Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Zakaat - Sadqa - Kherat - Madad
HulChul.NET > Religions > Islam
Uncertainty
Asslam-o-aleikum all!

wese im confused how to ask the question. but lemme try

zakat sadqa kahiraat aur madad are different things right?

in mai se kia sirf muslims ko lagta hai? ya Non-muslims ko bhi de saktay hain ya help ker saktay hain.

i need a detailed answer.
question samjh na aye to please ask.
Kashif
I think Zakat kay liyay to masarif bata diyay gayay hain kay falaN falaN qisam kay logoN ko aap zakat dey saktay hain ...un ki aik post bhi ki thi Abu Adnan bhai nay ...us mein 8 qisam kay log aatay hain

baqi sadqa, khairat waghaira apnay maal mein say ghariboN ki madad karnay kay liyay hi hotay hain aur aap chahein to ghair muslim ko bhi dey saktay hain ...laikin comparatively musalman ka haq ziada hoga us par
Abu Adnan
QUOTE(Uncertainty @ Jan 30 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]2694274[/snapback]
Asslam-o-aleikum all!

wese im confused how to ask the question. but lemme try

zakat sadqa kahiraat aur madad are different things right?

in mai se kia sirf muslims ko lagta hai? ya Non-muslims ko bhi de saktay hain ya help ker saktay hain.

i need a detailed answer.
question samjh na aye to please ask.



1. zakaat: apni salaanah bachat, zaroorat say zayad woh raqam+sona+chandi jo saal bar tak aap k paas rahay aur nisaab k equal ho (i.e. euaivalent to 7.5 tolay gold) to aap par 2.5% zakaat farz hai. zakaat ki raqam sirf muslims ko day saktay haiN. muslims maiN bhi syed /ahlay bait ko nahi day saktay aur non-muslims ko bhi nahi day saktay..... zakat ki raqam indivisual / afraad ko dee jasakti hai, general welfare k kaamouN maiN nahi.... mazeed detail quran maiN bhi hai.

zakat apni aulaad jaisay betay aur beTay k beTay, parents aur parents k parent aur biwi ko bhi nahi dee jasakti. yaani jinki zimmah daari aap par hai, onhain zakaat nahi dee jasakti.... maal.daar biwi, apnay naadaar shauhar ko zakaat day sakti hai. zakaat zaroorat mand bahn bhai aur deger qareebi azeez /relatives ko bhi dee jasakti hai balkay dena chahiyeh iska double sawab hota hai. aik relatives ki dekh bhaal kaa aur doosray zakaat denay kaa .... kissi ko, bilkhasoos azeezouN ko zakaat detay waqt yeh batlaanaa zaroori nahi k yeh zakaat ki raqam hai... onhaiN gift /eidee etc kah kar bhi zakaat di jasakti hai balkay aisaa karnay ko encourage kia gaya hai taakay onki dil shikni nah ho... albattah dil maiN zakaat ki niyyat zaroori hai... zakaat denay say pahlay zakaat denay ki niyyat zaroori hai ... as a help raqam deker baad main zakaat ki niyyat karna sahi nahi.

2. sadqah: yeh kissi baRi museebat ko taalnay ki khatir yaa Talnay par yaa maani howi minnat poori karnay k liyeh dee jati hai. sadqah maiN amooman janwer qurbaan kia jata hai. tahaam sadqah maiN raqam bhi day saktay haiN.... meray khayaal say yeh bhi muslims hi ko dee jasakti hai (i'm not confirmned)

3. khairaat aur madad sab ki ki jasakti hai. muslim aur non muslim both.... balkay agar aas paas non-muslim zaroorat mand ho to oski madad zaroor karni chahiyeh.
Uncertainty
QUOTE(M Kashif Nisar @ Jan 30 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]2694475[/snapback]
I think Zakat kay liyay to masarif bata diyay gayay hain kay falaN falaN qisam kay logoN ko aap zakat dey saktay hain ...un ki aik post bhi ki thi Abu Adnan bhai nay ...us mein 8 qisam kay log aatay hain

baqi sadqa, khairat waghaira apnay maal mein say ghariboN ki madad karnay kay liyay hi hotay hain aur aap chahein to ghair muslim ko bhi dey saktay hain ...laikin comparatively musalman ka haq ziada hoga us par



kashif bhai mera sawal yeh nahi k deserving kon hai kon nahi .. yeh hai k non-muslims ko de saktay hain ya nahi ..

aaj kal jese christian maids hoti hain .. to kia un ki help krna lagta hi nahi? yaani kerni hi nahi chahiay k wo konsa laagu hai ...

im not clear i need detailed satisfying version of answer
Abu Adnan
QUOTE(Uncertainty @ Jan 30 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]2694510[/snapback]
kashif bhai mera sawal yeh nahi k deserving kon hai kon nahi .. yeh hai k non-muslims ko de saktay hain ya nahi ..

aaj kal jese christian maids hoti hain .. to kia un ki help krna lagta hi nahi? yaani kerni hi nahi chahiay k wo konsa laagu hai ...

im not clear i need detailed satisfying version of answer



non-muslim molaazmeen ki to help zaroor karni chahiyeh. lekin zakat /sadqah ki raqam say nahi balkay alag khairaat / help k taur par..... zakaat to aik ebadat hai jo farz hai.... help / khairaat farz nahi nafil hai. aap ko christian maids kihelp zaroor karni chahiyeh lekin zakat ki raqam say nahi. hope baat clear hogaye hogi.
Uncertainty
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Jan 30 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]2694509[/snapback]
1. zakaat: apni salaanah bachat, zaroorat say zayad woh raqam+sona+chandi jo saal bar tak aap k paas rahay aur nisaab k equal ho (i.e. euaivalent to 7.5 tolay gold) to aap par 2.5% zakaat farz hai. zakaat ki raqam sirf muslims ko day saktay haiN. muslims maiN bhi syed /ahlay bait ko nahi day saktay aur non-muslims ko bhi nahi day saktay..... zakat ki raqam indivisual / afraad ko dee jasakti hai, general welfare k kaamouN maiN nahi.... mazeed detail quran maiN bhi hai.

