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Forever Green
Salaam dosto, Sathiyon Te Sajanonnn frndz.gif

Yesterday i had a conversation wid sum of ma colleagues abt "How should we raised our children" What should we have to keep in mind while Raising them ...

Specially for da parents who r away from dere country and cant show reall values of their culture and religion to their kids....

What should be da Motivative dat children can easyly pick without any hesitation?

I was all confused cuz dosnt matter how u r raising ur kids at home, dosnt matter how much Islamic views r u putting in dere mins, Once they start going to school, every thing start gettin messed up... cuz in schools ...kids from all religion , each society, n each country come dere... dey see dem ...dey see their freedom n wen dey cum back home start questioning abt dere freedom (well pplz here think dere r too many restrictions in Islam)...

Please put in ur precious views to help parents out of country or also in Pakistan ..
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Forever Green
Kissi ke pass bhi Jawab nahi meri baat ka cry.gif
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hahahaha lemme think den rply frndz.gif
Forever Green
okay ....... Waitin 105.gif
Uncertainty
sawal to genuine hai ... aur meri bhi yehi confusion hai.. kaafi .. kaafi dafa socha pr koi hal samjh nahi aaya ..... ISOLATED bhi nahi ho saktay aur PEHRA Lagana bhi theek nahi .................... lets wait, somebody might bring an idea !

Forever Green
QUOTE(Uncertainty @ Apr 25 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]2839969[/snapback]
sawal to genuine hai ... aur meri bhi yehi confusion hai.. kaafi .. kaafi dafa socha pr koi hal samjh nahi aaya ..... ISOLATED bhi nahi ho saktay aur PEHRA Lagana bhi theek nahi .................... lets wait, somebody might bring an idea !



hmmmm..........waitin 0-sosad.gif
Perplexed Soul
yeh kafi bara masla hai


yahan se jo log chalay jatay hain woh to sahi reh patay hain
per jo wahan peda hotay hain woh kuch alag se ho jate hain mahol ke sath
aur jo unke baad hongay woh shayad aur ziada alag hongay

per samajh main nhain aata ke iska hal kia hoga?
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QUOTE(nomi87 @ Apr 26 2008, 02:01 AM) [snapback]2840138[/snapback]
yeh kafi bara masla hai
yahan se jo log chalay jatay hain woh to sahi reh patay hain
per jo wahan peda hotay hain woh kuch alag se ho jate hain mahol ke sath
aur jo unke baad hongay woh shayad aur ziada alag hongay

per samajh main nhain aata ke iska hal kia hoga?

pata nahi kya hoga dunno.gif
Forever Green
QUOTE(nomi87 @ Apr 25 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]2840138[/snapback]
yeh kafi bara masla hai
yahan se jo log chalay jatay hain woh to sahi reh patay hain
per jo wahan peda hotay hain woh kuch alag se ho jate hain mahol ke sath
aur jo unke baad hongay woh shayad aur ziada alag hongay

per samajh main nhain aata ke iska hal kia hoga?




Wohi tooooooo....... aese bachee na idher ke hote hain na udher ke..... Woh samajhte hain ke hum buss Yahin ke hain jabke woh 2nd citizen se zyada kuch nahi hote.... Kese controll karen is cheez ko ...kese bataen in bachon ke ke inki base kya hay ? 0-sosad.gif
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hmmm mere abu ami MASHALLAH unki up bringing gr8 jus like mopst parents jab hum sab 4 saal k teh abu neh masjid mein admit ki hum sab ko waha humne sab kuch learn ki islam urdu aur QURAN b so waha abu ami neh apna fardz ki

n ghar par b abu ami kehte teh nazam parni chaiye tv b deikho lkin saat mein namaz b lazmi hei jab age huwi pakka karne ki

my n dad free hei i mean abu tou ab nahi hei lkin jab teh unho neh kabhi mana nahi kiya salra kameez pehne ya jeans lkin parda lazmi hei chacha ya koi bada buzurg aye tou parda karna lazmi hei tradition hei aur islam mein b yeh kaha hei

lkin aj kal ki jo genreation hei woh aur kuch type ke hei

we hum sab is generation mein hei aj kal sab indian movies holyywood deikh kar dey wana b like dem

smoke karna bf gf sab k hei wel most so sab bas apni marzi k malik hei aj kal bht kam bache hei jo ami abu k baat sunte hei aur mje bht gusa ata hei un logo par jo batameezi s pesih aate hei abu ami k saat q ki ek na ek din humhei b ami abu hona hei we nahichate k hamre bache b aisa krein so no way respect always karni chaiye


