein ziada sochnay ki bajayay faraiz par tawaja dey....aur aik acha insan ban-nay ki koshish karay ke insan mein character paida karna hi Islam ka asal maqsad hay

Chalen jee .....Kar diya Qurbaan mein ne kHud ko


Aap Bataen Karna ky ahay jee

sure.. why not

yeah.. such a pleasent addition to the vast knowledge in my brain.. LOLZZZZ

InshAllah

ill be waiting..

tc..

very well said.. and you have made yourself clear as crystal..
wish you all the best and may Allah do keep you stick to your views and thinking about yourself and the reality inside you..

iss post ka page number 1 open kerein.. wahan pe meri pehli post mein aik chota sa sawal kia gaya hai HC ki awaam se.. apni samajh boojh ke mutabik aik adad jawab de dein..

by the way.. volunteering doesnt mean qurbani dena.. lolz..

Chalen jee Sawal Dekhne ki bhi takleef kar li mein ne

In some Aspects Voluntering does mean Qurbani cuz no 1 like to Voluntere dere selves...

n I didnt get y u mention dat or took it serious ..cuz i don think so dat i was so serious abt dat

Me to buss awen hi Majak ShaJaak Kar rahi thi

zehmat bhi ki tu poori tarah se nahi itni sari baatein ker di lekin jawaab dena tha wo dia hi nahi.. lolzz

waise they say that " Blondes are Dumb..!! "

i can prove them that blondes are not the only one dumb..

whose takin it serious ermmm.. me??

majak shajak ko side pe rakh ke ab main question ka jawab bhi de do!!

Chalen jee .......... Aap Inna Insist kar rahe ho to Jawab de hi deti hoon

Kya Bataon apne bare mein .... Mein agar Khud ko Jaan jaon to Maqsad-e-hayaat hi Poora ho jay ..... Khud ko Pa lena aur phir apni Khamiyon ko door karna hi to asal zindagi hay ....aur mein to abhi tak ye hi nahi jaan pai ke mein kon hoon , Kya hoon Aur Kyon hoon

Hana itna keh sakti hoon Khamiyan an ginat hain mujh mein agar mein apni nazar se khud ko dekhon too... Baqi kehne wale to bahot kuch kehte hain Yaqeen sirf apni mama baba ka hi karti hoon mein

i Think inna kafi hay naa

By da way ..... Suna to Hum ne bhi Hay ke Singh Hazraat dumb hote hain ... N i can say too dat dey r not da only Dumbss