zakat apni aulaad jaisay betay aur beTay k beTay, parents aur parents k parent aur biwi ko bhi nahi dee jasakti. yaani jinki zimmah daari aap par hai, onhain zakaat nahi dee jasakti.... maal.daar biwi, apnay naadaar shauhar ko zakaat day sakti hai. zakaat zaroorat mand bahn bhai aur deger qareebi azeez /relatives ko bhi dee jasakti hai balkay dena chahiyeh iska double sawab hota hai. aik relatives ki dekh bhaal kaa aur doosray zakaat denay kaa .... kissi ko, bilkhasoos azeezouN ko zakaat detay waqt yeh batlaanaa zaroori nahi k yeh zakaat ki raqam hai... onhaiN gift /eidee etc kah kar bhi zakaat di jasakti hai balkay aisaa karnay ko encourage kia gaya hai taakay onki dil shikni nah ho... albattah dil maiN zakaat ki niyyat zaroori hai... zakaat denay say pahlay zakaat denay ki niyyat zaroori hai ... as a help raqam deker baad main zakaat ki niyyat karna sahi nahi.

2. sadqah: yeh kissi baRi museebat ko taalnay ki khatir yaa Talnay par yaa maani howi minnat poori karnay k liyeh dee jati hai. sadqah maiN amooman janwer qurbaan kia jata hai. tahaam sadqah maiN raqam bhi day saktay haiN.... meray khayaal say yeh bhi muslims hi ko dee jasakti hai (i'm not confirmned)

3. khairaat aur madad sab ki ki jasakti hai. muslim aur non muslim both.... balkay agar aas paas non-muslim zaroorat mand ho to oski madad zaroor karni chahiyeh.


hmm .. acha agr aap ne koi ajeeb ya bura dream dekha hai, yaa aap kisi baray haadsay se bach jatay hain to aap sadqa ya kherraat waghera kertay hain .. mazeed kisi preshaani k anay se bachne k liay etc etc .
is soorat mai kia sirf janwar ki qurbaani ki jaati hai.... yeh sadqa hota hai ya kheraat ... aur kia yeh non-muslims ko nahi de saktay?
Uncertainty
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Jan 30 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]2694511[/snapback]
non-muslim molaazmeen ki to help zaroor karni chahiyeh. lekin zakat /sadqah ki raqam say nahi balkay alag khairaat / help k taur par..... zakaat to aik ebadat hai jo farz hai.... help / khairaat farz nahi nafil hai. aap ko christian maids kihelp zaroor karni chahiyeh lekin zakat ki raqam say nahi. hope baat clear hogaye hogi.


jee yeh baat to clear hai k zakaaat nahi di ja sakti un ko ... bata hai sadqay aur kheraat ki
Abu Adnan
QUOTE(Uncertainty @ Jan 30 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]2694512[/snapback]
hmm .. acha agr aap ne koi ajeeb ya bura dream dekha hai, yaa aap kisi baray haadsay se bach jatay hain to aap sadqa ya kherraat waghera kertay hain .. mazeed kisi preshaani k anay se bachne k liay etc etc .
is soorat mai kia sirf janwar ki qurbaani ki jaati hai.... yeh sadqa hota hai ya kheraat ... aur kia yeh non-muslims ko nahi de saktay?


jaan k badlay jaan ka sadqah afzal hai ... yaani agar kissi aisay haadsay say bachay houN jiss maiN jaan jaa sakti thee aur bach gayee to shuranay maiN kissi maweshi (hasbay hasiyat) ko zabah karkay sadqah kia jasakta hai. sadqah ka janwer choTa bhi hosakta hai... yani baqar eid ki qurabani ki tarah kam az kam aik saal ka hona zaroori nahi...lekin sirf jaanwer ki qurabani zaroori nahi... raqam bhi sadqah ki jasakti hai.... kissi bhi pareeshani say nijaat aur boray khaab dekhnay k baad sadqah karna chahiyeh (go laazmi / wajib nahi)... mujhay yeh confirm nahi k sadqah non-muslim ko day saktay haiN yaa nahi........ agar kissi ko maloom ho to share karay... mujhay bhi confirm howa to arz kar dounga... eyeh sadqah hai ,,,, khairaat nahi........... khairaat iskay elawah hai jo deger zaroorat mandouN ko oskay maangnay par yaa beghair maangay dee jaye.
Abu Adnan
QUOTE(Uncertainty @ Jan 30 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]2694516[/snapback]
jee yeh baat to clear hai k zakaaat nahi di ja sakti un ko ... bata hai sadqay aur kheraat ki


khairaat to confirm hai k non-muslim ko dee jasakti hai aur deni chahiyeh... sadqah abhi mujhay confirm nahi
Uncertainty
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Jan 30 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]2694522[/snapback]
jaan k badlay jaan ka sadqah afzal hai ... yaani agar kissi aisay haadsay say bachay houN jiss maiN jaan jaa sakti thee aur bach gayee to shuranay maiN kissi maweshi (hasbay hasiyat) ko zabah karkay sadqah kia jasakta hai. sadqah ka janwer choTa bhi hosakta hai... yani baqar eid ki qurabani ki tarah kam az kam aik saal ka hona zaroori nahi...lekin sirf jaanwer ki qurabani zaroori nahi... raqam bhi sadqah ki jasakti hai.... kissi bhi pareeshani say nijaat aur boray khaab dekhnay k baad sadqah karna chahiyeh (go laazmi / wajib nahi)... mujhay yeh confirm nahi k sadqah non-muslim ko day saktay haiN yaa nahi........ agar kissi ko maloom ho to share karay... mujhay bhi confirm howa to arz kar dounga... eyeh sadqah hai ,,,, khairaat nahi........... khairaat iskay elawah hai jo deger zaroorat mandouN ko oskay maangnay par yaa beghair maangay dee jaye.


ahan ... sahi hai ... im waiting for someone who may clear this point.