aj kal pakistani films b indian ki tara hei unhe deikh kar hum sab aise bana chata hei aj kal


n restrictions ki baat islam mein jo kuch b likha hei bilkul sahi hei namaz pardha yeh sab karna chaiye lkin hum nahi karte q q ki gneration hi kuch aisi hei k sab just think k han hum jo karin sahi hei


ufff tak gaye type kar k bas jo mind mein ta woh kehdiya hope meine q's ko sahi s answer ki hei 1-embaressed_smile.gif

aur NOMI neh apni post q's mein end ki hei sahi kaha hei ab hum kar b kya ksakte hei isko improve krne kliye smile.gif
Forever Green
QUOTE(miss_abbasi @ Apr 25 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]2840213[/snapback]
hmmm mere abu ami MASHALLAH unki up bringing gr8 jus like mopst parents jab hum sab 4 saal k teh abu neh masjid mein admit ki hum sab ko waha humne sab kuch learn ki islam urdu aur QURAN b so waha abu ami neh apna fardz ki

n ghar par b abu ami kehte teh nazam parni chaiye tv b deikho lkin saat mein namaz b lazmi hei jab age huwi pakka karne ki

my n dad free hei i mean abu tou ab nahi hei lkin jab teh unho neh kabhi mana nahi kiya salra kameez pehne ya jeans lkin parda lazmi hei chacha ya koi bada buzurg aye tou parda karna lazmi hei tradition hei aur islam mein b yeh kaha hei

lkin aj kal ki jo genreation hei woh aur kuch type ke hei

we hum sab is generation mein hei aj kal sab indian movies holyywood deikh kar dey wana b like dem

smoke karna bf gf sab k hei wel most so sab bas apni marzi k malik hei aj kal bht kam bache hei jo ami abu k baat sunte hei aur mje bht gusa ata hei un logo par jo batameezi s pesih aate hei abu ami k saat q ki ek na ek din humhei b ami abu hona hei we nahichate k hamre bache b aisa krein so no way respect always karni chaiye
aj kal pakistani films b indian ki tara hei unhe deikh kar hum sab aise bana chata hei aj kal
n restrictions ki baat islam mein jo kuch b likha hei bilkul sahi hei namaz pardha yeh sab karna chaiye lkin hum nahi karte q q ki gneration hi kuch aisi hei k sab just think k han hum jo karin sahi hei
ufff tak gaye type kar k bas jo mind mein ta woh kehdiya hope meine q's ko sahi s answer ki hei 1-embaressed_smile.gif

aur NOMI neh apni post q's mein end ki hei sahi kaha hei ab hum kar b kya ksakte hei isko improve krne kliye smile.gif


dat is really sweet ..... i know dats wat parents do hea... but still ....honestly i hate mummy dady type bachaa loog ............ dey pretend demselves like dey r so kool n jitna Islam se doar hote hain utna hi proud feel karte hain ....Kya ho gaya hay aaj kal ke bachon ko ....

Aesa kya point hona chahye jo unko convence kar sake...kya tareqa hona chahye ???? am just lookin for dat
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VrSoLdIeRs
hmmm... yaar buhat hard question hai.... seriously thats one thing jiski mujhay samjh nahi ati.... cuz see yahan ho ya pakistan kabhi kabhi hota hai keh bachay aisay hotay hain keh rashk ata hai like humara landlord hai bilkul bhi religious nahi magar uskay bachay MashaAllah buhat naik hain... aisa hi kitni hi larkiyan nazar ati hain keh yahan kay mahool main reh kar bhi masoomiyat barasti hai

suchi baat hai mujhay idea nahi... i think agar aap bachon ko pehlay step par hi rook saktay hain to rok dain... warna banda aik baar kisi raastay par chalna shuru kar day to rukta nahi hai especially at younger age

meri to dua hai keh wife akalmand si milay duas.gif warna atleast i cant upbring my children like dis 1-embaressed_smile.gif
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QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 26 2008, 02:23 AM) [snapback]2840224[/snapback]
dat is really sweet ..... i know dats wat parents do hea... but still ....honestly i hate mummy dady type bachaa loog ............ dey pretend demselves like dey r so kool n jitna Islam se doar hote hain utna hi proud feel karte hain ....Kya ho gaya hay aaj kal ke bachon ko ....

