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saima56
Assalam-O-Alikum,

waisa to bhut si cheezain hootin hain jiss per mai shikayat aam toor per nahi karti, magar aik cheez jo pichala dino sa hoo rahi hai joo mujhe kudh shamjh nahi aata ka kyunn hoo rahi hai ka mujhe bila-waja target kia ja raha hain..

agar waqai kothai mere janib sa hai to moderators mujhe warning kyunn nahi da raha?

Day light shab na aik post mai farmaya ka


CODE
Yahan Hulchul par guzishta kuch din se doosron ko Kafir qaraar denay waalon (jin mein saima56 bhi pesh pesh thi)


http://www.hulchul.net/HC/index.php?showtopic=162843

yani mai koi kuffir karar daina ki muhim chala rahi hoon aur uss mai leading role ada kar rahi hoon aur admin khamoosh bhaitha hain, Yaqeenan is silsala mai bhut si post bhi ki hoongi..jab ka pichal dino mai sirf aik Qurabani ka hawala sa aik post mai ne ki hai,

http://www.hulchul.net/HC/index.php?showtopic=159685

iss ka illawa koi topic mai ne shuru nahi kia pichla 20 30 din mai, agar waqai mai iss ka ilawa topics shuru kia hai aur woo forum per moujood hai too iss ki 2 hi sooratain hoosakti hai ya to admin delete kar chuka hai ya mai ne post hi nahi kia.. aur agar mai muhim chala rahi hoon too yaqeenan admin ko notice laina chaye..

doosri baat jo mujhe shamjh nahi aati woo yeh ka indirect way mai mujhe zati toor per target kyun kia jaraha hai, aap CA ka yeh topics dekhain

http://www.hulchul.net/HC/index.php?showtopic=160899

http://www.hulchul.net/HC/index.php?showtopic=161144

http://www.hulchul.net/HC/index.php?showtopic=162451

mujhe shuru mai to shamjh nahi aye magar baad mai yeh cheez demagh mai aye ka yeh mujhe IMRAN KHAN shamjh raha hai aur aap language dekhain member ki.. mai shikyaat nahi karti magar jab post kar rahi hoon to notice mai lana zaroori tha..

mujhe 2 members sa masla nahi magar mujhe har jaga bilawaja involve to na karain aur agar waqai masla mai hoon to admin should take action against me..

Allah Hafiz

Saima

Khalish
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Iss masle ka aik he hull hai keh hum baat cheet aur behas ke douran apne qalam ko qaboo meiN rakhaiN .. baat sirf aur sirf masle ke muta'aliq ho na keh poster and/or participants of the post ko zaati taur per nishaana banaya jaaey.

Lately, maiN ne Islam Section meiN yeh bhi daikha hai keh Saima Jawaab daiN, Asim Jawaab dain, Daylight jawaab daiN .. kyoN yeh loog Islam ke thaikaydaar haiN aur kitaab.o.sunnat ke qawaneen inhooN ne murattab kiye haiN? From now on, Islam Section he kya, total HC per iss qism ki jawaab talabi ki ijaazat nahi di jaaey gi aur hum fori taur per iss qism ke topics delete kar daiNge.

Yaa tu kisi ma'amle meiN behas.o.mubahisay meiN hissa he na liya jaaey jahaan yeh tawaqqa ho keh agar dalaael se baat ghalat sabit ho gaee tu phir ghusse per qaabo nahi paya jaa sake ga. Ab mujhe yahaaN behas.o.mubahisay ke manner bhi bayaan karne paraiNge? Isska asal maqsad sirf aur sirf yeh hota hai keh sahi baat saamne aa jaaey aur loog apni sooch ki isslah kar laiN .. ghalati ka aiteraaf na sahi apna qibla he durust karlaiN. JahaaN maiN na manooN wala rawayya paya jaata hai wahaan tu phir sar.phuttawal laazmi hogi aur kafir, shaitan, mulhid, aur pata nahi kya kya alqaab sunne aur sunaane ke liye available ho jaaeiNge.
saima56
QUOTE(Khalish @ Jan 17 2008, 11:14 PM) *
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Iss masle ka aik he hull hai keh hum baat cheet aur behas ke douran apne qalam ko qaboo meiN rakhaiN .. baat sirf aur sirf masle ke muta'aliq ho na keh poster and/or participants of the post ki zaati taur per nishaana banaya jaaey.