aur aap se aik request hai Abu adnan bhai .. please aap font style change mat kia kijiay ... parhne mai dikkat hoti hai ... :$
Uncertainty
Daylight Bhai :aanounce:
Daylight
QUOTE(Uncertainty @ Jan 30 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]2694615[/snapback]
Daylight Bhai :aanounce:


Daylight ko awaaz di hai to phir detailed reply k liye tayaar rahiye smile.gif Mera yakeen hai k jo shakhs kuch haasil karne, kuch jaan-ne ki koshish mein hota hai wo zaroor parhta hai chahay lamba likha ho ya chhota, mukhtasir tareen jawab ye ho sakta tha k main haan ya na mein jawab de deta k non muslims ko di ja sakti hai ya nahin...... lekin ye jawab tasalli bakhsh na hota, jab mene apnay hath se itna lamba reply likh diya hai to umeed karta hon k aap issay parhein gi kyunke muje likhne mein jitna time laga hai apko ussay parhne mein aadhay se bhi kum time lagay ga smile.gif

Daylight
Ye baat ghalat hai k Zakat ya Sadqaat ya kheraat sirf muslims ko hi diye ja saktay hain .... Hamaray haan masla ye hai k hum ne bachpan se suna hota hai k falan cheez halal hai aur falan cheez haram, hum uss waqt chhotay hotay hain aur wohi baatein hamaray zehan mein raasikh ho jaati hain...... Hum uss waqt kisi se nahin poochtay aur na hi hamein itni sense hoti hai k hum pooch sakain k falan cheez agar haram hai to uska reference kya hai ? kis ne ussay haram qaraar diya hai ?? Allah ne ? Rasool(PBUH) ne ? ya ye ulama ki apni ikhtara'a hai....... Afsos hai k hamaray mulla ne halal o haram k apnay daftar khol rakhay hain aur ussay bus ye kehna hota hai k falan cheez halal hai falan haraam aur us k liye kisi reference ki zaroorat nahin hoti kyunke wo sahib apnay aap ko hi "reference" qarara detay hain....... Aur uss se bhi zyada afsos ki baat ye hai k jab hum baray ho jatay hain to tub bhi kisi se reference nahin maangtay k tum ne falan cheez ko haram kaha iska reference bhi to do, lekin shukar hai k ab aahista aahista logon mein iska shaoor paida ho raha hai.....

Main sub se pehle Quran ki baat karon ga uskay baad bakiyun ki....... meri appeal hai k apnay zehan ko pehle se kisi nazarriye par rakh kar Quran ko na dekhiye ga balkeh Quran ko dekh kar phir apna nazarriya banaiye ga..

Surah Tauba (9) Ayat (60)

Iss mein kaha gaya hai k Sadqaat k mandarja zail masarif hain (yani mandarja zail cheezon par sadqaat k paisay ko kharch kiya ja sakta hai)

1- Fuqaraa and Masakeen i.e. for the poor and the needy
2- aamileen `alaihaa i.e. on the people appointed for the collection and distribution of Sadqah
3- Al-Mo'allafah Quloobohum i.e. to win the loyalties of those who have the potential of becoming a danger for the Islamic state and thereby to soften their hearts toward Islam
4- Riqaab wal-Ghaarimeen: i.e. in freeing of slaves, bondsman and those under a financial burden due or debt
5- Sabeel Allah i.e. in all projects undertaken for the well being, promotion and security of Islam and the Muslims
6- Ibn al-Sabeel i.e. in projects undertaken for the welfare and benefit of the wayfarers/travellers.


Iss mein sub se pehle note krne ki cheez ye hai k Quran ne ye masarif Sadqaat k bataye hain Zakaat k nahin, Zakaat aur Sadqaat mein yakeenan farq hai aur Quran ne kayi jaga zakat aur sadqaat kay alfaaz use kiye hain, agar iss ayat mein Allah ki muraad Zakat k masarif bayaan karna hota to Allah k liye koi mushkil na tha k ayat k shuru mein "Innamal Sadaqaatu" likhne ki bajaye Zakaat likh deta........Lekin ulama ka kehna hai k nahin ye sadqaat k nahin zakaat k masarif hain, Kher iss behas ko hum chhortay hain warna baat kafi lambi ho jaye gi aur isko Zakaat k masarif maan kar hi baat kartay hain,


If you closely observe all the heads enlisted in the Qur'an (see above point 1 to 6), you shall see that for none of these heads does the Qur'an make it essential that the person to whom these funds are given should be a Muslim. For example, the Qur'an could have easily specified that the Zaka'h funds should be spent on the poor and the needy Muslims. On the contrary, however, we see that the poor and the needy, irrespective of their religious affiliations, are eligible to receive these funds. The same is the case of more or less all the other heads.



Ab opar point 3 ko zara dekhiye, inn masarif mein se ek masraf hai,
"Al-Mo'allafah Quloobohum" takreeban tamam k tamam ulama o fuqaha aur mufassireen ka ittefaq hai k iss mein non muslims shaamil hain...... Iskay bawajood ye kehna k zakat ghair muslims ko dena haram hai yakeenan valid reasons aur references maangta hai,
"Al-Mo'allafah Quloobohum" ka matlab hai k agar aap samajhtay hain k aap agar kisi non muslim ki financially madad karein gay aur wo apkay akhlaq aur mada ki wajah se islam k kareeb ho ga ya uska dil muslims ki taraf maail ho ga to aisay logon ko zakaat dene ka zikr iss masraf mein hai.......Mo'allafah Quloobohum ka matlab hota hai k unkay dil ko apni taraf maa'il kar lena......iss mein ye sub shaamil hain,

1. A person who, if given from zakah. may become a Muslim or may persuade his people to become Muslims. 2. A person who is hostile to Islam but, if given from zakah, he and others with him may keep quiet. 3. A newcomer to Islam, even if he is rich. The point here is that a newcomer may find certain difficulties. His family or his people may turn against him, and he may lose his job, or he may encounter other types of opposition. Financial assistance in such cases may go a long way to reassure him that he has made the right decision. 4. Some of the leading figures among the non-Muslims may be given from zakah in order to encourage others like them to become Muslims. 5. People who live in the border areas may also be given from zakah in order to encourage them to defend the borders, in case they are attacked by non-Muslims.


