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main admins aour moderator say yeh pochna chahta hoon kay kiya AZADI AIY RAYAI ka kowee usool aour hadood qoud hain kay nahin.yeh main is leeyai keh raha hoon kay app kay aik puranay member sahib hain DAY LIGHT SAHIB woh jab chahay jis waqat chahain kowee na kowee aisa topic shoro kar daitai hain jo islam kay musalima usooloon kay khilaf hota hay . mairay sirf in 2 month kay doran in hon nay 3 topic aisay choro kiyai jo naqabilay ashaa'aat hain .
1 . sahaba kiram say mansoob 3 karamatoon main inhoon nay khull kar ahadiht ka inkar kiya. magar app loog khamosh rahay .
2. music kay silsilay main in hoon nay khulay aam music ko halal qarar diya aour jo hashar inhoon nay ahdith ka kiya woh sub nay parha magar app khamoosh rahay .
3. mullah kay naam say inhoon nay aik topic shoro kiya . aour phir joo deenga mastee us room main in hoon nay kee app phir parh lain agar ap nay nahin parhee.mulllah aour ulema kay khilaf jo zehr inhoon nay ugla hay usay bhee ghaor say daikhain.
4. aour abb inhoon nay ikhtlaf aiy qirat kay naam say aik new topic shoro kar diya.
DAY LIGHT KAY KARNAMAY
INKA SUB SAY BARA KARNAMA TO YEH HAY KAY YEH PERVAIZ JAISAY LANTEE SHAKS SAY MUTASIR HAIN .
AOUR US KA NATEEJA YEH NIKLTA HAY JAHAN SAY BHEE AHADITH KAY KHILAF KOWEE MOAAAD MILA USAY NA SIRF MUTASIR HOTAY HAIN BULKAY US YAHAN PER PAISH BHEE KAR TAY HAIN .
JAB DIL CHAHA JIS WAQAT DIL CHAHA AHADITH RASOOL SAW KO RAD KAR DIYA. IS KEE TO BAY SHUMAR MISALAIN HAIN . AOUR KEHTAY YEH HAIN KAY JANABB YEH KHILAFY AQAL HAIN ILOGICAL HAY.
ADMINS PLZ YEH BATAIN KIYA APP LOOG BILKUL HEE SOO AIY HOWAY HAIN. KIYA APP KO NAHIN PATA CHALTA KAY YEH KIYA KIYA LIKHTA HAY ISLAM SECTION MAIN .
AOUR YAAD RAKHAIN IN KAY IN AQAID SAY KOWEE SADDA LOH MUSLMAN BHEE INKAR AIY HADITH KE TARAF RAGHIB HO GAIYA TO DL TO JAWAB DAY GHA HEE MAGAR AP LOOG BHEE IS KAY JAWAB DAY HOO GHAY.
IN KOO JO BHEE AQAID HAIN WOH IN KO MUBARAK . LAIKIN IS TARAHA IN KEE ASHAAT KE EJAZAT APP LOOG KAISAY DAITAY HAIN .
PLZ ADMIN AND MODS PLZ KUCH QWANEEN BANAIN APNAY NAZRIYAT KEE WAZAHAT KAY . KHAS TAOUR PER ISLAMIC TOPIC PER BAAT KARNAY KEE AIK HAD HONEE CHAHYEE.
YEH MUJH SAY BHAGAY KIUON HAIN , KIUON KAY MAIN IN KEE SHEH RAG KOO PAKRA HAY . APP MULLAH WALEE POST MAIN MAIRAY NOTES BHEE PARH LAIN .
MUSIC KAY THREAD MAIN INHOON NAY JO AIK RAVI HASHAM BIN AMMAR KE WAJAH SAY AIK HADITH KE RAD KIYA MAIN US KA JO JAWAB DIYA TO WOH BHEE DAIKHAIN .
MAIN INKO CHORON GHA NAHIN , MAGAR MAIN DARTA HOO KAY MAIREE TOO KHAIR HAY MAGAR KOWEE AOUR GHUMRAH NAA HOON . IS LEEYA PPLZ APP LOOG KUCH USOOL BANAIN QURAN AOUR O HADITH PER LIKHNAY KAY .
IN KE IS HARKAT SAY AIK AAM MUSLMAAN KAY DIL MAIN LAZMAN ZAROOR BIL ZAROOR MAIN SHAK O SHUBHAT PAIDA HO SAKTAY HAIN .PLZ IS BARAY MAIN ZAROOR SOCHAIN,
AOUR PLZ YEH BHEE BATA DAIN MAIN NAY AGAR SHIA SAY IKHTILAF RAKHTAY HOWAY YAZEED KA TOPIC SHORO KIYA TO APP NAY BAND KAR DIYA.MAIN AIK POST DO DIN PEHLAY SHORO KEE ,SYDNA ALI RZ KA JAMAY KARADA QURAN KA AQEEDA JO SHIO KA HAY.APP NAY WOH BHEE REMOVE KAR DIYA.
BAHI AGAR IKHTILFEE MOZOAAT KE MUMANIYAT HAY IS FORUM PER TOO PHIR DAY LIGHT JAISAY MUNKIRAY HADITH KO KAISAY IJAZAT HAY APNAY AQAID PHILANAY KEE PLZ ZARA IS KE WAZAHAT KAR DAIN PLZ