Aesa kya point hona chahye jo unko convence kar sake...kya tareqa hona chahye ???? am just lookin for dat
paseena.gif

kuch bacha bht zyada batameez hote hei aur parents bechare give up karte hei stress dem 2 the max bas pata nahi ISLAM ki baat karin tou yeh media bht badi prb hei hum sab influencd hojate hei n yeh bht buri baat hei
Perplexed Soul
QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 26 2008, 02:12 AM) [snapback]2840198[/snapback]
Wohi tooooooo....... aese bachee na idher ke hote hain na udher ke..... Woh samajhte hain ke hum buss Yahin ke hain jabke woh 2nd citizen se zyada kuch nahi hote.... Kese controll karen is cheez ko ...kese bataen in bachon ke ke inki base kya hay ? 0-sosad.gif



yaar wapas bhej dena chahiye pakistan icon_peace.gif


mera aik chota sa dost hai
bhai ki tarha hai bilkul

last year woh toronto gaya
aur ab aik saal main woh itna ajeeb sa hogaya hai ke pocho mat
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QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 26 2008, 02:12 AM) [snapback]2840198[/snapback]
Wohi tooooooo....... aese bachee na idher ke hote hain na udher ke..... Woh samajhte hain ke hum buss Yahin ke hain jabke woh 2nd citizen se zyada kuch nahi hote.... Kese controll karen is cheez ko ...kese bataen in bachon ke ke inki base kya hay ? 0-sosad.gif

jo log pakistan s aate hei ya jo already yaha hei kis ki baat karin ?
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QUOTE(nomi87 @ Apr 26 2008, 02:30 AM) [snapback]2840239[/snapback]
yaar wapas bhej dena chahiye pakistan icon_peace.gif
mera aik chota sa dost hai
bhai ki tarha hai bilkul

last year woh toronto gaya
aur ab aik saal main woh itna ajeeb sa hogaya hai ke pocho mat

hahah han yaha k larke hi ajeeb hei poster_oops.gif sahi kehrahei ho paksitan s jab log ata hei UK ya USA tou bht badal jate hei kafi notice kiya hei meine pata nahi yaha ki hawa hi ajeeb hei gig.gif gig.gif
Forever Green
QUOTE(VrSoLdIeRs @ Apr 25 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]2840228[/snapback]
hmmm... yaar buhat hard question hai.... seriously thats one thing jiski mujhay samjh nahi ati.... cuz see yahan ho ya pakistan kabhi kabhi hota hai keh bachay aisay hotay hain keh rashk ata hai like humara landlord hai bilkul bhi religious nahi magar uskay bachay MashaAllah buhat naik hain... aisa hi kitni hi larkiyan nazar ati hain keh yahan kay mahool main reh kar bhi masoomiyat barasti hai

suchi baat hai mujhay idea nahi... i think agar aap bachon ko pehlay step par hi rook saktay hain to rok dain... warna banda aik baar kisi raastay par chalna shuru kar day to rukta nahi hai especially at younger age

meri to dua hai keh wife akalmand si milay duas.gif warna atleast i cant upbring my children like dis 1-embaressed_smile.gif



very True............. Bachon ki nature per bhi bahot depend karta hay ..... Kuch bachee hote hain bahot sensitive ........jabke kuch bilkul bhi nahi sunte .... Pata nahi kya point hona chahye.... let see koi experienced member may be koi good point bata de 0-sosad.gif
Forever Green
QUOTE(miss_abbasi @ Apr 25 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]2840232[/snapback]
kuch bacha bht zyada batameez hote hei aur parents bechare give up karte hei stress dem 2 the max bas pata nahi ISLAM ki baat karin tou yeh media bht badi prb hei hum sab influencd hojate hei n yeh bht buri baat hei




haan ...aur yahi to me ka question hay ke Batamez bahchon ko kese controll kiya jay 1-think.gif
Forever Green
QUOTE(nomi87 @ Apr 25 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]2840239[/snapback]
yaar wapas bhej dena chahiye pakistan icon_peace.gif
mera aik chota sa dost hai
bhai ki tarha hai bilkul

last year woh toronto gaya
aur ab aik saal main woh itna ajeeb sa hogaya hai ke pocho mat



wohii too...Mummy Daddy type bachee......i hate em ...Allah jee rehem karen hum sab per duas.gif
Forever Green
QUOTE(miss_abbasi @ Apr 25 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]2840242[/snapback]
jo log pakistan s aate hei ya jo already yaha hei kis ki baat karin ?



