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tenha_saima
SalaaMz

Islam main mard ko ijazat hai non-muslim ko muslim kar k shaadi karne ka ... too aurat ko bhi yeh haq hai??

main ne kaheen sunna tha k aurat bhi allowed hai ... juz wanted to confirm !!!
Abu Adnan
QUOTE(tenha_saima @ Feb 1 2008, 05:12 AM) [snapback]2696921[/snapback]
SalaaMz

Islam main mard ko ijazat hai non-muslim ko muslim kar k shaadi karne ka ... too aurat ko bhi yeh haq hai??

main ne kaheen sunna tha k aurat bhi allowed hai ... juz wanted to confirm !!!


1. agar koi non-muslim mard, muslim hojata hai to koi bhi muslim lady iss nau muslim mard say shadi karsakti hai.

2. muslim lady dawat ka kaam to karsakti hai, magar sirf non-muslim ladies maiN, non-muslim mardouN maiN nahi. jab muslim ladies ko yeh 'allowed' nahi k woh naa.mahram muslim mardouN maiN ghulay milay to non-muslim mardouN say qareeb howay beghair ossay mosalmaan kaisay karsakti hai. wazah rahay kissi non-muslim ko mosalman karna, aik batad.reej aur mosalsal amal hai. aik aadh molaqaat maiN yeh mumkin nahi.

3. albattah agar 'by-default' koi muslim khatoon, kissi non-muslim mard k raabitay maiN ho, yaani oska koi realtive ho, oska koi paRosi ho, co-student ho, co-worker ho, net world maiN raabita ho ... to woh within limits maiN rahtay howay aisay non-muslim mard ko mosalmaan karnay ki koshish kar sakti hai. aur woh mard muslim hojaye to oss say shadi bhi karsakti hai.

4.iss ziman maiN muslim mardouN say 'moqaablah' / mosaabqat karnaa ... aik ghair fitree aur non-islamic behaviour hai. k kuch imteaaz to muslim mardouN ko khud Allah nay day rakha hai. jaisay woh baaz non-muslim ladies (non-mushrik ahlay kitab) say shadi karsakta hai, ossay mosalman kiyeh beghair ... aur baad maiN chaha to musalmaan bhi karsakta hai... kissi momin lady to yeh 'sahoolat' hasil nahi.......
Sham_99
Wa'alaikum Assalam



wesay to dear adnan bhai nay bohat detail say jawab dia hay lakin yaad rakhiye ga mard non-muslim ko muslim kar k hi nahi bul k ahl e kitab non-muslim say bhi shadi ker sakta hay:) a person asked ur half question to Dr. Zakir Naik........he gave detailed answer..…may it help u




Question: Can a Muslim man marry a Christian or a Jew? Please explain



It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a woman from the People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians), only if they fulfill certain criteria. Allah (swt) says:

"And (Lawful in marriage are) chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you…"

[Surah Al-Maidah 5:5]



Based on the above verse, most of the scholars say that a Muslim man can marry any woman who is a Jew or a Christian. On the other hand, if we read the Qur'an as a whole, Allah (swt) also says that Muslims are not allowed to marry Mushriks i.e. people who associate partners with Allah (swt).

"And do not marry Mushrik (polytheistic) women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you."

[Surah Al-Baqarah 2:221]



Moreover, we find that the Jews and the Christians too associate partners with Allah (swt). Says Allah (swt) in the Glorious Qur'an:

"They (Jews and the Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and (also) the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him." [Surah At-Tawbah 9:31]



The Christians, who claim that Jesus (pbuh) is God as well as the Son of God, insist on the supposed divinity of Jesus (pbuh) and worship him as such.

"They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed he who associates other with Allah – Allah has forbidden him paradise and his refuge is the fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers." [Surah Al-Maidah 5:72]



From the above-mentioned verses and many such verses of the Qur'an, it is very clear that almost all the present day Jews and the Christians are committing shirk by joining partners with Allah (swt).



