I belong to Swat and just came back to France after staying one and half month in Swat. The situation there is really worst. But one cannot totally condemn the Army. Of course its the govt (Mush) policy which lead the country to such a painful situation. However, if the people of Swat were left on the mercy of those illiterate, wicked, mad, wild, stupid, panic ............ ...... and so on militants, the situation will be more than worst. They are so wild that they cut the nicks of policemen, FC, a School teacher, a WAPDA lineman and a private school peon. They consider all those as non-muslim and their enemy (and are likely be subjected to the so-called JIHAD) who are not supporting their wicked plans (even morally or verbally). Their plan is just to rule over the people, enjoy power and punishments. Once they announce on FM radio that we have the right over the wives and properties of all those who are in govt services.

The blunder of the govt is that it did not check them at the beginning and prolonged the issue for nothing. Now the operation is the single and last option. If the army quit the operation incomplete then there will be a complete domination of these militant over Swat and even they will soon spread to other parts of the country. Then we can only say " ES MULK KA TU ALLAH HEI HAFIZ HO" Amin.

Yeh tu 14 tabaq roshan kar deyne waali post hai. Mujhe yaqeen hai keh jo kuch likha gaya hai voh bilkul sahi evaluation hai. Ab fouj ko siyasat ke bajaaey iss qism ke masaail per tawajjah deyne chahiye.

ji yeah wahan ki awam ki awaz hey,,, hamarey mufad parasat leaderoon ki parhai gai patti nahin hey,,, jin ka kaam sirif apney mufad ke tahat nataij akhaz kerna aur usko propagate kerna hota hey

Very well balanced view.

Actually main b iss action k khilaaf nahin magar main iss baat k khilaaf hon k hakumat ne yahi kuch lal masjid ki dafa kia aur ab bhi, yani pehlay soye rehtay hain aur jab paani sir se guzarnay wala hota hai to hosh ata hai.
Lal masjid k wakaya k waqt bhi shuru mein hi action le liya jata aur zia ul haq k sahibzaaday ki asheerbaad se ghazi brothers ko chhoot na milti to itnay baray action ki zrurat hi na parti,

ab swat mein sirf Malakand division mein 50 se zyada FM radio stations hain jo ghair qanooni hain aur wo sub k sub taliban k hain jin par Mulla fazlullah ki taqareer aur peghaam nashar hotay rehtay hain, Kya hakumat soi hui thi ?? Swat ki soorat e haal qabaaili eelaqon jesi na thi k agencies wahan kuch na kar sakti thi, ye to aam pakistaniyun ki guzargah thi, yahan sub kuch hakumat ki naak k neechay hota raha , iss mein na sirf federal govt ki kotaahi hai balkeh MMA ki provincial govt. ki bhi kotahi shamil hai.

Wesay ab swat maslay ka hal operation cleanup k siva kuch nazar nahi aata, aur nazar aaye bhi to hona to operation hi hai, lets see what happens.

Bilkul yehi hona bhi chahiye aur iss tarah keh jo loog gar.bar kar rahe haiN unke saath kisi qism ki riaayat na ki jaaey. MMA record per hai keh fouj waapas bulwa lo aman ki zamanat hum deyte haiN. Ab inko bhi jootay lagne chahiyaiN.

CIA projects grim future for Pakistan
February 14, 2005: A new CIA report predicts that Pakistan may well come apart in the next decade. Corruption and poor government are making Islamic radicalism more popular, especially in the Pushtun (northwest) and Baluchi (southwest) tribal areas. Most of the population is not tribal. In fact, about have the population is in one province, Punjab. When India and Pakistan were formed in 1947, Punjab was split, with about 70 percent of it going to Pakistan. The Indian portion, with better government and less corruption, has done more than twice as well as the Pakistani part (on a per-capita basis). India also has problems with tribal separatists (in the northeast), but in Pakistan the tribes comprise a larger portion of the population (at least ten percent.) It's expensive to fight the tribes, and the Baluchis are eager to take control of the lucrative natural gas fields operating in Baluchistan. The CIA report sees the country coming apart along ethnic lines, much like Yugoslavia did in the 1990s. This would create a Punjabi state, with at least half the population, plus Pushtun and Baluchi states, plus one or two more. The big question is what would happen to Pakistan's nuclear weapons. The Pakistanis dismiss the report, pointing out that, while they created the mess, they've also learned to deal with it

Muje wese ek baat ki samajh nahi aati, lal masjid ka masla ho, wazirstan ka ya swat ka , har baar kaha jata hai k iss mein USA ya CIA involve hai, sawaal ye hai k hamesha "mazhabi" ya doosray lafzon mein "jehadi" hi CIA waalon k jaal mein kyun phanstay hain???