Baat to dono ki karni chahye.... cuz after all sab hi Muslims hain .....per specially jo yahan born hote hain unka kya kiya jay ????
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QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 26 2008, 02:35 AM) [snapback]2840250[/snapback]
haan ...aur yahi to me ka question hay ke Batamez bahchon ko kese controll kiya jay 1-think.gif

pata nahi kya krein u badi ho na mjs u batao na cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 26 2008, 02:38 AM) [snapback]2840254[/snapback]

Baat to dono ki karni chahye.... cuz after all sab hi Muslims hain .....per specially jo yahan born hote hain unka kya kiya jay ????

nalike bache angry.gif kya krein sis me ko khud nahi hei pata
Perplexed Soul
QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 26 2008, 02:36 AM) [snapback]2840252[/snapback]
wohii too...Mummy Daddy type bachee......i hate em ...Allah jee rehem karen hum sab per duas.gif



han mummy daddy ki nahin sunta woh ab poster_oops.gif
VrSoLdIeRs
QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 26 2008, 02:34 AM) [snapback]2840247[/snapback]
very True............. Bachon ki nature per bhi bahot depend karta hay ..... Kuch bachee hote hain bahot sensitive ........jabke kuch bilkul bhi nahi sunte .... Pata nahi kya point hona chahye.... let see koi experienced member may be koi good point bata de 0-sosad.gif

yahan par aisa kaun sa hai... saray hi chawalian marnay atay hain gig.gif

haan puranay members main say koi na koi uncle aunty mil sakti hai icon_peace.gif
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jo bache ami abu k nahi sunte

sab ko line mein khara kar k jaadu ki age ki chez hahahah naak mein daldo yeh saza hei 1-announce1.gif 1-announce1.gif
Forever Green

Ok guyss...wil catch ya laterzz...hv to leave...plzzzzzzzzzzz Leave ur valuable commentss...Thankzzz
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QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 26 2008, 02:45 AM) [snapback]2840268[/snapback]
Ok guyss...wil catch ya laterzz...hv to leave...plzzzzzzzzzzz Leave ur valuable commentss...Thankzzz

bye2.gif tc Babye
*DhanaK*
hmmm read everyone's input.

main parenting ko ek up hill battle kehtee hoon,bacchay acchay baday karna hain jinpar aapko fakhr ho to mehnat kijiye mohtaat rahiye,auladon mein interest lijiye aur unkay saath communication rakhiye,trust ka rishta qaaem kijiye,best of all role modelling kijiye..deen ko sahi maano mein khud samjhiye aur bacchon mein yahi instill kijiye aur Allah se har namaz mein with all honesty dua kijiye apnay bachcon ke liye aur sab bachcon ke liye,mera jo khayal hai woh yeh hai ke bacchon ko mohazzab rehna muhazzab tareeqay se utthna baitthna ur social interaction mein tameez ka daamn pakday rehna.jab aap ke baccha muhazzab hongay to woh waisi hi companymein comfortable feel kareingay,off the track aur badtameez bachcon se dosti karna pasand naheen kareingay.tameez ke daairay mein rehnay ke saath ek aur lesson "how to dress" bhi dena chahiye parents ko right from the start.deen ko sajhhna aur bacchon ko samjhana chahiye.yahan india pakistan ke aaye huwe bacchay totally out ho jaatay hai jaisay kahene pinjray mein qaid thay ab khuli aazaad fiza milee hai ( keep in mind i am not talking about all kids) main dekhtee hoon ke koi control hi naheen,7 /8 saal ke bachay huwe aur maan baap bebas ke baat hi nahene sunta/sunti.mall mein gaye zameen par lot gaye ke fulaan cheez chahiye,ro ro ke bura haal,aisi auladon ko usi waqt ek kas ke thhappar ,that's it.yeh sab tab hi hota hai jab aap shuru se dhyaan naheen dete
tameez ki class day one se hi parents ko laga lena chahiye aur har waqt alert rehna chahiye,kyunki west ki bahar ki duniya ajeeb hai aur bahot tezi se infuence kartee hai,kab baccha haath se slip huwa pata bhi naheen chalta.
LEKIN yeh generalisation ghalat hai ke bacchay bahar bigad jaatay hain.kya huwa jo ham west mein hain,jaisa ke soldier ne kaha yahan bhi acchay bacchay hain bahot acchay bacchay hain jo ke jab pakistan ya india wapas jaatay hain to log taareef kartay naheen tthaktay.