Apparently, it appears to be a "contradiction" in the Qur'an, since at one place Allah (swt) forbids Muslims from marrying Mushriks, whereas at another place He allows Muslim men to marry women from the Jews and the Christians, most of who as per the Qur'anic narrations are Mushriks too i.e. those who associate partners with Allah (swt).



In another verse of the Glorious Qur'an, Allah (swt) conciliates all the above verses by informing us that among the Jews and the Christians there are also people who are true believers i.e. they believe in only one God and do not associate partners with Allah (swt). It says,

"Among them (Jews and the Christians) are believers but most of them are defiantly disobedient." [Surah Ali Imran 3:110]



Therefore, according to me, Muslim men are permitted to marry only those women from the People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians) who are chaste as well as who do not commit shirk i.e. those who do not believe in trinity and Jesus' (pbuh) divinity. And Allah Knows the Best.

yad rakhiye.......yeh opinion islam k ek ja'edd alam ki hay.


Abu Adnan
QUOTE(Sham_99 @ Feb 1 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]2696971[/snapback]
Wa'alaikum Assalam



wesay to dear adnan bhai nay bohat detail say jawab dia hay lakin yaad rakhiye ga mard non-muslim ko muslim kar k hi nahi bul k ahl e kitab non-muslim say bhi shadi ker sakta hay:) a person asked ur half question to Dr. Zakir Naik........he gave detailed answer..…may it help u




Question: Can a Muslim man marry a Christian or a Jew? Please explain



It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a woman from the People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians), only if they fulfill certain criteria. Allah (swt) says:

"And (Lawful in marriage are) chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you…"

[Surah Al-Maidah 5:5]



Based on the above verse, most of the scholars say that a Muslim man can marry any woman who is a Jew or a Christian. On the other hand, if we read the Qur'an as a whole, Allah (swt) also says that Muslims are not allowed to marry Mushriks i.e. people who associate partners with Allah (swt).

"And do not marry Mushrik (polytheistic) women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you."

[Surah Al-Baqarah 2:221]



Moreover, we find that the Jews and the Christians too associate partners with Allah (swt). Says Allah (swt) in the Glorious Qur'an:

"They (Jews and the Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and (also) the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him." [Surah At-Tawbah 9:31]



The Christians, who claim that Jesus (pbuh) is God as well as the Son of God, insist on the supposed divinity of Jesus (pbuh) and worship him as such.

"They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed he who associates other with Allah – Allah has forbidden him paradise and his refuge is the fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers." [Surah Al-Maidah 5:72]



From the above-mentioned verses and many such verses of the Qur'an, it is very clear that almost all the present day Jews and the Christians are committing shirk by joining partners with Allah (swt).



Apparently, it appears to be a "contradiction" in the Qur'an, since at one place Allah (swt) forbids Muslims from marrying Mushriks, whereas at another place He allows Muslim men to marry women from the Jews and the Christians, most of who as per the Qur'anic narrations are Mushriks too i.e. those who associate partners with Allah (swt).



In another verse of the Glorious Qur'an, Allah (swt) conciliates all the above verses by informing us that among the Jews and the Christians there are also people who are true believers i.e. they believe in only one God and do not associate partners with Allah (swt). It says,

"Among them (Jews and the Christians) are believers but most of them are defiantly disobedient." [Surah Ali Imran 3:110]



Therefore, according to me, Muslim men are permitted to marry only those women from the People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians) who are chaste as well as who do not commit shirk i.e. those who do not believe in trinity and Jesus' (pbuh) divinity. And Allah Knows the Best.

yad rakhiye.......yeh opinion islam k ek ja'edd alam ki hay.



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Kashif
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Feb 1 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]2696936[/snapback]
1. agar koi non-muslim mard, muslim hojata hai to koi bhi muslim lady iss nau muslim mard say shadi karsakti hai.