1979. One of the American intelligence community's biggest operations and initially considered a major success was the funding of the Mujahedeen (Islamist fighters) in Afghanistan and their training, arming, and supplying. The program was initiated under Carter and greatly expanded following the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan in December 1979. Under Reagan funding reached levels of $600 million/year. It has been alleged that part of the Mujahedeen trained by the CIA later became the core cadre of Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda Islamist organization[a charge denied by American and Pakistan intelligence officials and journalist Peter Bergen. Zbigniew Brzezinski, the National Security Advisor under President Carter, has discussed U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan in several magazines.

cia / usa ka asal game yeh hai k shomaali elaqah jaat maiN pak army ko uljha kar iss qadar kamzore /demoralize kardia jaye k woh pakistan k atomic asaasay apnay control maiN rakhnay ki salahiyat hi say mahroom hojaye. aur afghan borders par maujood ittehadi forces pakistan k atomic asaasay ko take-over karlay....


baqi saari bataiN, operation, jehaad etc sab kahaniyaaN haiN. asal 'game' say qabal ki 'warm up practices' .... iss 'saazish' maiN gen mush n co directly involve /shareek haiN jabkay shomali elaqah jaat maiN anti mush movement indirectly .... dounouN k tasadum maiN fatah kissi bhi fareeq ko haasil ho. usa ko matloobah goal hasil hojayega.... yehi wajah hai k usa directly mush govt ko support kar rahi hai asleha au maal day kar inn millitants say laRnay maiN jabkay cia indirectly in millitants ko asleha / dollars day rahi hai .... pichlay dinouN sawaat maiN operation start hotay hi millitants nay jehaad k liyeh 'awaam' say maali madad k liyeh camp qaim kia to camp maiN mauhood chaarpayee /manjee par foreign currencies ki bhatr maar hogayee.... kia wahaaN k awaam etnay ameer haiN k chand ghanTouN maiN chaarpayee bhar foreign currencies say millitants ki madad karsakaiN... iss chaarpayee ki pics taqreeban saray hi press nay publish ki thee.

The absolute view MJB
A very bold view Abu Adnan Bhai

Lekin sab say zyada mo'assar baat DayLight ki hai k "Jab paani sar say guzar jaata hai...." aor yehi wajhay Pakistan ko aisee mushkilaat say dochar rakhti hai. Choti say choti sarkaari kursi say lay kar bari say bari sarkaari kursi tak yeh sab wajuhaat wazeh honay k bawajood bhi koii bhi karwaee fori amal mein nahi laaee jaati. Phir choti choti sarkaari kursiyon say shuroo hota hua masla "bridge k tuutnay ki shakal" mein roonuma hota hai aor bari kursiyon par 'BB Corruption, LAAL MASJID, SAWAAT , etc ki shakal mein saamnay aata hai.

Army ko koii bura bhala nahi kehta lekin is waqt army ko rule karnay Waala ghalat hai. Apni ghalat policies say woh mulk ko barbaadi ki taraf lay Jaa raha hai. Aaj is Army ki tawajja mulk ki security ki taraf nahi hai. Mulk ki siyaasat ki taraf hai, mulk ko khaanay ki taraf hai. Ek Darr yeh bhi rehta hai k "ALLAH NA KARAY" kisi dushman (India/Israil) nay is waqt agar apnay naPaak iraadon ko amli shakal day di to shayad humaari army muqabla na kar paaey. Atomic weapons say zyada powerful to army k Jazbaat aor iraaday hotay hain. Lekin ab yeh iraday, jazbaat aor woh josh PAKISTAN mein istemaal ho rahay hain.

WAZIRASTAAN, LAAL MASJID aor SAWAT jaisee soorat-e-haal say woh log (talibaan/militants) mazeed munazzam hotay hain ya honay ki koshish mein rehtay hain. aor yeh baat bhi shak say khaali nahi k LAAL MASJID k woh muhafiz aor students bhi (jin k bhai behnain us waqaey mein shaheed hua ya maaray gaey) is SAWAT jung mein shamil hain. Govt. to wahan k FM band karwa nahi saki aaj tak. ghar ghar mein un k leader k payghamaat pohnchtay hain aor jab tak Govt. action mein aati hai to 'paani sar say guzar chuka hota hai' yaani us waqt tak har shakhs hi unka (us commandar ka) tarafDaar ho chuka hota hai...

pata nahi kab khatam hon gay yeh sab Dramay Pakistan ki screen say..........

uski wajah yeah ho sakti hey ke USA/CIA ko lambi chori hiring nahin karni parti,,,, 1-2 churb-zuban,,, shola-biyan qisim ke darhi waley paker lo,,,, chahye pahley unki darhi rahi ho ya na rahi ho,,, wo 1 taqreer USA ki islam dushmani main karain gey,,, aur unko hazaroon sarfarossh janaat ki tamana liye bewaqoof mil jain gey

agar iss main waqai USA/CIA ka hath hey tu...........