Lately, maiN ne Islam Section meiN yeh bhi daikha hai keh Saima Jawaab daiN, Asim Jawaab dain, Daylight jawaab daiN .. kyoN yeh loog Islam ke thaikaydaar haiN aur kitaab.o.sunnat ke qawaneen inhooN ne murattab kiye haiN? From now on, Islam Section he kya, total HC per iss qism ki jawaab talabi ki ijaazat nahi di jaaey gi aur hum fori taur per iss qism ke topics delete kar daiNge.

Yaa tu kisi ma'amle meiN behas.o.mubahisay meiN hissa he na liya jaaey jahaan yeh tawaqqa ho keh agar dalaael se baat ghalat sabit ho gaee tu phir ghusse per qaabo nahi paya jaa sake ga. Ab mujhe yahaaN behas.o.mubahisay ke manner bhi bayaan karne paraiNge? Isska asal maqsad sirf aur sirf yeh hota hai keh sahi baat saamne aa jaaey aur loog apni sooch ki isslah kar laiN .. ghalati ka aiteraaf na sahi apna qibla he durust karlaiN. JahaaN maiN na manooN wala rawayya paya jaata hai wahaan tu phir sar.phuttawal laazmi hogi aur kafir, shaitan, mulhid, aur pata nahi kya kya alqaab sunne aur sunaane ke liye available ho jaaeiNge.

Assalam-O-Alikum

shukria

aap ko kam-uz-kam yeh cheez zaroor dekhni chaye ka topic mai kahan kissi member ko zati toor per attack kia jaraha hai, aur iss ka lia rules hoona chayein.. infact yahan yeh bhi hoota hai ka gussa kissi per hain aur uttar kissi aur per dia, topics per behas aur muktalif nazarayaat ka hamil afraad per jirah apni jagah magar members bahami izzat zaroor karain.. CA and Islam section mai khoosasan yeh cheez implement hooni chaye.. mai iss baat ko zaroor manti hoon ka agar koi banda koi nazarya laya ga to uss nazarya ka creater per zaroor baat hoogi jaisa modudi shab, ya pervaiz ya muktalif afraad magar iss ka lia member apas mai to izzat aur aram ka saath baat kar sakta hain..

aur agar kissi ko shikyaat hai kissi member ka hawala sa to wo admin ko likhain aur admin action jaisa daylight ko mere bara mai shikayat hai, na ka khaam kahwah har post mai tana marain.. aur admin ko chaye ka in ki shikayat ka notice lain agar valid hai to

Allah hafiz
Khalish
QUOTE(saima56 @ Jan 17 2008, 09:37 PM) *
Assalam-O-Alikum

shukria

aap ko kam-uz-kam yeh cheez zaroor dekhni chaye ka topic mai kahan kissi member ko zati toor per attack kia jaraha hai, aur iss ka lia rules hoona chayein.. infact yahan yeh bhi hoota hai ka gussa kissi per hain aur uttar kissi aur per dia, topics per behas aur muktalif nazarayaat ka hamil afraad per jirah apni jagah magar members bahami izzat zaroor karain.. CA and Islam section mai khoosasan yeh cheez implement hooni chaye.. mai iss baat ko zaroor manti hoon ka agar koi banda koi nazarya laya ga to uss nazarya ka creater per zaroor baat hoogi jaisa modudi shab, ya pervaiz ya muktalif afraad magar iss ka lia member apas mai to izzat aur aram ka saath baat kar sakta hain..

aur agar kissi ko shikyaat hai kissi member ka hawala sa to wo admin ko likhain aur admin action jaisa daylight ko mere bara mai shikayat hai, na ka khaam kahwah har post mai tana marain.. aur admin ko chaye ka in ki shikayat ka notice lain agar valid hai to

Allah hafiz



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Meraa khayyal hai keh maiN aur aap aik he track per haiN aur hamaare saath HC ke aur buhot se members bhi hooNge.