Iskay baad kuch fuqaha ne ye kaha k ab ye hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" mansookh hai yani ab iss masraf par zakat ka paisa kharch nahin kiya ja sakta, inn fuqaha mein shafaai aur hanfi maslak k ulama pesh pesh hain, jabke bakiyun ka opinion ye hai k ab bhi ye shiq qaaim hai iss liye k koi shakhs apni rai se Quran ki kisi ayat ya kisi hukam ko mansookh nahin kar sakta, maudodi sahib aur kayi doosray ulama yahi view rakhtay hain..... Jabke kuch ulama to non muslims ko zakat dene k itne mukhalif hain k wo kehtay hain k zakat k paisay se khareeda hua Quran bhi non muslims ko nahin diya ja sakta, koi unsay poochay k kya ye cheez qurani hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" mein nahin shaamil ?? kya unn kafiron ka dil apni taraf maail karnay k liye unko Quran ki taleem nahin di ja sakti ?? Aisa mutshaddad view rakhne waalon mein mufti taqi usmani sahib pesh pesh hain, u can read it
http://www.albalagh.net/qa/0030.shtml
Jabke shia hazraat ka view point maloom karnay k liye unki sub se authentic webiste al-islam ko dekha to wahan ye likha paaya k non muslim to ek taraf rahay kisi aisay shakhs ko bhi zakat nahin di ja sakti jo shia na ho yani sunniyun ko zakat dena bhi haram hai, i dont know k ye uss site ka apna point of view hai ya sub shias ka yahi viewpoint hai, lekin ye site sub se authentic shia site samjhi jati hai, it is written there
"It is necessary that the person to whom Zakat is paid is a Shi'ah Ithna'ashari. If, therefore, one pays Zakat to a person under the impression that he is a Shi'ah, and it transpires later that he is not a Shi'ah, one should pay Zakat again."
http://al-islam.org/laws/zakat2.html#1950


Ulama ne Qurani hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" ko mansookh kar k non muslims ko zakat na dene ka order jaari kiya, agarche kisi ayat ya kisi hadith mein ye nahin kaha gaya k non muslim ko zakat dena haram hai, i repeat.... kisi hadith mein bhi nahin kaha gaya k non muslim ko zakat dena haraam hai........ ( insan khata ka putla hai, agar mujh se aisi koi hadith miss hui hai to zaroor ussay pesh kiya jaye)
Ulama k paas sirf ek hadith hai jis ko pesh kar k wo non muslims ko zakat dena haram qarar detay hain, uss mein ye hai k Hazrat Muaaz(RA) ko jab yemen ka governer banaya gaya to Rasool(PBUH) ne mukhtalif hidayaat detay huay ye bhi farmaya k tumhara kaam ameer muslims se zakaat le kar ghareeb muslims par kharch karna hai" ....... Iss par ulama kehtay hain k dekho yahan "ghareeb muslims par k harch karnay ka kaha gaya hai", magar Qurani ayat mein jab sirf ghareeb ka lafz tha to tab koi nahin bola, tab kisi ko Quran yaad nahin aaya......Ab iss silsilay mein sub se pehle uss waqt k halaat dekhiye, Uss zamanay mein muslims se zakaat li jati thi aur non muslims se jazya (tax) muslims se jo maal liya jata wo muslims par hi kharch kar diya jata aur non muslims se jo maal liya jata wo unhi par kharch kar diya jata (Agarche non muslims ko dene ki rawayaat bhi majood hain jinka zikr ibn e katheer ne apni tafseer mein kiya hai)........ ye wajah thi hazrat Muaz(RA) ko ye hidayat dene ki......
Ab na islami hakumat rahi na jizya raha, lehaza chunke zakat k paisay khud se taqseem karne hain to unko unn tamaam masarif mein se jo Quran mein bayaan huay hain aur opar likhay gaye hain par kharch kiya ja sakta hai.......

Lekin agar awwaliyyat muslims ko di jaaye to zyada behtar hai it is preferable, agar koi itna ameer hai k zakat k ilava bhi ghareebo mein pesay taqseem kar sakta hai to preferably usko zakat ka pesa muslims par aur baqi paisa non muslims par kharch karna chaahiye, yaad rahay ye prefereable hai obligatory/laazmi nahin......
Farz karein k aap ko ek aisa shakhs milta hai jiski aur uskay khandaan ki haalat bouhat hi kharab hai, wo faaqon par guzara kar rahay hain aur aap ne zakat k pesay rakhay huay hain k ye main ghareebon ko don gi to aap uski madad karne se kya ye keh kar inkar kar dein gi k apkay paas sirf zakat k paisay hain aur wo main tumko nahin de sakti k tum non muslim ho lehaza maro bhookay tum bhi aur tumharay bachay bhi......... kya islam ka ye hukam ho sakta hai ??

Inhi masarif mein ek shik hai "fi sabeelillah" ye shik hai sirf muslims k liye, baqi ghareeb,masakeen aur jin k dilon ko maail kiya jaaye ye sub ghair muslim bhi ho saktay hain issi liye unkay sath muslim honay ki shart majood nahin, phir ek shik hai Riqaab wal-Ghaarimeen: i.e. in freeing of slaves iss mein bhi ghair muslim shaamil hain k hum kisi ghair muslim slave ko chhurwa dein iss se yakeenan uska dil islam ki taraf maail ho jaye ga, iskay ilawa wo hain jo kisi qarzay talay dabay huay hain , uss mein bhi non muslims ho saktay hain kyunke apkay iss iqdaam se bouhat mumkin hai k wo islam k kareeb aa jain.......iskay ilava travellers hain yani kisi musafir ki jaib cut jaye aur wo bay-yaaro madadgaar reh jaye to aap zakat k pesay se uski madad kar k usko uskay ghar pouhancha saktay hain yani usko ticket waghera le kar de saktay hain, iss par agar aap usko kahein k janab tum to christian ho aur mere paas zakat k pesay hain islam hamein kehta hai k christians ki zakat se madad na karo so sorry from my side to iss se uss shakhs ka islam k mutallik kya view banay ga ?? u know well smile.gif
Hospitals mein aksar dekha hai k ghareeb mareez agar muslim hai to uski zakat fund se madad kar di jaati hai lekin christian ghareeb mareez marr bhi raha ho aur uskay paas pesay na hon to usko marnay diya jata hai zakat fund se kuch nahin diya jata........ afsos k hamaray ulama k faislay islam par bhaari parr rahay hain.......