2. muslim lady dawat ka kaam to karsakti hai, magar sirf non-muslim ladies maiN, non-muslim mardouN maiN nahi. jab muslim ladies ko yeh 'allowed' nahi k woh naa.mahram muslim mardouN maiN ghulay milay to non-muslim mardouN say qareeb howay beghair ossay mosalmaan kaisay karsakti hai. wazah rahay kissi non-muslim ko mosalman karna, aik batad.reej aur mosalsal amal hai. aik aadh molaqaat maiN yeh mumkin nahi.

3. albattah agar 'by-default' koi muslim khatoon, kissi non-muslim mard k raabitay maiN ho, yaani oska koi realtive ho, oska koi paRosi ho, co-student ho, co-worker ho, net world maiN raabita ho ... to woh within limits maiN rahtay howay aisay non-muslim mard ko mosalmaan karnay ki koshish kar sakti hai. aur woh mard muslim hojaye to oss say shadi bhi karsakti hai.

4.iss ziman maiN muslim mardouN say 'moqaablah' / mosaabqat karnaa ... aik ghair fitree aur non-islamic behaviour hai. k kuch imteaaz to muslim mardouN ko khud Allah nay day rakha hai. jaisay woh baaz non-muslim ladies (non-mushrik ahlay kitab) say shadi karsakta hai, ossay mosalman kiyeh beghair ... aur baad maiN chaha to musalmaan bhi karsakta hai... kissi momin lady to yeh 'sahoolat' hasil nahi.......

very well replied smile.gif
Daylight
QUOTE
1. agar koi non-muslim mard, muslim hojata hai to koi bhi muslim lady iss nau muslim mard say shadi karsakti hai.

2. muslim lady dawat ka kaam to karsakti hai, magar sirf non-muslim ladies maiN, non-muslim mardouN maiN nahi. jab muslim ladies ko yeh 'allowed' nahi k woh naa.mahram muslim mardouN maiN ghulay milay to non-muslim mardouN say qareeb howay beghair ossay mosalmaan kaisay karsakti hai. wazah rahay kissi non-muslim ko mosalman karna, aik batad.reej aur mosalsal amal hai. aik aadh molaqaat maiN yeh mumkin nahi.

3. albattah agar 'by-default' koi muslim khatoon, kissi non-muslim mard k raabitay maiN ho, yaani oska koi realtive ho, oska koi paRosi ho, co-student ho, co-worker ho, net world maiN raabita ho ... to woh within limits maiN rahtay howay aisay non-muslim mard ko mosalmaan karnay ki koshish kar sakti hai. aur woh mard muslim hojaye to oss say shadi bhi karsakti hai.

4.iss ziman maiN muslim mardouN say 'moqaablah' / mosaabqat karnaa ... aik ghair fitree aur non-islamic behaviour hai. k kuch imteaaz to muslim mardouN ko khud Allah nay day rakha hai. jaisay woh baaz non-muslim ladies (non-mushrik ahlay kitab) say shadi karsakta hai, ossay mosalman kiyeh beghair ... aur baad maiN chaha to musalmaan bhi karsakta hai... kissi momin lady to yeh 'sahoolat' hasil nahi......



Achha reply hai but not to the point smile.gif Asal baat jo poochi gai hai wo to kahin beech mein hi reh gai aur aap doosron ko musalmaan kesay banatay hain k chakkar mein par gaye smile.gif

Haan aap ne last half sentence mein asal sawal ka jawab likha hai aur kaha hai

"kissi momin lady to yeh 'sahoolat' hasil nahi....."

Lekin aap ne kisi ayat ya hadith ka hawala dena munasib nahin samjha jis mein iss sahoolat se mana kiya gaya ho, shaaid aap aisa karna bhool gaye hon, may be next post mein reference de dein smile.gif
Daylight
QUOTE(Sham_99 @ Feb 1 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]2696971[/snapback]
Wa'alaikum Assalam



wesay to dear adnan bhai nay bohat detail say jawab dia hay lakin yaad rakhiye ga mard non-muslim ko muslim kar k hi nahi bul k ahl e kitab non-muslim say bhi shadi ker sakta hay:) a person asked ur half question to Dr. Zakir Naik........he gave detailed answer..…may it help u




Question: Can a Muslim man marry a Christian or a Jew? Please explain



It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a woman from the People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians), only if they fulfill certain criteria. Allah (swt) says:

"And (Lawful in marriage are) chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you…"

[Surah Al-Maidah 5:5]



Based on the above verse, most of the scholars say that a Muslim man can marry any woman who is a Jew or a Christian. On the other hand, if we read the Qur'an as a whole, Allah (swt) also says that Muslims are not allowed to marry Mushriks i.e. people who associate partners with Allah (swt).