Jabbar Bhai,,, hamari qoum ki 1 adat hey,,, tanqeed kerney ki,,, aur tanqeed wo kerta hey jo hakoomat se bahir ho,,,, aur wo hakomat ke har kaam ki sochey samjhey baghir tanqeed hi kerta hey aur kuch nahin,,, main yeah baat Musharraf ki govt ke hawaley se nahin,,, balkey as a general trend ekr raha hoon,,, jab bhi jo bhi govt hoti hey,,, tu oppostion waley har kaam main tanqeed kertey hain,,, chahye wo mulki salmiat ka masla ho ya mulk ki izzat ke,,,, lekin apney mufad ki khatir wo kuch nahin daikhtey

MJB bhai, mgar ye responsibility to govt ki hy na k wo aisi chezon ko shuru se hi bund karay, akhir khufia agencies opposition aur judges k peechay hi kyun pari rehti hyn, wo apna asal kaam to theek se krein.

bilkul,,, iss se main ne kab inkar kya hey,,, ke yeah inki na-ahlee nahin,,,, main as a gereral baat ki thi,,, apney opposition key characeter ki

MJB BROTHER!
Chodah tabak tou mere bhe roshan ho gaey aap ki iss post ko parh kar k I am sorry to say that hum laug I think Allah aur Rasool ki baat per itni jaldi yaqeen nahin kertay jitna jaldi aik so called Pakistani jis ne France se PHD ki degree haasil ki ho ki harzah sarai per jinhein Islam aur uss ki sazaein intahai farsoodah aur vehshat naak lagti hain aur iss baaray mein sab ka nazriya aik he hai chahe woh Brithish educated Benazir ho ya French PHD holder ya koi American Scholar. Khair iss per mein zayadah behas nahin kerna chahta k CA mein jo baat aap ki tabiyat per graan guzre woh aap ki naafaz kerdah mukhtalif daafat ki zad mein aa jaati hai halaan k democracy ka taqazah hai k yahan per har tabqa-e fikar ki baat sunne aur bardaasht kerne ka hoslah hona chahiye, filhaal mein siraf do adad guzarshaat paish kerna chahta hoon;

01. Goli kisi bhe maslah ka solution nahin hoti, jab goli chalti hai tou anjaam siwae Banglah Desh ban'ne k aur kuch nahin hota aur phir chahe woh Sri Lanka ho ya India, Russia ho ya Afghanistan, Iraq ho ya Pakistan aik kabhi na khatam hone waali war shroo ho jaati hai. Aap kia samjhtay hain k Akbar Bugti k qatal se Baluchistan ka maslah hul ho gaya? ya Ghazi Abdur Rashid k khoon se Lal Masjid aur madrasoon ki kahani khatam ho gai? Janab! yeh Dictator tou 2/4 saal mein Mar khup jaatay hain aur inn ki all aulad America ya England ki rah leti hai lekin is k results poori qaum ko sadiyun tak bhugatnay parhtay hain.

02. Janab! agar aap personaly kisi k against hain tou jo ussay jo marzi kahein, bura bhala kahein, gaali dein aur baat hud se barh jae tou chahe goli maar dein lekin please please Daarri (beard) waloon k khilaf in general baat na kerein k uss se kisi aur ki toheen tou baad mein hoti ho gi lekin sab se pehle unn aik laakh chobees hazar Nabiyun ki toheen hoti hai jo sub k sub baaraish thay, Meinne pehle tou iss baat ko ignore kar diya tha lekin agar aap apne section ki baaki posts bhe parhein tou aap ko feel ho ga k kaafi laug yuk zuban ho kar iss guztakhi ko fakhariya andaz mein paish kar rahe hain.

I hope that you will consider my 2nd request especialy and take necessary measures to eradicate this practice from CA section, thanks.

Hakumat thik ker rahi hey ya galat is ka faisala to wakt hud ker dey ga

per itna zaroor pata hey wahan jehaad nahi ho raha hey donon terf sey nahi ho raha hey jang hud gerziiiii or apni ana ki hey jis islam ka or raiyasat ki rat kaim kerney ka libadah oraya ja raha hey

bat ap ki bhi kafi had tak thik hey or kabil-e-gor bhi

per Lal Masjid key mamaley mein asal Qasoor War kon tha ?