ForEverGreen sweeto! thanks smile.gif





tenha_saima
QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 25 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]2840198[/snapback]
Wohi tooooooo....... aese bachee na idher ke hote hain na udher ke..... Woh samajhte hain ke hum buss Yahin ke hain jabke woh 2nd citizen se zyada kuch nahi hote.... Kese controll karen is cheez ko ...kese bataen in bachon ke ke inki base kya hay ? 0-sosad.gif



strongly ... strongly disagree wid u here...

parents ki responsibility hai apne bachoon ko batana k un ki base kya hia ... kahaan se belong karte hain ... aur jidher hain udher kyun hain ...agr shuru se hi yeh mentality banaii jaye k " bacha too bahir ka hai ... kidher ki namaz parrhes kare ga?" .. to ho gaya kaam .... it is tuff but in many ways EZI to raise kids outside...

y ??? cuz ... instead ov juz tellin k sumthin is bad .... one gives REASON! ... agr koi banda apne hi point ov views main clear nahien hai k too kaisse raise kare ga bache??? ... loog kahte hain ... k ISLAM mian restrictions hain .. HOW DO U KNW??????? kabhi parha hai deemagh ka dhakan khol k ???

ISLAM is the only religion jis main har "y?" aur "how" ka answer hain .... kids outside knw mor than kids in pakistan ..... virasat main religion mil jaye too for granted hoti hai .... lekin agr os grantess pe doubt ho too javab milne k baad koi way-out nahien hota dan to accept it wid open arms ..
aaireykhushi
yaar koi bhi bacha born hote hi religion and values develop nahi karta..
itz upto their parents,to teach them whatz good for them and whats bad.

iske ilawa shuru se hi unhein islamic stories sunana
aur unko apne religion se pyar sikhaana,

sahi age pe Quran-Shareef complete karwana
and after telling them the right way

unhein azaad kardena cuz yehi unke leye best hai
ke woh khud apnah acha bura samjhein..
and kisi bhi prob ko solve karne mein
apne parents ki guidance lein 0-headbang.gif

thats my personal opinion icon_peace.gif !!
tenha_saima
QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 25 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]2839458[/snapback]
Salaam dosto, Sathiyon Te Sajanonnn frndz.gif

Yesterday i had a conversation wid sum of ma colleagues abt "How should we raised our children" What should we have to keep in mind while Raising them ...

Specially for da parents who r away from dere country and cant show reall values of their culture and religion to their kids....

What should be da Motivative dat children can easyly pick without any hesitation?

I was all confused cuz dosnt matter how u r raising ur kids at home, dosnt matter how much Islamic views r u putting in dere mins, Once they start going to school, every thing start gettin messed up... cuz in schools ...kids from all religion , each society, n each country come dere... dey see dem ...dey see their freedom n wen dey cum back home start questioning abt dere freedom (well pplz here think dere r too many restrictions in Islam)...

Please put in ur precious views to help parents out of country or also in Pakistan ..
smile.gif



Walaikum-as-SalaamZz

hows u hun??? long time no c


real value ov culture???? i dun think its impt ... RELIGION mattaz not culture !

acha .. now to ur topic .. main ne ap ka aik aur comment parha hai jis main ap ne kaha hai k " bahir paida hove bachoon ka kya?" ...

hun, i was born outside ov pakistan ... but mahh base is strong... am a pakistani geographically.... but muslim by heart..


like nyone else... mujhe bhi doubts they ... i think mahh parents, especially mahh mum played a vital role in killin mah inscurities or .. doubts regardin mahh religion .. n alhamdulliah ... i pray 5 times now ( been almost 2 yr now) n i dun seem to hav ny problems gettin things mah wayy ..

main ne jab se mum ko daikha hai .. woo namaz parhtii hain, Quran parhtii hain ... jo woo kehti hain wohi woo kartii hain .. unlike sum parents jo kahte hain " namaz parhoo" or " dun watch dis" or "dun do dis" .. lekin woo khud wohi sab kar rahe hote hain ... which is a main reason y kids hav confusionz ..

mahh mum kept things quite straight frwd... kooi tension nahien di .. kuch force nahein kara.... namaz k liye woo hum sab k beech main ... bole too TV room main namaz parhtii thi .. aur hum behen bhai itna emabarass hote they k " yaar mumz prayin ... aur hum?" ... yeh embarassment hamesha dil main rahtii thi is liye chote hote se hi namaz ka scne raha hai ... aur mum har baat main kehti thi k " shukar ada karoo Allah ka ... either wid 2 nafal or surahs" .... on k paas har cheez ka javab hota tha ... aur jin baatooon ka nahien hota tha ... woo PURA support kartii thi k bache jaoo aur research karoo ..

main ne grd10 main religion ka course liaa tha... which left me sooooooo confused ... k yeh sab kya hai ?? ... mere views idher udher ho gaye they ... main ne mum ko bataya ... cuz she is mor ov a frnd than ov a strict " DO'z n DUN'z" type ... n honestly.... afta readin each n every line on islam frm both gud n bad side...... i truly, truly accpeted it wid open armz..... mere saath aik problem hai k har cheez ka javab chahtii hoon... curious rehtii hoon k aissa kyun aur waissa kyun ... aur mere parents ne kabhi bhi merii curiosity ko dabaya nahein ... jahaan tak woo FACTS k saath back up kar sakte they baatoon ko .. utna onhoon ne kara...