Abu Adnan
QUOTE(Uncertainty @ Jan 30 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]2694574[/snapback]
ahan ... sahi hai ... im waiting for someone who may clear this point.

aur aap se aik request hai Abu adnan bhai .. please aap font style change mat kia kijiay ... parhne mai dikkat hoti hai ... :$


per kaun sa font style readable nahi

blue wala

yaa green wala 1-quest.gif
Khalish
@ Daylight rose.gif Jazaat Allah rose.gif

Waise apni apni samajh ka phair hai ... MEHZ Allah SWT ki khushnoodi ki saee he hum ko usske qareeb ley jaa sakti hai.

Allah SWT, Usska Nabi SAW, aur Usski Kitaab ... tu saare aalam ke liye hai .. inper kisi ki koi ajara.daari nahi hai.
Kashif
QUOTE(Uncertainty @ Jan 30 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]2694510[/snapback]
kashif bhai mera sawal yeh nahi k deserving kon hai kon nahi .. yeh hai k non-muslims ko de saktay hain ya nahi ..

aaj kal jese christian maids hoti hain .. to kia un ki help krna lagta hi nahi? yaani kerni hi nahi chahiay k wo konsa laagu hai ...

im not clear i need detailed satisfying version of answer

humm
I think ab to aap ko detailed replies mil gayay hain smile.gif
Abu Adnan

Abu Adnan



Abu Adnan
Uncertainty
QUOTE(Daylight @ Jan 31 2008, 05:21 AM) [snapback]2695307[/snapback]
Daylight ko awaaz di hai to phir detailed reply k liye tayaar rahiye smile.gif Mera yakeen hai k jo shakhs kuch haasil karne, kuch jaan-ne ki koshish mein hota hai wo zaroor parhta hai chahay lamba likha ho ya chhota, mukhtasir tareen jawab ye ho sakta tha k main haan ya na mein jawab de deta k non muslims ko di ja sakti hai ya nahin...... lekin ye jawab tasalli bakhsh na hota, jab mene apnay hath se itna lamba reply likh diya hai to umeed karta hon k aap issay parhein gi kyunke muje likhne mein jitna time laga hai apko ussay parhne mein aadhay se bhi kum time lagay ga smile.gif


sure bhai y not ... y do u think that?

gonna read it ... wese bhi whether i reply or not ... i keep reading stuff over here and get beneficial knowledge and information .... though i miss more than i read cry.gif
Uncertainty
QUOTE(Daylight @ Jan 31 2008, 05:30 AM) [snapback]2695315[/snapback]
Ye baat ghalat hai k Zakat ya Sadqaat ya kheraat sirf muslims ko hi diye ja saktay hain .... Hamaray haan masla ye hai k hum ne bachpan se suna hota hai k falan cheez halal hai aur falan cheez haram, hum uss waqt chhotay hotay hain aur wohi baatein hamaray zehan mein raasikh ho jaati hain...... Hum uss waqt kisi se nahin poochtay aur na hi hamein itni sense hoti hai k hum pooch sakain k falan cheez agar haram hai to uska reference kya hai ? kis ne ussay haram qaraar diya hai ?? Allah ne ? Rasool(PBUH) ne ? ya ye ulama ki apni ikhtara'a hai....... Afsos hai k hamaray mulla ne halal o haram k apnay daftar khol rakhay hain aur ussay bus ye kehna hota hai k falan cheez halal hai falan haraam aur us k liye kisi reference ki zaroorat nahin hoti kyunke wo sahib apnay aap ko hi "reference" qarara detay hain....... Aur uss se bhi zyada afsos ki baat ye hai k jab hum baray ho jatay hain to tub bhi kisi se reference nahin maangtay k tum ne falan cheez ko haram kaha iska reference bhi to do, lekin shukar hai k ab aahista aahista logon mein iska shaoor paida ho raha hai.....

Main sub se pehle Quran ki baat karon ga uskay baad bakiyun ki....... meri appeal hai k apnay zehan ko pehle se kisi nazarriye par rakh kar Quran ko na dekhiye ga balkeh Quran ko dekh kar phir apna nazarriya banaiye ga..

Surah Tauba (9) Ayat (60)

Iss mein kaha gaya hai k Sadqaat k mandarja zail masarif hain (yani mandarja zail cheezon par sadqaat k paisay ko kharch kiya ja sakta hai)

1- Fuqaraa and Masakeen i.e. for the poor and the needy
2- aamileen `alaihaa i.e. on the people appointed for the collection and distribution of Sadqah
3- Al-Mo'allafah Quloobohum i.e. to win the loyalties of those who have the potential of becoming a danger for the Islamic state and thereby to soften their hearts toward Islam
4- Riqaab wal-Ghaarimeen: i.e. in freeing of slaves, bondsman and those under a financial burden due or debt
5- Sabeel Allah i.e. in all projects undertaken for the well being, promotion and security of Islam and the Muslims
6- Ibn al-Sabeel i.e. in projects undertaken for the welfare and benefit of the wayfarers/travellers.