Baat sirf masle per rakhi jaaey tu talkhi paida hone ke kam imkanaat hote haiN. WE MUST ENSURE THAT WE REFRAIN OURSELVES AND DISCOURAGE OTHERS TO LABEL HC MEMBERS AS: JAMATI, MUNKAR.E.HADEES, PARVAZI, RAFZI, DEOBANDI, BARAILVI, QADIYANI, SHIYA ETC. Hamaari saari concentration topic per honi chahiye aur uss masle per jo zair.e.behas hai. Kisi ki raey ko yeh keh kar radd nahi kiya jaa sakta keh isse tu chooro yeh falaaN firqay se hai aur falaan ka follower hai .. THIS IS NOT A HEALTHY SIGN AND LABEL.

Kisi ki dil.aazaari kar deyna koi masla nahi hai (iss se apna jee kuch dair ke liye khush aur dosray ka zindagi bhar ke liye dukh jaata hai) maza tu jab hai keh hum tahzeeb ke dairay meiN rehte hoay ta'meeri discussions ko, jin se hamaari sooch aur approach meiN faraq pare, faroogh daiN.

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Daylight
Agarchay main Khalish bhai se iss silsilay mein PM k through tafseeli baat pehle hi kar chuka lehaza usko yahan duhraon ga nahin, lekin kuch baatein zaroor wazeh karon ga.......

Jahan tak kisi member k naam se post title banay ka taaluk hai to it was saima "himself" who started this thing, uskay baad asim10 ne mere naam se propaganda post banayi...... mene dono baar intezar kiya k administration khud iss cheez ko rokay, lekin jab aisa nahin hua to mene bhi 2 posts 2 members k naam se kar di aur muje yakeen tha k ab admins zaroor notice lein gay........

Mujh par jhotay ilzamaat ki bochhaar, mukhtalif alqabaat se nawazna, mere khilaf jhota propaganda karna aur labelise karna jaari raha magar kisi ne iska notice nahin liya, maine bouhat wait kiya admins ka lekin kisi ne kisi ko nahin roka, main shikayat to tab karta jab muje ye yakeen hota k admins iss baat se na-ashna hain lekin main unko khud unhi posts mein dekhta to herat hoti k wo iss islam section ko akhaara kyun ban-ne de rahay hain jahan jahil maulviyun ki tarha sub ek doosray ko "muqaddas gaaliyan" de kar apnay mann ko satisfy kr rahay hain.....

It was then i posted 2 topics, and i was more than 100 % sure that some action will be taken now. Warna mene aaj tak last 5 years mein kabhi kisi member k naam se post nahin ki...........


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Yahan Hulchul par guzishta kuch din se doosron ko Kafir qaraar denay waalon (jin mein saima56 bhi pesh pesh thi)


Yes Saima, u were the one who started it then others took it from you.

CODE
yani mai koi kuffir karar daina ki muhim chala rahi hoon aur uss mai leading role ada kar rahi
agar waqai kothai mere janib sa hai to moderators mujhe warning kyunn nahi da raha?


Dont exagerate, yahan kisi leading role ki baat nahin ki gai, just mention ur name (certainly not as a leader)

Jahan tak modz ki baat hai k wo itnay arsay se kyun khamosh rahay aur iss soorat e haal ko uss waqt qabu kyun nahi kiya jab muje nishana banaya ja raha tha aur uss waqt kyun khyal aaya when i retaliated to iss mein do cheezain ho sakti hain
1- masroofiyat
2- kotaahi ya dheeeeel dena smile.gif


CODE
aap ko kam-uz-kam yeh cheez zaroor dekhni chaye ka topic mai kahan kissi member ko zati toor per attack kia jaraha hai, aur iss ka lia rules hoona chayein..


