What about the use of honey for diabetic patients ??

koi Dr idhar aye ...mujhay bhi jan'na hay

Pure honey agar diabetics patient ko kaheen se miljati hai tu ise istemal kia jasakta hai yeh sehat ke liye nuqsan de nahi hai "honey boosts antioxidants your bodys natural defense against disease" jahan tak main janta hoon 3 table spoons honey ek cup ke barabar hai lekin diabetes waloon ko suger se parhez karni chayye candryl ka powder bhi aapko bazar se miljayegee jise diabetes ho ose ghar par glucometer bhi rakhna hota hai jis tarah blood suger shoot karta hai isi tara down bhi ho jata is liye suger ke level ko dekhte huye dawa khani chayye.

main koyee doctor nahi hoon lekin knowhow ki wajah se share karta rahta hoon

doctorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr sahab ........... kiyouN matreez ki jaan lena chaahtya ho. honey pure ho yaa jaali, dounouN zeyabatis k mareez k liyeh zahar hai, sugar ki tarah..............

maiN khud baras.haa baras say zeyabatis ka mareez houN....... baqi aap ki sari baat durust hai. diabetic patient woh hota hai, jiska 'khud.kaar nizaam' baraye suger utilization kharaab hota hai. lehaza ossay manually apna 'sugar level' within range rakhna paRta hai........ sugar level agar kam hojaye to bah qadar limit sugar / honey / koi bhi meeTheee shaii khayee jasakti hai aur khani paRti hai..... jab tak mareez khud ko manually sugar intake / monitoring par qaboo nahi paa letaa, ossay dr ki madad ki zaroorat hoti hai. aik baar jab woh iss mashq maiN maahir hojaye to woh normal life guzaar sakta hai.... behtar hai k aisaa mareez koi authentic book bhi apnay pass rakhay aur issay achi tarah read karlay.

Adnan sb aap ne details men jane ke liye majboor kia bahar kaif koyee bori bat nahi jis tarah aap suger ke mareej hain aur ghaliban aap type 2 ke mareez hain aur dawain aur test wagayera khud hee kar liya karte hain lekin
aap yaqeen karen yah na karen suger ke mareez ho kar bhi aap hamari tarah normal zindagi guzar sakte hain main aap ko apni marhoma wife ke suger ke bare men batata hoon meri wife ko type 2 blood suger hone ki wajah se dawa leni parti thee woh arsa qareeb 7 sal se is marz men mubtala theen lekin woh har cheez khati theen aur main khud apne hatoon se mitha yah deegar khane aakhir waqt men khilaya karta tha lekin koyee cheez ki bhi ziyadti bori hai aap ise chawal ki tarah istemal na karen kabhi khawhish
ho to khaya jasakta hai meri wife ka 7 saloon men kabhi suger agar barh jata dawa dene se bilkul normal ho jati aur baz waqt meetha yah toffee bhi khilani parti thee lekin khane ko khana samajh kar aur iska istemal ko samajh kar ke ketni khani chayye khana chayye main dunya ke ek bare doctor jinke degree MRCP FRCP aur KSIUT ADEEB RIZWI Sb ke sath mil kar chala te hai aur wife begining se le kar os waqt taq onse elaz karati raheen onhoon ne bhi kabhi honey mana nahi kia lekin keunke woh gastric ki mareez theen is liye wof ise isaphgol ki bhosi men mila kar peene ki talqeen karte thae pure honey shafa hai nuqsan de nahi

Suger ka blood test karna koi bari bat nahi ise agar koi zara bhi parah likha ho apne hatoon se test kar sakta hai aur paisay bhi sirf 20 yah 25 rupees lagte hain aur agar bahar se karayen ge to 100 ruppees lagen ge phaloon ka dher apne pasas na lagayen is men se chun kar ek khalen aaj ek phal kha le aur kal dosri khale istarah kare suger ka istemal band kar de agar mithee cheez ziyadah khaliee hai to test karte hoyee dawa istemal kar le Inshaalah kabhi takleef nahi hogi lekin GLUCO METER AUR ISKA STRIPS HONA BAHUT ZARORI HAI AUR YEH MUST HAI AUR BLOOD SUGER KE LEVEL KO DEKHTE HUYE KHANA ISTEMAL KAREN