If you ask any mullah a question he would never answer. He will get angry at your logical authentic arguments and instead of answering the main question with logic he will start scolding you. A Mullah is like a write protected CD. It plays only what is recorded on it and nothing can be entered in it.

To shorten this long race, when I talk to someone, just tell him that we both have different views. How it will be decided that who is right and who is wrong. If he is ready to accept that Allah's book Quran will decide that, start the debate. Otherwise, just tell him, since you are not ready to accept Allah's words, I have no arguments better than Allah's word.

Islam Deen-e-Fitrat hay, Allah ta'la nay issi liya Quran maiN Garantee dee hay kay koy bhi iss Deen (Quran) maiN rad.o.badl nahi ker sakay ga, kyoN kay Allah nay kisi insaan ko yeh qowat hi ata nahi key kay woh fitrat kay mus'lima asoolooN kay khilaaf ja sakay.

Yehi wajaah hay kay 1400 saal guzr janay kay baad bhi Eak bhi Islam-Dushman Islam key asli halat ko bigarnay maiN na-kam raha, haan, Islam kay naam say firqay buhat say paida ker liya gay, jin key base Kitab-Ullah aur Aswa-e-Rasool (SAAW) kay bajaye kisi aur shakhsiyat aur uss say mansoob kitab per base kertay hain.

Daylight ho ya koy aur, kisi bhi itni jurat nahi kay woh Islam kay qawneen maiN rad.o.badl ker sakay, jin topics ka app hawala day rahay hain, agr app un ka mutalaya karaiN\n tu app ko andaza ho ga kay Daylight kay dalail maiN wazan hay jab kay App log apni hi paish kr ahadees ko sahi sabit kernay main nakaam rahay.
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Islam Mezaan ka mazhab hay, meray nazdeek Islam kay paigham ka maqsad sirf "Be Just and KIND to Weak" key taleem dayna hay. Islam nay jin batooN say mana kerna hay uss maiN Allah tala nay hail.o.hijat say kaam nahi lya! balkay sareeh ilfaaz maiN momaa'na't key hay. kyoN kay Allah ta'la ko kisi ka khouf nahi hay. Music un cheezooN maiN shamil nahi hay jinhay Sareehan haraam qaraar diya gaya ho. haaN jaisay hi koy cheez tawazun loose kernay lagay tu Islam ussay haraam qaraar dayta hay, yehi Allah ka hukm hay, kay " mezan mat toRo" (Al-Rehman)

Jab daleel ka jawab na ban paRay tu log galam galoch per uter aatay haiN, app ka case mukhtalif nahi, app nay baghair tehqeeq kiya Allah tala ay bandooN per kuch ilzaam tarashiyaaN key haiN, I am sure kay app iss position maiN kabhi bhi nahi aa sakaiN gay kay apnay Ilzaamaat ko sabit karaiN, kyoN kay Allah tala, aisay bandooN ko baseerat say mehroom ker dayta hay ju suni suna'i ya paRhi paRha'i baat ko bila tehqeeq tasleem ker laytay haiN.