"And do not marry Mushrik (polytheistic) women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you."

[Surah Al-Baqarah 2:221]



Moreover, we find that the Jews and the Christians too associate partners with Allah (swt). Says Allah (swt) in the Glorious Qur'an:

"They (Jews and the Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and (also) the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him." [Surah At-Tawbah 9:31]



The Christians, who claim that Jesus (pbuh) is God as well as the Son of God, insist on the supposed divinity of Jesus (pbuh) and worship him as such.

"They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed he who associates other with Allah – Allah has forbidden him paradise and his refuge is the fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers." [Surah Al-Maidah 5:72]



From the above-mentioned verses and many such verses of the Qur'an, it is very clear that almost all the present day Jews and the Christians are committing shirk by joining partners with Allah (swt).



Apparently, it appears to be a "contradiction" in the Qur'an, since at one place Allah (swt) forbids Muslims from marrying Mushriks, whereas at another place He allows Muslim men to marry women from the Jews and the Christians, most of who as per the Qur'anic narrations are Mushriks too i.e. those who associate partners with Allah (swt).



In another verse of the Glorious Qur'an, Allah (swt) conciliates all the above verses by informing us that among the Jews and the Christians there are also people who are true believers i.e. they believe in only one God and do not associate partners with Allah (swt). It says,

"Among them (Jews and the Christians) are believers but most of them are defiantly disobedient." [Surah Ali Imran 3:110]



Therefore, according to me, Muslim men are permitted to marry only those women from the People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians) who are chaste as well as who do not commit shirk i.e. those who do not believe in trinity and Jesus' (pbuh) divinity. And Allah Knows the Best.

yad rakhiye.......yeh opinion islam k ek ja'edd alam ki hay.



Agarche ye uss sawal ka jawab nahin jo poocha gaya hai lekin bouhat hi umda aur maloomaati post hai, thanx


CODE
yad rakhiye.......yeh opinion islam k ek ja'edd alam ki hay.


I dont think so, ye kisi aalim ki "rai" nahin balkeh Quran ka hukam hai aur dono baaton mein bouhat farq hai smile.gif
Daylight
Parwez sahib hon, maudodi sahib hon ya taqi usmanni sahib hon ye sub iss baat k qaail hain k muslim khatoon ghair muslim mard se shadi nahin kar sakti magar afsos k inn mein se hawala koi bhi nahin deta.......

Kisi ko iska reference milay to yahan zaroor pesh karay.
raat ki rani
hmmm yeh topic aya hai tau mein bhi kuch share karna chahOn gi... aik bar aik aaliM(pakistani) ko Mein ney tv per kehtey suna k non musim sey shadi ki ijazat Allah ney Quran Mein srif mard ko di althOugh aurat kO ijazat nhi di magar Mana bhi nhi kia is liye aurat bhi nOn MusliM sey shadi kar sakti hai agar wOh ehl e kitaab hOn tau dunno.gif
Daylight
QUOTE(raat ki rani @ Feb 1 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]2697769[/snapback]
hmmm yeh topic aya hai tau mein bhi kuch share karna chahOn gi... aik bar aik aaliM(pakistani) ko Mein ney tv per kehtey suna k non musim sey shadi ki ijazat Allah ney Quran Mein srif mard ko di althOugh aurat kO ijazat nhi di magar Mana bhi nhi kia is liye aurat bhi nOn MusliM sey shadi kar sakti hai agar wOh ehl e kitaab hOn tau dunno.gif