hamesha aik seedha rasta deekhna parentz ka kaam hota hai .... os k baad .. bacha khud aik individual hai aur os ka hisaab sep hona hai .... Allah behtar janta hai k kis ne kya karna hai ... the most a parent can do is teach ... n teach ... n only TEACH .. which means NO MAAR DHAAR .... agr zabardastii se kuch bhi seekhana chaha .. chahe acha ya bura.... bachey opposite karain ge ..

as for restrictions in islam .... narrow minded ppl say dis ... jo yeh kahta hai hai .. ask em HHOW DO U KNW? ... WHERE DID U READ DIS ... DO U EVEN KNW WAS ISLAM MEANS? ... if a kid feels bad abt his/her religion ... dan its insecurities or unanswered question ... aksar parents bhaga dete hain k " mujhe nahien pata... tang nahien karo " ... is tarhaan koi nahien seekhe ka .. aur western culture ko accpet kare ga .... but .. if we read western culture .. it has similarities wid our religion too !! ..

its all abt backin up ur wordz wid FACTZ .. ab woo zamana nahien raha k jis tarff laga doo bacha ossi tarff jaye .. aur yeh aik tarhaan se acha bhi hai .. atleast isi tarhaan apne religion ko jaa'ne ka qareeb se mouqa too mile ga wid proper proofz !

hope i was on track :$
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QUOTE(tenha_saima @ Apr 26 2008, 04:03 AM) [snapback]2840321[/snapback]
Walaikum-as-SalaamZz

hows u hun??? long time no c


real value ov culture???? i dun think its impt ... RELIGION mattaz not culture !

acha .. now to ur topic .. main ne ap ka aik aur comment parha hai jis main ap ne kaha hai k " bahir paida hove bachoon ka kya?" ...

hun, i was born outside ov pakistan ... but mahh base is strong... am a pakistani geographically.... but muslim by heart..


like nyone else... mujhe bhi doubts they ... i think mahh parents, especially mahh mum played a vital role in killin mah inscurities or .. doubts regardin mahh religion .. n alhamdulliah ... i pray 5 times now ( been almost 2 yr now) n i dun seem to hav ny problems gettin things mah wayy ..

main ne jab se mum ko daikha hai .. woo namaz parhtii hain, Quran parhtii hain ... jo woo kehti hain wohi woo kartii hain .. unlike sum parents jo kahte hain " namaz parhoo" or " dun watch dis" or "dun do dis" .. lekin woo khud wohi sab kar rahe hote hain ... which is a main reason y kids hav confusionz ..

mahh mum kept things quite straight frwd... kooi tension nahien di .. kuch force nahein kara.... namaz k liye woo hum sab k beech main ... bole too TV room main namaz parhtii thi .. aur hum behen bhai itna emabarass hote they k " yaar mumz prayin ... aur hum?" ... yeh embarassment hamesha dil main rahtii thi is liye chote hote se hi namaz ka scne raha hai ... aur mum har baat main kehti thi k " shukar ada karoo Allah ka ... either wid 2 nafal or surahs" .... on k paas har cheez ka javab hota tha ... aur jin baatooon ka nahien hota tha ... woo PURA support kartii thi k bache jaoo aur research karoo ..

main ne grd10 main religion ka course liaa tha... which left me sooooooo confused ... k yeh sab kya hai ?? ... mere views idher udher ho gaye they ... main ne mum ko bataya ... cuz she is mor ov a frnd than ov a strict " DO'z n DUN'z" type ... n honestly.... afta readin each n every line on islam frm both gud n bad side...... i truly, truly accpeted it wid open armz..... mere saath aik problem hai k har cheez ka javab chahtii hoon... curious rehtii hoon k aissa kyun aur waissa kyun ... aur mere parents ne kabhi bhi merii curiosity ko dabaya nahein ... jahaan tak woo FACTS k saath back up kar sakte they baatoon ko .. utna onhoon ne kara...

hamesha aik seedha rasta deekhna parentz ka kaam hota hai .... os k baad .. bacha khud aik individual hai aur os ka hisaab sep hona hai .... Allah behtar janta hai k kis ne kya karna hai ... the most a parent can do is teach ... n teach ... n only TEACH .. which means NO MAAR DHAAR .... agr zabardastii se kuch bhi seekhana chaha .. chahe acha ya bura.... bachey opposite karain ge ..