App ka case un say mukhtaleef nahi ju yahaaN per aatay rahay aur bay-saboot ilzaamat lagatay rahay! aakhir main app key request kay jawab maiN kehna chahooN ga hay Muhtram Mods aur Admins, aisay members ka kya hal hona chahiyee ju behas aur mubahisay maiN maar kha ker idher udher cheekhnay lagtay haiN?

Abhi kuch din pehle hi Suggestions walay forum mein Admins ka kehna tha k wo inn ilzam tarashiyun ka sadd e baab karein gay, lets see.

Asim ki issi adat ya daleel ka jawab gaali galoch se dena, ki wajah se mene yahan inka boycott kar rakha hai, kyunke Allah ka farmaan hai k jahan tum fazool aur laghv baatein suno wahan se matanat aur shareefana andaz se nikal jaao kyunke aisay logon se "pooray nahin aya jata".

Jab kisi k paas daleel ka jawab nahin hota to wo issi tarha ghussa kar k aur dosron ko galiyan de kar apnay dil ka ghubaar nikalta hai...... Aisay logon ko kuch nahin kehna chaahiye kyunke inki haalat to pehle hi bouhat qaabil e reham hoti hai.......they need a phsychologist.

Albatta inko kuch Nabwi Nuskhay zaroor batanay chahiye, pesh e khidmat hain

Ek tez mizaaj k admi ne Rasool(PBUH) se kaha "muje koi naseehat kijiye"
Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Ghussa na kiya karo"
Uss admi ne baar baar kaha k mujhay naseehat kijiye aur har baar Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Ghussa na kiya karo" (Reference: Sahi Bukhari)


Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya k Ye cheez mominana akhlaq mein shaamil hai k jab kisi shakhs ko ghussa aaye to uska ghussa uss se ghalat kaam na karvaye (Ref: Mishkaat)


Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Jo apnay ghussay ko rokay ga Allah qayamat k din uss se azab ko hata le ga". ( Ref: Mishkaat)


Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Taqatwar wo nahin jo kushti mein doosray ko hara de balkeh asli taqatwar wo hai jo ghussay k mauqay par apnay opar qaabu rakhay (Ref: Sahi Bukhari)


Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Ghussa shaitani asar ka nateeja hai aur shaitaan aag se paida kiya gaya hai aur aag pani se bhujti hai lehaza kisi ko ghussa aaye to ussay chahiye k wuzu kar le" (Ref: Sunan Abu Daud)


Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Jab tum mein se kisi ko kharay honay ki halat mein ghussa aaye to ussay chahiye k wo baith jaye phir bhi ghussa kum na ho to late jaye" (Ref: Mishkaat)


Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Sub se wazni cheez jo qayamat k din Momin ki tarazu mein rakhi jaye gi wo uska husn e akhlaq ho ga". (Ref: Tirmizi)


Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Allah uss shakhs se bughz rakhta hai jo bud-zubani karta hai" (Ref: Tirmizi)


Rasool(PBUH) ne irshaad farmaya "Kya tumhein maloom hai k gheebat kya hai?
Logon ne kaha "Allah aur uskay Rasool zyada jantay hain".
Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Gheebat ye hai k tu apnay bhai ka zikr iss andaz se karay jisko wo na-pasand karta hai". (Ref: Mishkaat)



Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Gheebat zana se bhi zyada sakht gunah hai"
Logon ne kaha "Ya Rasool(PBUH) gheebat zana se sakht gunah kesay hai?"
Rasool(PBUH) ne farmaya "Admi zana karta hai aur phir tauba karta hai to Allah uski tauba qabool kar leta hai lekin gheebat karnay waalay ko Allah tab tak maaf nahin karay ga jab tak wo shakhs usko maafi na de de jis ki us ne gheebat ki hai". (Ref: Mishkaat)