Aap ne jis baat ki taraf ishara kiya hai wo surah Al Maida ki ayat number 5 hai aur opar meine jin scholars k naam likhay wo issi ayat k hawalay se isko haram batatay hain magar muje samajh nahin lagi k unho ne iss ayat se kesay ye nateeja nikala,

Ayat 5/5 read as:

"This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food of those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them; and the chaste from among the believing women and the chaste from among those who have been given the Book before you (are lawful for you); when you have given them their dowries, taking (them) in marriage, not fornicating nor taking them for paramours in secret; and whoever denies faith, his work indeed is of no account, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."

Looking for more clarification from someone else.

asim10
asa
mera khiyal hay is ayat say baat kafee wazaih ho jaa aiy ghee. inshallah . ALLAH hidayat dainay wala.

وَلَا تَنكِحُواْ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكَـٰتِ حَتَّیٰ يُؤۡمِنَّۚ وَلَأَمَةُُ مُّؤۡمِنَةٌ خَيۡرُُ مِّن مُّشۡرِكَةِِ وَلَوۡ أَعۡجَبَتۡكُمۡۗ وَلَا تُنكِحُواْ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ حَتَّیٰ يُؤۡمِنُواْۚ وَلَعَبۡدُُ مُّؤۡمِنٌ خَيۡرُُ مِّن مُّشۡرِكِِ وَلَوۡ أَعۡجَبَكُمۡۗ أُوْلَـٰۤٮِٕكَ يَدۡعُونَ إِلَی ٱلنَّارِۖ وَٱللَّهُ
يَدۡعُوۤاْ إِلَی ٱلۡجَنَّةِ وَٱلۡمَغۡفِرَةِ بِإِذۡنِهِۧۖ وَيُبَيِّنُ ءَايَـٰتِهِۧ لِلنَّاسِ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَتَذَكَّرُونَ﴿٢٢١﴾


[b] اور (مومنو) مشرک عورتوں سے جب تک کہ ایمان نہ لائیں نکاح نہ کرنا۔ کیونکہ مشرک عورت خواہ تم کو کیسی ہی بھلی لگے اس سے مومن لونڈی بہتر ہے۔ اور مشرک مرد جب تک ایمان نہ لائیں مومن عورتوں کو ان کو زوجیت میں نہ دینا کیونکہ مشرک (مرد) سے خواہ وہ تم کو کیسا ہی بھلا لگے مومن غلام بہتر ہے۔ یہ (مشرک لوگوں کو) دوزخ کی طرف بلاتے ہیں۔ اور خدا اپنی مہربانی سے بہشت اور بخشش کی طرف بلاتا ہے۔ اور اپنے حکم لوگوں سے کھول کھول کر بیان کرتا ہے تاکہ نصیحت حاصل کریں <۲۲۱>[/b]
Daylight
Asim bhai iss ayat mein MUSHRIK ki baat ki gai hai aur jis tarha mushrik mard se shadi haram qarar di gai hai wesay hi mushrik aurat se bhi haram qarar di gai hai....... Jabke iss topic mein mushrik nahin ehl e kitab mard se muslim aurat ki shadi ki baat ho rahi hai.......


Mera nahin khyal k kisi ayat mein iss se mana kiya gaya hai,


Any Hadith ???
asim10
asa
in dono ayat ko mila kar daikh lain to baat saaf zahir hay kay na sorah maida kay ayat main auoratoon ka zikar hay sirf mard ka zikar hay .agar aour toon kay leeyai bhee is qisam ke ejazat hotee to zaroor bil zaroor is ka bhee zikar hota.
aour jo ayat main nay paish kee us main too don yani mard aour aourtoon ka zikar mojod hay. is say saaf zahir hay kay mard ko ejazat hay aour aourat ko nahin .
rahe baat hadith kee too is waqat to maraiy pass books nahin hay haan dekh kar shayad kuch bayan kar sakoon.
Sham_99
QUOTE(Daylight @ Feb 1 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]2697601[/snapback]
CODE
[b][size="3"]Therefore, according to me, Muslim men are permitted to marry only those women from the People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians) who are chaste as well as who do not commit [i]shirk[/i] i.e. those who do not believe in trinity and Jesus' (pbuh) divinity. And Allah Knows the Best.[/size][/b]

yad rakhiye.......yeh opinion islam k ek ja'edd alam ki hay.