as for restrictions in islam .... narrow minded ppl say dis ... jo yeh kahta hai hai .. ask em HHOW DO U KNW? ... WHERE DID U READ DIS ... DO U EVEN KNW WAS ISLAM MEANS? ... if a kid feels bad abt his/her religion ... dan its insecurities or unanswered question ... aksar parents bhaga dete hain k " mujhe nahien pata... tang nahien karo " ... is tarhaan koi nahien seekhe ka .. aur western culture ko accpet kare ga .... but .. if we read western culture .. it has similarities wid our religion too !! ..

its all abt backin up ur wordz wid FACTZ .. ab woo zamana nahien raha k jis tarff laga doo bacha ossi tarff jaye .. aur yeh aik tarhaan se acha bhi hai .. atleast isi tarhaan apne religion ko jaa'ne ka qareeb se mouqa too mile ga wid proper proofz !

hope i was on track :$


such kehrahi ho it doesnt matta where u live pakistan mein ho UK ya USA ya jaha b up bringin sahi ho religion apni ko acpet karto den sab kuch teek
Abu Adnan
masha Allah etni achi achi replies aa gayee hain k ab inn maiN kuch add karnaa khasa mushkil hai. phir bhi chand points pesha khidmat haiN. it is understood k aisay parents khud islamic teaching say achi tarah waqif houngay agar nahi to apni yeh kami saath saath poora karaiN and then

1) bachouN k school jaanay ki age say qabl hi onhaiN apnaa best-friend bana laiN. koi communication-gap nah rahay. aur best friends ki tarah saath khayaiN, saath gappaiN karaiN, saath movie /tv dekhaiN, saath outing karaiN. amooman (west maiN khasoosan) kidz ki dunya alag hoti hai aur parents ki alag... sab say pahlay iss 'trend' ko khatam karaiN. jab tak bachay apni har baat parent say share nahi kartay, samajh laiN k aap onkay best friend nahi.

2) bach.choun ki dil.chaspiyouN maiN khud bhi shareek houn. like agar bachouN ki party aap k ghar ho to aap aisee party maiN zaroor shareek houn magar iss tarah k woh bhi aap ko qabool karain.

3) surrounding maiN maujood har jagah kidz ko pahli martabah khud lay kar jayaiN aur kai martabah lay kar jayaiN..... agar koi issay negatively nah lay to arz karouN k .... (islamic point of view say) bori jagahaiN like bars, cassino, cinema, etc maiN bhi lay kar jayaiN aur wahaaN ki activities say kidz ko brief karaiN aur batlayaiN k in maiN say kia bora hai aur kia achchaa.... borayee ko describe kartay howay dunyawi nuqsaanaat say agaah karaiN aur zimnan yeh batlayaiN k issi wajah say islam maiN yeh sab kharafaat haraam hai.

4) jab bachchay school janay lagaiN to wapsi par same day oni kahani onki zobani sunnay ki adat dalaiN. aik aadh ghaNtay k iss session main woh aap ko apni roo.daad sonayengay aur aap beech beech maiN comments karkay onki 'tarbiat' ka samaan ghair mahsoos tareeqay say karaiN.

5) kidz ko kam say kam dost bananay ki talqeen karain aur selected dostouN ki list ghar maiN zaroor rakhaiN... kidz ko onkay dostouN k ghar lay jayaiN, onkay dostouN k parents say friendship baRhayaiN. gaya 'faily-frienship' ka mahaul create karaiN taakay aik doosray k ghar poori family aa jaa sakain... aisay maiN sab ka purpose poora hogaa... marda-mard, lady-lady aur kidz-kidz aik hi tour maiN sab ki friends mil sakengi........ non-muslim families say dosti zaroor karaiN lekin onki selection maiN ehteyaat laazmi ho. sirf nisbatan behtar character ki families say raah o rasam baRhayaiN.

6) schooling maiN dee janay wali taleem... nisaabi o ghair nisaabi dounouN par gahri nazar rakhaiN... aksar school ko visit karaiN, teachers say milaiN. aur jo baat school maiN 'ghalat' nazar aaye... ossay kidz say discuss karaiN.