Iss mein sub se pehle note krne ki cheez ye hai k Quran ne ye masarif Sadqaat k bataye hain Zakaat k nahin, Zakaat aur Sadqaat mein yakeenan farq hai aur Quran ne kayi jaga zakat aur sadqaat kay alfaaz use kiye hain, agar iss ayat mein Allah ki muraad Zakat k masarif bayaan karna hota to Allah k liye koi mushkil na tha k ayat k shuru mein "Innamal Sadaqaatu" likhne ki bajaye Zakaat likh deta........Lekin ulama ka kehna hai k nahin ye sadqaat k nahin zakaat k masarif hain, Kher iss behas ko hum chhortay hain warna baat kafi lambi ho jaye gi aur isko Zakaat k masarif maan kar hi baat kartay hain,


If you closely observe all the heads enlisted in the Qur'an (see above point 1 to 6), you shall see that for none of these heads does the Qur'an make it essential that the person to whom these funds are given should be a Muslim. For example, the Qur'an could have easily specified that the Zaka'h funds should be spent on the poor and the needy Muslims. On the contrary, however, we see that the poor and the needy, irrespective of their religious affiliations, are eligible to receive these funds. The same is the case of more or less all the other heads.



Ab opar point 3 ko zara dekhiye, inn masarif mein se ek masraf hai,
"Al-Mo'allafah Quloobohum" takreeban tamam k tamam ulama o fuqaha aur mufassireen ka ittefaq hai k iss mein non muslims shaamil hain...... Iskay bawajood ye kehna k zakat ghair muslims ko dena haram hai yakeenan valid reasons aur references maangta hai,
"Al-Mo'allafah Quloobohum" ka matlab hai k agar aap samajhtay hain k aap agar kisi non muslim ki financially madad karein gay aur wo apkay akhlaq aur mada ki wajah se islam k kareeb ho ga ya uska dil muslims ki taraf maail ho ga to aisay logon ko zakaat dene ka zikr iss masraf mein hai.......Mo'allafah Quloobohum ka matlab hota hai k unkay dil ko apni taraf maa'il kar lena......iss mein ye sub shaamil hain,

1. A person who, if given from zakah. may become a Muslim or may persuade his people to become Muslims. 2. A person who is hostile to Islam but, if given from zakah, he and others with him may keep quiet. 3. A newcomer to Islam, even if he is rich. The point here is that a newcomer may find certain difficulties. His family or his people may turn against him, and he may lose his job, or he may encounter other types of opposition. Financial assistance in such cases may go a long way to reassure him that he has made the right decision. 4. Some of the leading figures among the non-Muslims may be given from zakah in order to encourage others like them to become Muslims. 5. People who live in the border areas may also be given from zakah in order to encourage them to defend the borders, in case they are attacked by non-Muslims.


Iskay baad kuch fuqaha ne ye kaha k ab ye hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" mansookh hai yani ab iss masraf par zakat ka paisa kharch nahin kiya ja sakta, inn fuqaha mein shafaai aur hanfi maslak k ulama pesh pesh hain, jabke bakiyun ka opinion ye hai k ab bhi ye shiq qaaim hai iss liye k koi shakhs apni rai se Quran ki kisi ayat ya kisi hukam ko mansookh nahin kar sakta, maudodi sahib aur kayi doosray ulama yahi view rakhtay hain..... Jabke kuch ulama to non muslims ko zakat dene k itne mukhalif hain k wo kehtay hain k zakat k paisay se khareeda hua Quran bhi non muslims ko nahin diya ja sakta, koi unsay poochay k kya ye cheez qurani hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" mein nahin shaamil ?? kya unn kafiron ka dil apni taraf maail karnay k liye unko Quran ki taleem nahin di ja sakti ?? Aisa mutshaddad view rakhne waalon mein mufti taqi usmani sahib pesh pesh hain, u can read it
http://www.albalagh.net/qa/0030.shtml
Jabke shia hazraat ka view point maloom karnay k liye unki sub se authentic webiste al-islam ko dekha to wahan ye likha paaya k non muslim to ek taraf rahay kisi aisay shakhs ko bhi zakat nahin di ja sakti jo shia na ho yani sunniyun ko zakat dena bhi haram hai, i dont know k ye uss site ka apna point of view hai ya sub shias ka yahi viewpoint hai, lekin ye site sub se authentic shia site samjhi jati hai, it is written there
"It is necessary that the person to whom Zakat is paid is a Shi'ah Ithna'ashari. If, therefore, one pays Zakat to a person under the impression that he is a Shi'ah, and it transpires later that he is not a Shi'ah, one should pay Zakat again."
http://al-islam.org/laws/zakat2.html#1950


Ulama ne Qurani hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" ko mansookh kar k non muslims ko zakat na dene ka order jaari kiya, agarche kisi ayat ya kisi hadith mein ye nahin kaha gaya k non muslim ko zakat dena haram hai, i repeat.... kisi hadith mein bhi nahin kaha gaya k non muslim ko zakat dena haraam hai........ ( insan khata ka putla hai, agar mujh se aisi koi hadith miss hui hai to zaroor ussay pesh kiya jaye)
Ulama k paas sirf ek hadith hai jis ko pesh kar k wo non muslims ko zakat dena haram qarar detay hain, uss mein ye hai k Hazrat Muaaz(RA) ko jab yemen ka governer banaya gaya to Rasool(PBUH) ne mukhtalif hidayaat detay huay ye bhi farmaya k tumhara kaam ameer muslims se zakaat le kar ghareeb muslims par kharch karna hai" ....... Iss par ulama kehtay hain k dekho yahan "ghareeb muslims par k harch karnay ka kaha gaya hai", magar Qurani ayat mein jab sirf ghareeb ka lafz tha to tab koi nahin bola, tab kisi ko Quran yaad nahin aaya......Ab iss silsilay mein sub se pehle uss waqt k halaat dekhiye, Uss zamanay mein muslims se zakaat li jati thi aur non muslims se jazya (tax) muslims se jo maal liya jata wo muslims par hi kharch kar diya jata aur non muslims se jo maal liya jata wo unhi par kharch kar diya jata (Agarche non muslims ko dene ki rawayaat bhi majood hain jinka zikr ibn e katheer ne apni tafseer mein kiya hai)........ ye wajah thi hazrat Muaz(RA) ko ye hidayat dene ki......
Ab na islami hakumat rahi na jizya raha, lehaza chunke zakat k paisay khud se taqseem karne hain to unko unn tamaam masarif mein se jo Quran mein bayaan huay hain aur opar likhay gaye hain par kharch kiya ja sakta hai.......