Chaaliye shukar hai meri posts ne apko ye baat to yaad dila di k "kisi member ko zaati taur par attack nahin karna chaahiye"...... you used my name in your post and i used ur name as a reaction, ab apko andaza ho jana chaahiye k aisay zaati attack se kitni takleef hoti hai.......

agar koi kisi doosray ko takleef de to usko theek karnay k 2 tareekay hain

1- araam se samjhaya jaaye
2- usko bhi wesi hi takleef di jaaye ta k usko andaza ho sakay k jab wo khud aisa karta tha to doosray ko kitni takleef hoti ho gi.......

Chalein kisi se hi samjhay smile.gif


CODE
mai iss baat ko zaroor manti hoon ka agar koi banda koi nazarya laya ga to uss nazarya ka creater per zaroor baat hoogi jaisa modudi shab, ya pervaiz ya muktalif afraad magar iss ka lia member apas mai to izzat aur aram ka saath baat kar sakta hain..


Bilku!!!! Lekin jab aap ne GA Parwez k baray mein post kartay huay ussay Choron ka Ustaad kaha to tab bahmi izzat o ehtaram kahan reh gaya tha ?? Jab aap kuffar k fatway saadir kar rahi thi tab ye bahmi izzat o ehtaram kahan chala gaya tha ??

Doosray ko hurt kartay rehne se insaan ko kabhi ehsaas nahin hota lekin khud halki c kharaash anay par shiddat ka ehsaas ho jata hai......


Haan main apni iss baat par ab bhi qaaim hon k sub loag ehtaraam aur izzat se baat karein aur wesa hi jawab paain, lekin jab aap "chalaakiyan" karein gay to phir wese hi jawab ki umeed bhi rakhni chaahiye,

Yes i still believe k meri wo dono posts, jin mein se ek ghayab kar di gai hai, "ONLY AS A PROTEST" thi, they were not meant for any constructive prupose, they were just to shake up the admins to take action against those who are spoiling the islam section by labelising others/calling names to others.
Daylight
QUOTE(Khalish @ Jan 18 2008, 03:14 AM) *
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Meraa khayyal hai keh maiN aur aap aik he track per haiN aur hamaare saath HC ke aur buhot se members bhi hooNge.

Baat sirf masle per rakhi jaaey tu talkhi paida hone ke kam imkanaat hote haiN. WE MUST ENSURE THAT WE REFRAIN OURSELVES AND DISCOURAGE OTHERS TO LABEL HC MEMBERS AS: JAMATI, MUNKAR.E.HADEES, PARVAZI, RAFZI, DEOBANDI, BARAILVI, QADIYANI, SHIYA ETC. Hamaari saari concentration topic per honi chahiye aur uss masle per jo zair.e.behas hai. Kisi ki raey ko yeh keh kar radd nahi kiya jaa sakta keh isse tu chooro yeh falaaN firqay se hai aur falaan ka follower hai .. THIS IS NOT A HEALTHY SIGN AND LABEL.

Kisi ki dil.aazaari kar deyna koi masla nahi hai (iss se apna jee kuch dair ke liye khush aur dosray ka zindagi bhar ke liye dukh jaata hai) maza tu jab hai keh hum tahzeeb ke dairay meiN rehte hoay ta'meeri discussions ko, jin se hamaari sooch aur approach meiN faraq pare, faroogh daiN.

Khush RahaiN rose.gif


This is the best way.......
Daylight
I think inhi alfaaz ko zara sa compile kar k islam section mein "READ BEFORE POSTING" k naam se pin kar diya jana chaahiye , forever.
saima56
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Jahan tak kisi member k naam se post title banay ka taaluk hai to it was saima "himself" who started this thing, uskay baad asim10 ne mere naam se propaganda post banayi...... mene dono baar intezar kiya k administration khud iss cheez ko rokay, lekin jab aisa nahin hua to mene bhi 2 posts 2 members k naam se kar di aur muje yakeen tha k ab admins zaroor notice lein gay........