I dont think so, ye kisi aalim ki "rai" nahin balkeh Quran ka hukam hai aur dono baaton mein bouhat farq hai smile.gif


Assalam o Alaikum

Bhai Mr. Naik nay Quran ka hukam pehlay khol k bayan ker dia hay aur end main apni opinion di hay.........jis ko main nay highlight kia........faraq saf zahir hay smile.gif

SuNsHiNe*
Nice topic Saima ji....I was also desperate to know about it.....Jazaak Allah khair!!!!!
silenteyes
QUOTE(asim10 @ Feb 2 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]2698196[/snapback]
in dono ayat ko mila kar daikh lain to baat saaf zahir hay kay na sorah maida kay ayat main auoratoon ka zikar hay sirf mard ka zikar hay .agar aour toon kay leeyai bhee is qisam ke ejazat hotee to zaroor bil zaroor is ka bhee zikar hota.
aour jo ayat main nay paish kee us main too don yani mard aour aourtoon ka zikar mojod hay. is say saaf zahir hay kay mard ko ejazat hay aour aourat ko nahin .


mera bhi yahi view hai.....
Abu Adnan
QUOTE(raat ki rani @ Feb 1 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]2697769[/snapback]
hmmm yeh topic aya hai tau mein bhi kuch share karna chahOn gi... aik bar aik aaliM(pakistani) ko Mein ney tv per kehtey suna k non musim sey shadi ki ijazat Allah ney Quran Mein srif mard ko di althOugh aurat kO ijazat nhi di magar Mana bhi nhi kia is liye aurat bhi nOn MusliM sey shadi kar sakti hai agar wOh ehl e kitaab hOn tau dunno.gif


'ajmaa.ay' ummat yehi hai k meslim aurat kissi ahlay kitaab mard say shadi nahi karsakti. agar aisaa hota to iski misaalaiN ahday resaalat / ahday khelafatay raashida etc maiN zaroor milteeN. "aik aalim' to kuch bhi kah sakta hai. lekin ulemaa ki aksariyat kabhi kissi anti islamic baat par muttafiq nahi hosakti. nah hi aap k mazkoorah 'aalim' ki baat par muttafiq hai.

waisay to aajkal (so called) muslim females 'ahlay kitaab' kia hindoos say bhi shadiaaN kar rahi haiN. inkay pass bhi koi nah koi mantiq /jawaaz to hoga hi. coz har fard apnay amal ko 'durust' samajhta hai aur iski 'daleel' bhi rakhta hai.... jaisay iss 'dehati' k pass......

aik dehati aik molvi k pass gayaa aur poocha: molbi sb ki wazoo k beghair namaaz hojati hai... molvi sb nay kahaa... nahi, beghair wazoo k namaaz nahi hosakti... dehaati bola mobi sb tussi ghalat kainday o' maiN khud bina wazoo namaaz paRhee see ... tay ho gayee see..... E9.gif E9.gif yeh sirf aik dehati ki hi mantiq nahi... balkay paRhay likhay log aur baaz so called aalim bhi aisee hi 'mantiq' k tehat fatwaa jaari kartay rahay haiN aur kartay rahengay.
tenha_saima
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Feb 1 2008, 02:52 AM) [snapback]2696936[/snapback]
1. agar koi non-muslim mard, muslim hojata hai to koi bhi muslim lady iss nau muslim mard say shadi karsakti hai.