@ Daylight post # 6 .. jo kuch iss tehreer meiN kaha gaya hai usse aqal ki kasooti per her shakhs ko parakhna chahiye. Fitrat ne insaan meiN yeh khoobi rakhi hai keh woh haq.o.batil meiN tameez kar sake ... dil (jahaan se poore jism ko tawanaae faraham karne ka intizaam hai) zaroor gawahi dey deyta hai .. lekin agar issi per taala laga diya jaaey tu phir yeh mehz aik louthary ka kaam karta hai aur isske jism ko faraham karda mawaad se haq.o.batil ko samajhne ki tameez 'saaqit' ho jaati hai.

Ab Asim10 ki iss post per Daylight ya khud unke ta'aluq se kya soocha jaaey?

If you do no want to read his posts, you are free to do so. What's the problem?

abhi aap k muslim bhai posts karte hain/aap ko replies dete hain to yai haal ...kal agar koi christian/yahoodi/hindu is forum ko join karta hai or Islam section main apnay aqeeday ki post karta hhai or hum sab say poochta hai k mere aqeeday ko wrong proove karo... aap to tab bhi cheekhain gay k toba toba...is nay kiya post kar diya...

buaht khoob kaha app nay dl sahib.main app ke daleel ka jawab nahin deta. "dil kay behlanay koo ghalib yeh khiyal acha hay" zara 3 karamatoon walee , moseeqee wali aour mullah walee post phir perh lain phir dubara yehe baat kahain.asal problem yeh hay kay is qisam kay forum per log lambi lambi post parhtay nahin.aour app ko aadat hay lambeeeeeeee lambeeeeeee post karnay kaa(zara kisi bhee hc member say poch lain kiya unhoon nay app kowee bhee post aj tak poree parhee hay. aour khas taour par app ke qirat wali post to sirf open hee howee ho ghee.).aour ziyda tar ke to yeh koshish hotee hay kay jo kuch unhoon nay likha hay us ke post per hee behs hoo. aour yeh aik insanee fitrat ke wajah say hay. warna agar dost mukammal ka motalia karatay too shayad app ko her taraf say isi tanqeed ka samna hota. aour waisay bhee main nay dekha hay kay app say to taqreeban her hc member hee ikhtilaf rakhta hay.ap nay aik do posts main jahan leader bahi nay app say ikhtilaf kiya app nay un ko bhee keh diya kay app say behs karna fazool hay. jahan kaheen saima 56 nay app say ikhtilaf kiya app ke ikhlakiyaat ka waheen janaza nikal gaiya

zara in haditoon ka ref day dain aour yeh bhee bata dain kitni ahdith in may say sahih hain.

aour rahee yeh baat kay app ke daleel ka kowee jawab nahin daita . to arz hay kay aik too ap ke daleel hee bay wazan aour aqal per mabni hotee hay . aour aqal ka deen kay ahkaamat main kowee kaam nahin.aour doree baat kay app nay ajj tak apnee daleel dee kahan hay .pervaiz ka us say mutasir shuda kuch logon ke kutab say sirf page paste keeyai hain . (app nay ajj tak jab bhee ayat paish kee to sirf translation pay hee iqtefaa kiya.agar hadith paish kee too us ka bhee mubhim sa ref day diya.isi post main dekh lain app nay ahadith too dee hain magar kuch ka ref to diya hee nahin. agar diya be too sirf MISHKAT likhnay per iktefaa kiya. magar is kay bar aks main nay na sirf app ke hee dee howee ayat ka arabi text paish kiya bulkay un ka urdu translation bhee paish kiya.agr kowee hadith paish kee to us ka asal ref bhee diya aour koshish kee kay us ka arabi text bhee likh doon .zara in batoon per phir gaour karain sir . [/b]