Ghaliban main ne is se pehle bhi HONEY ke bare men likha tha jo ke isi website par mere a/c men hoga

thanx 4 ur detailed reply ... yeh to aap ko bhi maloom hoga k suger patient aam fard ki tarah 'apni marzi' say meeTha nahi khasaktaa... ab meeTha khaah aam ho, cheeni ho yaa honey ... aik hi baat hai... daylight bhai k sawaal ka matlab yeh thaa k kia honey diabetic patient ossi tarah kha sakta hai, jaisaa k aam aadmi khataa hai to iska jawaab yaqeenan NO hai.... suger patient har qism ka meeTha intehayee controlled quantity maiN khasakta hai... balkay khanaa paRta hai. aisay mareez chounkay minimum meeTha khatay haiN lehaza woh apnay saath toffee /sweets saath zaroor rakhtay haiN k agar low level say below hojaye to cheeni / toffee kha sakaiN........... aam fard ko aisee ehteyaat ki lazman zaroorat nahi hoti. woh shab baraat par bay daregh halwa khataa hai.... sab kuch 'hazam' hojata hai. aik aam aadmi jab meeTha zeyadah khata hai to pancreas /lablabah say insuline ka ikhraaj issi tanasub say tez hojata hai.... jabkay diabetic persons ka yeh system yaa to proper kaam nahi karta yaa bilkul kaam nahi karta.... har 2 qism k afraad medicine / insuline injection k zariyeh 'manually' apna sugar level control kartay haiN..... aap ko to yaqeenan yeh sab kuch pata hai. lekin maiN deger viewers k liyeh bhi batla raha houN......

honey yaqeenan aik aam fard k liyeh abhoot faidah mand hai. lekin diabetic fard ko iss say ossi tarah parhaiz karna hai jaisay woh suger say karta hai. plz correct, if i'm wrong.

Kisi bhi doctor ke pas jane ki zaroorat nahi hai aap mujh se rabta rakhkhen Inshaallal faida hoga khaw woh koyee bhi masala ho

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diabetics k liyeh 'honey therapy' hai zaroor magar iskay zariyeh aisay patients k ulcers aur deger amraaz ka elaaj hota hai lekin yeh bhi qualified aur trained drs. k zariyah karwana chahiyeh. az khud naheeN.

aap ka honey k bay.zarar honay par israar hai (4 diabetic patient) to please issay 'sabit' karaiN takay hum bhi pheeki zindagi choR kar dil bhar kar shahad say lutf andoz hosakaiN. cheeni ki jagah shahad ka istemaal bora nahi. mujhay pure shahad... direct junglaat k chattay say mil jata hai. ab maiN aap k DAWAY k motabiq honey apni marzi say ... jaisa non-diabetic log use kartay haiN, karsakta houN naa. Allah aap ka bhala karay aap nay to mera masla hi hul kardia.... just waiting 4 ur proof k hum diabetic g bhar kay asli shahad khaa saktay haiN. thanx n jazak Allah.

Yes waiting for it, agar aap honey ka insani jism mein metabolism bata sakain to bouhat meharbani ho gi.