2. muslim lady dawat ka kaam to karsakti hai, magar sirf non-muslim ladies maiN, non-muslim mardouN maiN nahi. jab muslim ladies ko yeh 'allowed' nahi k woh naa.mahram muslim mardouN maiN ghulay milay to non-muslim mardouN say qareeb howay beghair ossay mosalmaan kaisay karsakti hai. wazah rahay kissi non-muslim ko mosalman karna, aik batad.reej aur mosalsal amal hai. aik aadh molaqaat maiN yeh mumkin nahi.

3. albattah agar 'by-default' koi muslim khatoon, kissi non-muslim mard k raabitay maiN ho, yaani oska koi realtive ho, oska koi paRosi ho, co-student ho, co-worker ho, net world maiN raabita ho ... to woh within limits maiN rahtay howay aisay non-muslim mard ko mosalmaan karnay ki koshish kar sakti hai. aur woh mard muslim hojaye to oss say shadi bhi karsakti hai.

4.iss ziman maiN muslim mardouN say 'moqaablah' / mosaabqat karnaa ... aik ghair fitree aur non-islamic behaviour hai. k kuch imteaaz to muslim mardouN ko khud Allah nay day rakha hai. jaisay woh baaz non-muslim ladies (non-mushrik ahlay kitab) say shadi karsakta hai, ossay mosalman kiyeh beghair ... aur baad maiN chaha to musalmaan bhi karsakta hai... kissi momin lady to yeh 'sahoolat' hasil nahi.......



point 1 answers mahh question ..

point 4 has left me confused... how can a muslim man b allowed to marry a non-muslim?????? koi hadith hai?
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QUOTE(Sham_99 @ Feb 1 2008, 03:40 AM) [snapback]2696971[/snapback]
Wa'alaikum Assalam

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wesay to dear adnan bhai nay bohat detail say jawab dia hay lakin yaad rakhiye ga mard non-muslim ko muslim kar k hi nahi bul k ahl e kitab non-muslim say bhi shadi ker sakta hay:) a person asked ur half question to Dr. Zakir Naik........he gave detailed answer..…may it help u




Question: Can a Muslim man marry a Christian or a Jew? Please explain



It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a woman from the People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians), only if they fulfill certain criteria. Allah (swt) says:

"And (Lawful in marriage are) chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you…"

[Surah Al-Maidah 5:5]



Based on the above verse, most of the scholars say that a Muslim man can marry any woman who is a Jew or a Christian. On the other hand, if we read the Qur'an as a whole, Allah (swt) also says that Muslims are not allowed to marry Mushriks i.e. people who associate partners with Allah (swt).

"And do not marry Mushrik (polytheistic) women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you."

[Surah Al-Baqarah 2:221]



Moreover, we find that the Jews and the Christians too associate partners with Allah (swt). Says Allah (swt) in the Glorious Qur'an:

"They (Jews and the Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and (also) the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him." [Surah At-Tawbah 9:31]



The Christians, who claim that Jesus (pbuh) is God as well as the Son of God, insist on the supposed divinity of Jesus (pbuh) and worship him as such.

"They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed he who associates other with Allah – Allah has forbidden him paradise and his refuge is the fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers." [Surah Al-Maidah 5:72]



From the above-mentioned verses and many such verses of the Qur'an, it is very clear that almost all the present day Jews and the Christians are committing shirk by joining partners with Allah (swt).



Apparently, it appears to be a "contradiction" in the Qur'an, since at one place Allah (swt) forbids Muslims from marrying Mushriks, whereas at another place He allows Muslim men to marry women from the Jews and the Christians, most of who as per the Qur'anic narrations are Mushriks too i.e. those who associate partners with Allah (swt).



In another verse of the Glorious Qur'an, Allah (swt) conciliates all the above verses by informing us that among the Jews and the Christians there are also people who are true believers i.e. they believe in only one God and do not associate partners with Allah (swt). It says,

"Among them (Jews and the Christians) are believers but most of them are defiantly disobedient." [Surah Ali Imran 3:110]



Therefore, according to me, Muslim men are permitted to marry only those women from the People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians) who are chaste as well as who do not commit shirk i.e. those who do not believe in trinity and Jesus' (pbuh) divinity. And Allah Knows the Best.