Mujh par jhotay ilzamaat ki bochhaar, mukhtalif alqabaat se nawazna, mere khilaf jhota propaganda karna aur labelise karna jaari raha magar kisi ne iska notice nahin liya, maine bouhat wait kiya admins ka lekin kisi ne kisi ko nahin roka, main shikayat to tab karta jab muje ye yakeen hota k admins iss baat se na-ashna hain lekin main unko khud unhi posts mein dekhta to herat hoti k wo iss islam section ko akhaara kyun ban-ne de rahay hain jahan jahil maulviyun ki tarha sub ek doosray ko "muqaddas gaaliyan" de kar apnay mann ko satisfy kr rahay hain.....


joo post qurbani ka hawala sa thi, uss ko to kafi din hoogaya, aap ko achanak mai kaise yaad agaye mujhe yeh hairat hai ..ya to aap kissi aur ka gusa mujhe per nikal raha tha.. mai apni posts ko admin ka action ka lia paish kar chuki hoon agar admin ko zaroori laga ga to woo mujhe zaroor warning dain ga..

doosri baat aur upper aap kudh dekhain aap aik poora tabka ko jab maloon qarar daita hain, mulla , jahil mauli ka alqaab sa nawazta hain to phir bhut sa members aap ki rawish per chala jata hain..

saima56
QUOTE(Khalish @ Jan 18 2008, 03:14 AM) *
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Meraa khayyal hai keh maiN aur aap aik he track per haiN aur hamaare saath HC ke aur buhot se members bhi hooNge.

Baat sirf masle per rakhi jaaey tu talkhi paida hone ke kam imkanaat hote haiN. WE MUST ENSURE THAT WE REFRAIN OURSELVES AND DISCOURAGE OTHERS TO LABEL HC MEMBERS AS: JAMATI, MUNKAR.E.HADEES, PARVAZI, RAFZI, DEOBANDI, BARAILVI, QADIYANI, SHIYA ETC. Hamaari saari concentration topic per honi chahiye aur uss masle per jo zair.e.behas hai. Kisi ki raey ko yeh keh kar radd nahi kiya jaa sakta keh isse tu chooro yeh falaaN firqay se hai aur falaan ka follower hai .. THIS IS NOT A HEALTHY SIGN AND LABEL.

Kisi ki dil.aazaari kar deyna koi masla nahi hai (iss se apna jee kuch dair ke liye khush aur dosray ka zindagi bhar ke liye dukh jaata hai) maza tu jab hai keh hum tahzeeb ke dairay meiN rehte hoay ta'meeri discussions ko, jin se hamaari sooch aur approach meiN faraq pare, faroogh daiN.

Khush RahaiN rose.gif


Assalam-O-Alikum,

ji dursut farmaya aap ne, yahan sirf aik baat jo aap bhi nahi rook sakta ka aam toor per agar koi topic shuru hoota hai aur uss mai koi bhi theory paish hooti hai too hum jitne members hain woo uss theory ka creater to nahi na hi hum koi deeni maktab sa farighul tehseel hain, na hi alim fazil hain, lamahala discussion original thinker ya orifinal maktab per jati hai jiss ko mai ya aap dono nahi rook sakta.. abb islam section ki baat too door ki baat hai, aap normal dekh lain agar koi doosra section mai koi deen ki bunyad ki baat karda to ussa qadamat pasandi kaha jata hai aur phir uss topic mai qadamat pasand zaroor mauzu-e-behas ayeen ga, yaa koi aisee baat kar da jo jadidiaat per ho too lazmaan roshan khayal tabka zair-e-behas ata hai, .. iss ko aap ya mai kaisa rook sakta hain? yeh baat aap yaqeenan mere sa zaida behtar janta hooga kyunka aap kafi arsa sa moderation kar raha hain..

joo cheez roki jasakti woo members per personal attacks hain jiss ka bara mai aap na baja farmaya..