Secondly jo loag abhi diabetes se door hain unko kya ehtayaat karni chaahiye k wo diabetes se door hi rahein...

waisay to har cheez ki zeyaadti, balkay zeyadah khana hi suhat k liyeh nuqsaan dah hai.... lekin yeh 'tassur' ghalat hai k zeyadah meeTha khanay say 'diabetic' hoti hai. maiN bachpan say meeTha pasand nahi kartaa / shauq say nahi khataa ... bus milgayaa to khalia nahi milaa to koi baat nahi... jabkay meray walid sahab meeThay k bahoot shauqeen haiN aur meeTha bahoot zeyadah abhi tak bahoot meeTha khatay haiN... mujhay diabetic hogayee aur onhaiN kuch nahi howaa.......... diabetic aik organ pancreas k out of order yaa low performance ki wajah say hota hai aur iski wajoohaat kuch aur houngeeN.

refined sugar to waisay hi koi achi cheez nahi ....... albatta agar aik sehat mand aadmi (jissay sugar nah ho) shahad regular use karay to yeh oskay liyeh bahoot useful hai.... iski afadiat to tibbay nabwi saw maiN bhi mazkoor hai. rozanah nihaar mouNh 2 table spoon honey neem garam yaa sadah paani maiN peenaa bahoot mofeed hai. bachouN k liyeh bhi aur baRouN k liyeh bhi....

hum bhi muntazir haiN k mahfuzur rahman sb diabetics k liyeh honey k useful honay ka koi saboot pesh karaiN.

mahfuzurRahman bhai
can you plz share your post with us which is about honey.shukriya.

Aap loog tajassus men aa gaye hain ke kia sahi hai aur kia galat ayse patients jinka blood sugar type 2 hai aur onka blood sugar bahut high rahta hai yah wooh loog jo deeply blood sugar ke nikat ko nahi samajhte behter hai ke honey se bilkul gurez karen keunke hazaroon qisim ki honey market men aa gayee hain jo ke qareeb qareeb jali hain yah artificial hain is liye mera mashwara yeh hai ke woh honey istemal na karen ayse loog bhi honey yah mitha ko soonch aur samajh kar istemal karen aur apne blood sugar ko level men rakhkhen har cheez ki inteha bori hai check and balance ka hona har jagha zaroori hai khaw woh koi cheez ho calories aur salt ka hamesha khiyal rakhkhen aao khana khayen khana aapko nahi khaye
hygienic condition men hamesha rahen tension se koshoon dur rahen aur hamesha har cheez ko easy le kar iska hal talash karen broad minded ho jayen


mehnat karen aur mehnat se jan na chorain is men bhi sehat ki raz hai meri btoon ka bora na manayen ALLAH TAALAH BEHTER KAREGA AAMEEN AAMEEN

yeh sab to Theek hai lekin asal baat to beech maiN hi rah gayee...

aap bainul satoor yeh kah rahay haiN k agar honey pure ho to type-2 diabetic ossay bila takalluf use karsakta hai.

agar aisaa hai k pure honey use kar sakta hai to please confirm or reject it.

daylight, shafaq n me r waiting for ur final n 2 tok recommendation wid proof.

peshgi shukarya

Wait for my final recommendation I had tried two times to send you details but failed as it was not accepting by PM but I am trying myself from various research sites to collect final information until then blood suger patients do not use any types of honey and wait for my details information.

As you have sent report about your father that your father is using two table spoonfuls of honey that is not quite right.He may takes two tea spoons of honey if he has not any problem of blood sugar.


mahfuzur rehman

AA bhai
mujhhay sirf honey ke fawaaid wali post chahiye kyunki Qur'an mein bhi shahed ka zikr hai aur yeh ke daily honey use kar saktay hain kya? aur iske benefits kya hain.

ok

Breakfast

The prophet(SAWS) said : “I advise you to drink honey.”

Preparation:

Use a full table spoon of honey along with a glass of water (200ml).
Steer until the honey dissolves totally in the water before usage.
Benefits:

- Awaken the entire digestive system, from mouth to intestines.

- obtain a sufficient amount of energy required for the daily activities by supplying the body with salt, minerals and the vitamins

- Mixes the order of the water molecules with that of the honey so the whole drink becomes beneficial. This method is used in the modern treatments named “treatment with water” (or hydropathy) where the water is enriched with the needed substance that the body needs.