[size="4"]yad rakhiye.......yeh opinion islam k ek ja'edd alam ki hay.


he sure is a great scholar n goes in depth of everythin.... appriciatable reply !!

mujhe jo confusion hoa tha .. adnan bhai k reply se woo ab clear hai .. cuz muslim men can marry true* jews n christens ( which r hard to find) n hav faith in One God ... but not the ones who do shirk ( which majority does now)
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QUOTE(raat ki rani @ Feb 1 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]2697769[/snapback]
hmmm yeh topic aya hai tau mein bhi kuch share karna chahOn gi... aik bar aik aaliM(pakistani) ko Mein ney tv per kehtey suna k non musim sey shadi ki ijazat Allah ney Quran Mein srif mard ko di althOugh aurat kO ijazat nhi di magar Mana bhi nhi kia is liye aurat bhi nOn MusliM sey shadi kar sakti hai agar wOh ehl e kitaab hOn tau dunno.gif



for women .. the person has to convert to islam

for men ... its ezier to convert to islam othawise sari detail main jaoo k one belives in one God only ...
tenha_saima
QUOTE(asim10 @ Feb 1 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]2698196[/snapback]
asa
in dono ayat ko mila kar daikh lain to baat saaf zahir hay kay na sorah maida kay ayat main auoratoon ka zikar hay sirf mard ka zikar hay .agar aour toon kay leeyai bhee is qisam ke ejazat hotee to zaroor bil zaroor is ka bhee zikar hota.
aour jo ayat main nay paish kee us main too don yani mard aour aourtoon ka zikar mojod hay. is say saaf zahir hay kay mard ko ejazat hay aour aourat ko nahin .
rahe baat hadith kee too is waqat to maraiy pass books nahin hay haan dekh kar shayad kuch bayan kar sakoon.


muslim aurat.... non-muslim ko muslim karne k baad bhi shaadi nahien kar sakti ?????? :S
tenha_saima
QUOTE(SuNsHiNe* @ Feb 19 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]2731216[/snapback]
Nice topic Saima ji....I was also desperate to know about it.....Jazaak Allah khair!!!!!



i hope u got ur answer .. smile.gif
tenha_saima
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Feb 20 2008, 03:18 AM) [snapback]2732326[/snapback]
'ajmaa.ay' ummat yehi hai k meslim aurat kissi ahlay kitaab mard say shadi nahi karsakti. agar aisaa hota to iski misaalaiN ahday resaalat / ahday khelafatay raashida etc maiN zaroor milteeN. "aik aalim' to kuch bhi kah sakta hai. lekin ulemaa ki aksariyat kabhi kissi anti islamic baat par muttafiq nahi hosakti. nah hi aap k mazkoorah 'aalim' ki baat par muttafiq hai.

waisay to aajkal (so called) muslim females 'ahlay kitaab' kia hindoos say bhi shadiaaN kar rahi haiN. inkay pass bhi koi nah koi mantiq /jawaaz to hoga hi. coz har fard apnay amal ko 'durust' samajhta hai aur iski 'daleel' bhi rakhta hai.... jaisay iss 'dehati' k pass......

aik dehati aik molvi k pass gayaa aur poocha: molbi sb ki wazoo k beghair namaaz hojati hai... molvi sb nay kahaa... nahi, beghair wazoo k namaaz nahi hosakti... dehaati bola mobi sb tussi ghalat kainday o' maiN khud bina wazoo namaaz paRhee see ... tay ho gayee see..... E9.gif E9.gif yeh sirf aik dehati ki hi mantiq nahi... balkay paRhay likhay log aur baaz so called aalim bhi aisee hi 'mantiq' k tehat fatwaa jaari kartay rahay haiN aur kartay rahengay.


yahaan sirf baat muslim aurat ki kisi non-muslim ko convert kar k shaadi karne ki ho rahi hai ... smile.gif

waisse too duniya main bara kuch ho raha hia ... non muslims se shaadi bhi issi main hai jis ki koi reason hi nahien ahi ..
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