Allah hafiz

saima
Daylight
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joo post qurbani ka hawala sa thi, uss ko to kafi din hoogaya, aap ko achanak mai kaise yaad agaye mujhe yeh hairat hai ..ya to aap kissi aur ka gusa mujhe per nikal raha tha..


Ghussa!!! wo post ab bhi online yahan majood hai, uss mein apki taraf kya ghussa tha ?? sirf ye alfaaz thay k aap fauran doosron ko kafir karar dene k chakkaron mein rehti hain, was that wrong?? no sir.

Baki mene sirf ek sawaal k iya tha aur apko kuch nahi kaha,

lekin apko itni c baat itni hurt ki to khud andaza kijiye k jab aap iss se kahein zyada kehti rahi to doosray kitne hurt huay hon gay.......

Its better k hum sub yahan hi smjah aur soch lein k hurting words se parhez kiya jaye... warna hota yahi hai k apni ankh ka shehteer bhi nazar nahin aata aur doosray ki ankh ka baal bhi nazar aa jata hai......


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doosri baat aur upper aap kudh dekhain aap aik poora tabka ko jab maloon qarar daita hain, mulla ,


I stand by my comments, it was not directed to any "tabka", Mullaiyat kisi tabqay ka naam nahin balkeh aik makhsoos soch ka naam hai, wo soch jo islam k naam par muslims ko laranay aur gaaliyan dene aur firqon ko aapas mein laranay ka kaam sir anjaam deti hai......

Be in peace.

Allah Hafiz.
saima56
QUOTE(Daylight @ Jan 18 2008, 11:58 AM) *
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doosri baat aur upper aap kudh dekhain aap aik poora tabka ko jab maloon qarar daita hain, mulla ,


I stand by my comments, it was not directed to any "tabka", Mullaiyat kisi tabqay ka naam nahin balkeh aik makhsoos soch ka naam hai, wo soch jo islam k naam par muslims ko laranay aur gaaliyan dene aur firqon ko aapas mein laranay ka kaam sir anjaam deti hai......

Be in peace.

Allah Hafiz.


mai larna nahi chati magar aap kudh dekhain aap jahil molvi kahain ga ya mulla koo ghalat waja sa target kaain too jawabain koi iss ka muqabla mai aap ka lia bhi koi aisa label lia ga.. aga aap ki marzi.. mai ne upper darj kissi reply mai koi takhribi baat nahi ki, mai sirf yeh kaha ka agar waqai mere janib sa kothai ha to mere muhasiba hoona chaye..
Daylight
Should be closed now.
Big B
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Baat sirf masle per rakhi jaaey tu talkhi paida hone ke kam imkanaat hote haiN. WE MUST ENSURE THAT WE REFRAIN OURSELVES AND DISCOURAGE OTHERS TO LABEL HC MEMBERS AS: JAMATI, MUNKAR.E.HADEES, PARVAZI, RAFZI, DEOBANDI, BARAILVI, QADIYANI, SHIYA ETC. Hamaari saari concentration topic per honi chahiye aur uss masle per jo zair.e.behas hai. Kisi ki raey ko yeh keh kar radd nahi kiya jaa sakta keh isse tu chooro yeh falaaN firqay se hai aur falaan ka follower hai .. THIS IS NOT A HEALTHY SIGN AND LABEL.


I Agreed.

Jess Shaks Nay Aap Kay Ilm May Sirf "Alif" Kaa Bhi Izafa Kar Deya Ho, To Shaks Aap Kay Liye Qabil-e-Ehtram Hona Chahiyee.

Allah Hum Saab Koo Sabar Aur Aqal Istemal Karnay Kee Taqat Dey.

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