PS: mujhay kissi nay sunnatay Nabwi saw say motalliq aik presentation bheji thee jiss maiN naashtah, lunch aur dinner ka zikr hai. iss maiN say honey /naashtay wala hissah above naqal kardia hai... meray pass iss ki koi refernce to nahi lekin aisa lagta nahi k kissi nay ghalat bayani ki hogi. wallah o alam bissawaab

click here for the post=> The Prophet's Diet

RE: honey‏From:askada@diabetes.orgSent:Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:45:05 PMReply-to:askada@diabetes.orgTo: mzrehmanpk@hotmail.comDear Mahfuzurrehman,

Thank you for contacting your American Diabetes Association. We have received your e-mail regarding honey.

The key is eating foods in moderation. Experts agree you can eat foods with sugar as long as you work them into your meal plan as you would any other carb-containing food. The same guidelines apply to other sweeteners with calories, including brown sugar, honey, and molasses. Of course, most sweets and desserts don't provide the important vitamins and minerals found in more healthful foods, so you’ll want to make sure you’re still getting the nutrients you need. Many sweets, in addition to having carbs, are also high in fat and calories.

To receive our free packet of information on diabetes management and wellness, please reply to this e-mail with your full name and mailing address.

In addition, the American Diabetes Association offers memberships to both Consumers and Health Professionals. A general membership application form is included in the information packet that we send out. We also have free electronic newsletters. So if you're looking for diabetes news updates, book information or ways to get involved, the American Diabetes Association has an e-newsletter that's right for you. Please visit our website links provided below for more information.

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Sincerely,



Jane Nyondo
Coordinator, National Call Center
American Diabetes Association
1-800-342-2383

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ismein reference ki mujhhay koi zururat naheen,achcee baat hai,dil o dimagh qubool karta hai to bas kaafi hai
aapka shukriya
waise one of my family member drinks chaaye with honey ( no sugar) i don't know the benefit lekin sugar replaced by honey i think it is a good idea.

thts right...i do it most of the time.....no harm in it(but again i don't know bt diabetic patients if they can consume honey in ne way like a normal person or not)

and its not answered by M-R

I have already pasted email of American Diabetese Association in which there is clear advise that diabetics may take honey.See it just below wait for my final information.I think you will get it.I have already sent two emails to Mr Adnan in this regard and he will also confirm it that he has already got true copy of email of ADA

mahfuzur rehman

bilkul ... white suger say to brown sugar /guR bahoot achi cheez hai n honey is the best. no doubt in it.

like a normal person they can't.

diabetic persons can't use any type of sweetness (including honey) like a normal person. but they can use all type of sweetness including honey with controlled quantity as per their regular blood suger monitoring results or as advised by their doctor.

bottom line yeh hai k diabetic patient nay 'manually' apnay blood sugar ko upper n lower limit k darmayaan rakhna hai daily. kuch dinouN tak daily intake sweets aur blood sugar results ko match karnay say andazah hojata hai k kissi patient nay daily ketna sweet khanaa hai, kissi bhi form maiN.

hope k above statement par MR ko koi objection nah hoga. we both are non-doctors. lehazaa agar hum dounouN ki batouN maiN kissi ko khola tazaad nazar aaye to barahay raast kissi achcha diabetologist say rajoo karay. net ki unconfirmed info par apni zindagi ko daa'o par nah lagaye.

You must follow the advises of the doctors and proffesionals.Avoid to take sugar and inplace of sugar all of you may use candryl tab and powder of candryl.You may use dsugar free sweets,cold drink etc which are available in the market freely BAD EHTIAHTI KARNE SE 100 PERCENT GUREZ KAREN BLOOD SUGAr nehayet hee kharab cheez hai.IF ANY BODY REQUIRES ANY INFORMATION CONTACT DIRECTLY TO AMERICAN DIABETES ASSOCITION FOR FURTHER GUIDENSE.HOPE ALL OF YOU WILL FOLLOW IT STRICTLY.