Lekin agar awwaliyyat muslims ko di jaaye to zyada behtar hai it is preferable, agar koi itna ameer hai k zakat k ilava bhi ghareebo mein pesay taqseem kar sakta hai to preferably usko zakat ka pesa muslims par aur baqi paisa non muslims par kharch karna chaahiye, yaad rahay ye prefereable hai obligatory/laazmi nahin......
Farz karein k aap ko ek aisa shakhs milta hai jiski aur uskay khandaan ki haalat bouhat hi kharab hai, wo faaqon par guzara kar rahay hain aur aap ne zakat k pesay rakhay huay hain k ye main ghareebon ko don gi to aap uski madad karne se kya ye keh kar inkar kar dein gi k apkay paas sirf zakat k paisay hain aur wo main tumko nahin de sakti k tum non muslim ho lehaza maro bhookay tum bhi aur tumharay bachay bhi......... kya islam ka ye hukam ho sakta hai ??

Inhi masarif mein ek shik hai "fi sabeelillah" ye shik hai sirf muslims k liye, baqi ghareeb,masakeen aur jin k dilon ko maail kiya jaaye ye sub ghair muslim bhi ho saktay hain issi liye unkay sath muslim honay ki shart majood nahin, phir ek shik hai Riqaab wal-Ghaarimeen: i.e. in freeing of slaves iss mein bhi ghair muslim shaamil hain k hum kisi ghair muslim slave ko chhurwa dein iss se yakeenan uska dil islam ki taraf maail ho jaye ga, iskay ilawa wo hain jo kisi qarzay talay dabay huay hain , uss mein bhi non muslims ho saktay hain kyunke apkay iss iqdaam se bouhat mumkin hai k wo islam k kareeb aa jain.......iskay ilava travellers hain yani kisi musafir ki jaib cut jaye aur wo bay-yaaro madadgaar reh jaye to aap zakat k pesay se uski madad kar k usko uskay ghar pouhancha saktay hain yani usko ticket waghera le kar de saktay hain, iss par agar aap usko kahein k janab tum to christian ho aur mere paas zakat k pesay hain islam hamein kehta hai k christians ki zakat se madad na karo so sorry from my side to iss se uss shakhs ka islam k mutallik kya view banay ga ?? u know well smile.gif
Hospitals mein aksar dekha hai k ghareeb mareez agar muslim hai to uski zakat fund se madad kar di jaati hai lekin christian ghareeb mareez marr bhi raha ho aur uskay paas pesay na hon to usko marnay diya jata hai zakat fund se kuch nahin diya jata........ afsos k hamaray ulama k faislay islam par bhaari parr rahay hain.......



thank you bhai .. JazakAllah ... this is so helpful ... i was really wondering how can it be possible that we cannot pay alms to non-muslims. our concern should be towards needs of the people not the relegion.

Islam is the BEST EST of all relegions !
Uncertainty
Thank you abu adnan bhai ... JazakAllah ..... whats your point of view now? what you say?
Uncertainty
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Jan 31 2008, 07:19 AM) [snapback]2695385[/snapback]
per kaun sa font style readable nahi

blue wala

yaa green wala 1-quest.gif


color se koi problem nahi hai ... jo marzi use krain ... Font na change krain ya koi esa select ker lain jo easily readable ho ... chotay chotay replies ka masla nahi .. long texts parhne mai mushkil ati hai ...
Uncertainty
QUOTE(M Kashif Nisar @ Jan 31 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]2695437[/snapback]
humm
I think ab to aap ko detailed replies mil gayay hain smile.gif


yea Alhamdulillah yes.gif
Uncertainty
QUOTE(Daylight @ Jan 31 2008, 05:30 AM) [snapback]2695315[/snapback]
[/color][color="#4169e1"]Iskay baad kuch fuqaha ne ye kaha k ab ye hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" mansookh hai yani ab iss masraf par zakat ka paisa kharch nahin kiya ja sakta, inn fuqaha mein shafaai aur hanfi maslak k ulama pesh pesh hain, jabke bakiyun ka opinion ye hai k ab bhi ye shiq qaaim hai iss liye k koi shakhs apni rai se Quran ki kisi ayat ya kisi hukam ko mansookh nahin kar sakta, maudodi sahib aur kayi doosray ulama yahi view rakhtay hain..... Jabke kuch ulama to non muslims ko zakat dene k itne mukhalif hain k wo kehtay hain k zakat k paisay se khareeda hua Quran bhi non muslims ko nahin diya ja sakta, koi unsay poochay k kya ye cheez qurani hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" mein nahin shaamil ?? kya unn kafiron ka dil apni taraf maail karnay k liye unko Quran ki taleem nahin di ja sakti ?? Aisa mutshaddad view rakhne waalon mein mufti taqi usmani sahib pesh pesh hain, u can read it
http://www.albalagh.net/qa/0030.shtml


please tell kia Non-muslim ko Quran gift ker saktay hain? jabkeh Quran ko hath laganay k liay to Muslims ka Ba-wuzu hona zaroori hai .. while non-muslims don't perform this ablution.

yeh question filhal Zakat se hat ker hai...
Uncertainty
QUOTE(Daylight @ Jan 31 2008, 05:30 AM) [snapback]2695315[/snapback]
[/color][color="#4169e1"]Iskay baad kuch fuqaha ne ye kaha k ab ye hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" mansookh hai yani ab iss masraf par zakat ka paisa kharch nahin kiya ja sakta, inn fuqaha mein shafaai aur hanfi maslak k ulama pesh pesh hain, jabke bakiyun ka opinion ye hai k ab bhi ye shiq qaaim hai iss liye k koi shakhs apni rai se Quran ki kisi ayat ya kisi hukam ko mansookh nahin kar sakta, maudodi sahib aur kayi doosray ulama yahi view rakhtay hain..... Jabke kuch ulama to non muslims ko zakat dene k itne mukhalif hain k wo kehtay hain k zakat k paisay se khareeda hua Quran bhi non muslims ko nahin diya ja sakta, koi unsay poochay k kya ye cheez qurani hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" mein nahin shaamil ?? kya unn kafiron ka dil apni taraf maail karnay k liye unko Quran ki taleem nahin di ja sakti ?? Aisa mutshaddad view rakhne waalon mein mufti taqi usmani sahib pesh pesh hain, u can read it
http://www.albalagh.net/qa/0030.shtml


please tell kia Non-muslim ko Quran gift ker saktay hain? jabkeh Quran ko hath laganay k liay to Muslims ka Ba-wuzu hona zaroori hai .. while non-muslims don't perform this ablution.