LOLZ
kee log ho tusi yaar

Kuch samajh nahin lag rahi k banda ab asim bhai ki posts par kya kahay,

Ghaour kijiye ga, ye farmatay hain "ap ke daleel hee bay wazan aour aqal per mabni hotee hay." Yani inkay nazdeek jo daleel aqal par mabni ho wo bay-wazan hoti hai, aur agar meri daleel bay-aqli wali hoti tab inkay nazdeek wazan daar honi thi I can only smile on it


Phir irshad hota hai "aqal ka deen kay ahkaamat main kowee kaam nahin." Jiskay paas jo cheez hoti hai wo to ussay use karta hai, Allah khud kehta hai k momin wo hai jo apnay dil k itmenaan k sath islam k ahkamaat qabool karta hai, phir kehta hai k Momin wo hain k jab Quran ki ayaat bhi unkay saamne pesh ki jain to un par ghaour o fikr kartay hain..... Ab seedhi c baat hai k jiskay paas aqal hai wo aqal to use karay ga hi, iss par usko ilzam dena k nahin tum aqal kyun use kartay ho, aqal wali daleel to bay wazan hoti hai to ab iss par agla banda kya kahay ?? Banda samjhaye bhi usko jisne aqal use karni ho, jisne keh diya k mene aqal hi use nahin karni to usko bhala samajhanay ka koi faida hai ?? Mene opar jo fiqra likha tha kitna sahi tha k " A Mullah is like a write protected CD. It plays only what is recorded on it and nothing can be entered in it." Saaf zahir hai jisne aqal hi use nahin karni aur uskay zehan mein jo kuch bhar diya gaya hai usne wohi kuch kehna hai bagher sochay samjhay to phir aisay logon k moonh lagnay ka kya faida ??

Insaan aur janwar mein asal farq aqal ka hi hai, jo shakhs aqal istemaal nahin karta wo doosron ko bhi haiwani satah par zindagi guzaarnay ki targheeb de aur phir kahay k ye islam ka hukam hai to aisa kehne waalon se Allah hi nibtay, ye isnan k bus ka kaam nahin...... ??



Iss se bara jhoot aur kya ho ga, kyunke mere abhi kuch din pehle kiye gaye 2 topics "kaam ki baatein" hi dekh lein jin mein arabic aur translation dono majood hain,
Doosri cheez k HC par arbi daan hazraat na honay k barabar hain lehaza translation bhi kaam kar jati hai aur jisne arabic dekhni ho to uskay paas kya Quran nahin ?? Kya apkay ghar mein Quran nahin ?? balkeh main kehta hon k shaaid hi koi aisa badnaseeb ho jisne apnay PC mein Quran save kar k na rakha ho..... beshumaar websites par bhi ye maajood hai...... Lagta hai apko paki pakayi khaanay ka bouhat shauq hai

lekin baat wohi hai k kuch logon ko sirf aitraz baraye aitraz karnay ki aadat hai......



Banda jhoot bol le lekin zara c sharam bhi to rakhay na,

farmaatay hain "isi post main dekh lain app nay ahadith too dee hain magar kuch ka ref to diya hee nahin." zara bataain k kis hadith ka reference nahin diya ???

agr kisi ka dil aur dimaagh itna bara nahi hai k kisi ka point of view accept to kia usay sun ker berdasht kr sakay .......aur apni aqal ko itna sa istemaal kr sakay k sahi kia hai ghalat kia .... apney firqon se balater ho ker sirf Quran ko samjhanay ki koshish krle ...................................... to behas mai parne ki zarooorat kia hai .... aap sab log apnay deen mai itnay perfect hain to apna apna deeen jiyain aik doosray per ungli kiun uthatay hain?

agr kisi ko un-biased healthy discussion nahi kerni aati to yahan mat aye ...... jab ayo esi hi cheezain dekhnay ko milti hain ... esa hi kerna hai to Islam section chor kr baaki jis marzi section mai ja kr ungli uthanay, buray naamon se pukarnay, lame batain kerne ka shoq pooora ker lay ... magr please is jaga ko saaaf suthra rehnay dain ..

SIFAYI NISAF EEEMAAAAN hai .... TOPICS aur LANGUAGE ko SAAAAAF rakhain ........ tata