hope k above statement par MR ko koi objection nah hoga. we both are non-doctors. lehazaa agar hum dounouN ki batouN maiN kissi ko khola tazaad nazar aaye to barahay raast kissi achcha diabetologist say rajoo karay. net ki unconfirmed info par apni zindagi ko daa'o par nah lagaye

ELAZ SE EHTIAT BEHTER HAI

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU,DUA FOR MY MARHOMA WIFE ALSO.

got it ...thanks all

I have already pasted reply of American diabetic association which you may seen in this page which is self explanatory and now it is clear but better if you have too much sugar then you avoid honey because now a days to get pure honey is not possible.So avoid it fully but you must monitor your sugar time to time and there should not be any negligency in monitoring remain on advise of your professional strictly.

Allah Hafiz

mahfuzurrehman

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Sugar: What Kinds to Eat and When

WebMD Feature from "Men's Fitness" Magazine
</H3>By Joseph Wuebben and Mike Carlson



It's been two years since Russ started to get his diet in shape. Slowly but surely he cut out the late-night pizzas, the morning doughnuts and the evening drive-thru. It wasn't easy, but the weight came flying off. To a point. Then, no matter how miserly he became toward fat grams, he still couldn't get that lean, chiseled look. As he cracked his third Mountain Dew of the day-congratulating himself because it's fat-free-he began to think that he would never get the six-pack of his dreams.

Unless you've got a Ph.D. in biochemistry, you're probably exhausted from the endless debate surrounding sugar. And if your info has come largely from television, you're hopelessly confused. Treading that fine white line demands some balance. If you eat too little, you don't have the energy to work out; too much, and you get fat. It's really a simple matter of figuring out what kinds of sugar to eat and when, in order to lose weight, build muscle and protect your health.

<H3>The Science of Sweet
Okay, kids, sit down and listen closely. All sugars are carbohydrates, known as "simple" carbs, since they're composed of just one sugar molecule. The label on a can of Pepsi reads 41 grams of carbs and 41 grams of sugar. This means that every single carbohydrate comes from sugar. The label on a package of plain oatmeal will read 18 grams of carbs and only one gram of sugar. Almost all of the carbs in oatmeal are made up of long chains of sugar molecules called "complex" carbs. Oatmeal, along with sweet potatoes, wheat breads, rice and corn, is a complex carb, also known as a starch.

In this age of convenience foods, the terms complex and simple are a bit outdated. For the purpose of losing fat and building muscle, it's smarter to look at carbs as either "unrefined" or "processed." The former refers to whole foods that contain sugar, such as fruits, vegetables, juices, grains and legumes, and that still hold their natural water, fiber, phytochemicals, vitamins and minerals. Processed foods include white bread, soda, candy, crackers, cookies and just about any commercial product labeled "fat-free." These have been stripped of their wholesome attributes and are dense with nothing but empty calories. For instance, one gram of a cracker will contain four calories, but one gram of an orange contains about 0.2 calories, because the bulk of its weight is water and fiber.


The Glycemic Index
The glycemic index rates how quickly certain foods turn into glucose (a form of sugar) in the bloodstream, and is a valuable tool when trying to control sugar intake and limit its effect on you. While high-glycemic-index foods can cause a rapid jump in blood sugar, followed by a massive crash, low-glycemic-index foods increase blood sugar slowly, providing constant and stable energy levels over a considerable period of time. Several factors contribute to a low rating, such as the presence of protein, fiber and fat. Pure processed sugars garner the highest scores, with the most highly processed foods topping the list. For instance, out of a possible 100, instant rice earns a 90 while fibrous, vitamin-rich brown rice gets a 55.

Recent studies by the Harvard School of Public Health show that diets loaded with high-GI foods lead to an increased risk of type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease and obesity. In fact, the World Health Organization is spearheading a movement to include GI ratings on food labels, and several products in Australia already bear the grade. For an extensive rundown of the glycemic index, go to www.mensfitness.com/glycemic.

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