yeh question filhal Zakat se hat ker hai...
Abu Adnan
QUOTE(Uncertainty @ Jan 31 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]2695885[/snapback]

please tell kia Non-muslim ko Quran gift ker saktay hain? jabkeh Quran ko hath laganay k liay to Muslims ka Ba-wuzu hona zaroori hai .. while non-muslims don't perform this ablution.

yeh question filhal Zakat se hat ker hai...


Dr. zakir says k quran non-muslim ko gift kia jasakta hai balkay karna chahiyeh specially wid translation. albatta ossay bata dain k yeh holy book hai, iska ehteraam karaiN... waisay bhi koi non-muslim market say quran easily hasil karsakta hai... onhaiN quran nah gift karnay koi logic banti nahi....

Quran paRhnay, issay haath laganay k liyeh wudu afzal zaroor hai, magar laazmi nahi. bahut say ulema kahtay haiN k bila wudu quran ko handle kia jasakta hai. albattah agar ghusal fard ho to quran ko haath nahi lagana chahiyeh aik muslim ko ... albatta agar koi quran ki taalebah / female ostaad ho jiskay liyeh daily quran ko haath lagaanaa paRhna zaroori ho to woh makhsoos ayyam maiN bhi quran ko handle karsakti hai. hifz ki taalebah k liyeh yeh khasoosi re.aa.yat hai.

jahaaN tak zakaat non-muslim ko denay ki baat hai to abhi mujhay iski mazeed tahqeeq karni hai. maiN daylight bhai ki baat ki tasdeeq karnay say qaasir houN. waisay bhi onki bataiN mixed hoti sahi-ghalat-sahi-ghalat ka mixture. behtar yeh hai kissi baat ki tahqeeq k liyeh apnay fiqhay k faqeeh / ulemaa say concerned kia jaye.
Daylight
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Jan 31 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]2695920[/snapback]
Dr. zakir says k quran non-muslim ko gift kia jasakta hai balkay karna chahiyeh specially wid translation. albatta ossay bata dain k yeh holy book hai, iska ehteraam karaiN... waisay bhi koi non-muslim market say quran easily hasil karsakta hai... onhaiN quran nah gift karnay koi logic banti nahi....

Quran paRhnay, issay haath laganay k liyeh wudu afzal zaroor hai, magar laazmi nahi. bahut say ulema kahtay haiN k bila wudu quran ko handle kia jasakta hai. albattah agar ghusal fard ho to quran ko haath nahi lagana chahiyeh aik muslim ko ... albatta agar koi quran ki taalebah / female ostaad ho jiskay liyeh daily quran ko haath lagaanaa paRhna zaroori ho to woh makhsoos ayyam maiN bhi quran ko handle karsakti hai. hifz ki taalebah k liyeh yeh khasoosi re.aa.yat hai.


Good explanation...

QUOTE
[size=4][color=#006400]jahaaN tak zakaat non-muslim ko denay ki baat hai to abhi mujhay iski mazeed tahqeeq karni hai. maiN daylight bhai ki baat ki tasdeeq karnay say qaasir houN. waisay bhi onki bataiN mixed hoti sahi-ghalat-sahi-ghalat ka mixture. behtar yeh hai kissi baat ki tahqeeq k liyeh apnay fiqhay k faqeeh / ulemaa say concerned kia jaye.


To aap daylight ki baat na sunain aap Quran ki ayaat khud mulahiza kar lein, apkay saamnay hain. Herat hai k aap Quran se concerned ki bajaye fiqhi ulama se concerned ka keh rahay hain, Allah ki kitab ka hukam to wazeh hai, Hamari haalat kahin wesi to nahin hoti ja rahi jesi Quran mein Allah ne mushrikeen ki batayi thi k unhon ne Allah ki kitab ko chhor kar apnay ulama o mashaikh ko "khuda" bana liya tha yani halal o haram k baray mein Allah ki kitab ki bajaye unka hukam maantay thay.....

Baki aap tehqeeq karein aur hamein bhi iss se agaah karein agar apko wakayi koi thoas wajah milti hai iss hukam ko mansookh karne ki....

Daylight
QUOTE(Khalish @ Jan 31 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]2695424[/snapback]
@ Daylight rose.gif Jazaat Allah rose.gif

Waise apni apni samajh ka phair hai ... MEHZ Allah SWT ki khushnoodi ki saee he hum ko usske qareeb ley jaa sakti hai.

Allah SWT, Usska Nabi SAW, aur Usski Kitaab ... tu saare aalam ke liye hai .. inper kisi ki koi ajara.daari nahi hai.


CODE
MEHZ Allah SWT ki khushnoodi ki saee he hum ko usske qareeb ley jaa sakti hai.


Bilkul, Allah hamein iski taufeeq de k hum doosron ki zyada se zyada madad kar sakain, Rasool(PBUH) insaniyat k liye rehmat thay na k sirf muslims k liye lehaza Allah hamein itni taufeeq de k hum na sirf apnay muslims bhaiyun ki madad kar sakain balkeh mazloom o majboor ghair muslim bhaiyun ki madad bhi kar sakain......
Daylight
Yahan par ye kaha gaya hai k kuch ulama o fuqaha ne Qurani hukam "Mo'allafah Quloobohum" ko mansookh kaha tha, uski zara tafseel mulahiza ho...... 4-5 page hain, kam az kam last page zaroor parhiye ga aur zara ghaour o fikar kijiye ga uss page par.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2dubibd.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/noycm8.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/261gaow.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/whimg8.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/5wh8jo.jpg







This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2008 Invision Power Services, Inc.