7) ghar maiN aik 'libraray room' zaroor ho. jahaan tv bhi ho, computer bhi, video cassettes, CDs aur books .mags ki achchi collection bhi. yeh room etna bara ho alag alag goshay maiN tv bhi dekha jaraha ho, net bhi use kia jaraha ho, books bhi read ki jarahi houN aur log aik doosray say distrub howay beghair aik doosray say baa khabar bhi houN. aik hi item sab aik saath bhi dekh saktay haiN aur alag alag bhi............ bachouN k rooms maiN alag alag tv /compouter with net to kabhi nah ho..... bachchay yehi home work bhi karsaktay hain aur tafreeh bhi. parents bhi apna extra times yeheeN basar karaiN kidz k saath to kia hi behtar ho. yeh batlanay ki to zaroorat nahi k CDs aur books maiN games bhi houN, tafreeh bhi, info bhi aur islamic taleemaat bhi... issues par discussions bhi yehi hosakti haiN alag say bhi aur during watching channels /net etc bhi./

agar koi point repeat hogaya ho to maazrat.
AI-Irhab
1. Alhamdulillah Pakistan may Atleast aesa nahi hay kion k yahan Majority Muslims hain aur Religion confliction ka naam nahi hay... but yahan jitna bache seekhte hain us se 10 gunaa ziada biger jaate hain....

2. Ager Parents ki pervarish achi aur paidaar ho... unhein Muslims Ideology sey inspire kiya jaye, ager woh koi sawal kerein Freedom,etc k baare may tu unhein itminaan k sath poori wazahat kerdi jaye (is k lye apko khod bhi ilm hona zarori hay kion k khayal arai sey kaam nahi chalta)... aur yeh yakeen dihaani kerwaiN k Islam is a perfect Religion...

3. Islam kion criticize ka shikaar hay is ki bhi wazahat buhut zarori hay kion k koi shak nahi muslim intishaar ka shikaar horahe hain... in may kuch goroh Islam ko badnaam kerahey hain... Islam ki asal roh ko napaid kerni ki koshishein ki jarahin hain...

4. Bachey ziada tar chezein dekha dekhi apnate hain... Is liye unhein sudharne sey phely khood ko Islami sanchein may dhalna zarori hay...


seemaf
Mere khayal Parents ko sab se pehley khud Deeni taleem ka poora ilm hona zaroori hai us ke baad apne bachey main Deen se qurbat paida ki jaye .. us ko acha bura samjhaya jaye, Us ke dost banain aur confidence dain ke "We are here for u" smile.gif
Airy_Princess
QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 25 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]2839458[/snapback]
Salaam dosto, Sathiyon Te Sajanonnn frndz.gif

Yesterday i had a conversation wid sum of ma colleagues abt "How should we raised our children" What should we have to keep in mind while Raising them ...

Specially for da parents who r away from dere country and cant show reall values of their culture and religion to their kids....

What should be da Motivative dat children can easyly pick without any hesitation?

I was all confused cuz dosnt matter how u r raising ur kids at home, dosnt matter how much Islamic views r u putting in dere mins, Once they start going to school, every thing start gettin messed up... cuz in schools ...kids from all religion , each society, n each country come dere... dey see dem ...dey see their freedom n wen dey cum back home start questioning abt dere freedom (well pplz here think dere r too many restrictions in Islam)...

Please put in ur precious views to help parents out of country or also in Pakistan ..
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Salamz ... dunno upar sab ne kya kaha I would lyk to say just wot I think ... n have experienced da situation smile.gif

well I think bachon ki parwarish main mom ka chracter buht hi zyada matter krta hai ... jesi maa ki nature hogi bache b bilkul wesy hi hon ge ... bache woh kachi mitti ki tarhan hote hain jinko app jesay dhalou k dhal jaein ge ... I call children *Mithoo* k unko ju app ne sikhana hai woh seekh jaein ge ... bahar rehne wale kids kou buht problems hoti hain ... yep they ask a lot ... meri niece bhi bahar hi hai aur shez in standard 2 ... aur jesy u ne kaha wesy hi uss k sawal hote hain ... bachon ko sahi rukh main laanay k lye unki sahi personality banane k lye parents ko unn k har sawal ka jawab dena parta hai ... woh islye cuz jab tak humare pass sawal nahi hongey hum sekhien ge kesay ? kesay ye maloom ho sakeyga k hum kuch learn kar rahe hain .. bacha kuch learn kar raha hai... jab hum baray ho jate hain tou humien unn k sawal ajeeb lagte hain n we used to say "kya bachon jesy sawal kar rahe ho" just place urself in there place u will get the feelings ... kisne kaha hai k islam mushkil hai aur kids k lye tou bilkul b nahi ... har cheez main se gud things batain aur compare karte rahein apne religion ko baki religions se kids k samne iss se unko points miltey hain apne ap ko defence karne k dousron k samne aur apne religion ko bhi ... jab tak bache ko freedom of speech nahi hota ... uss k concepts clear na honge ... woh kesay kameeyab ho sakey ga??? woh kesay reality ko ... dunia ko face kar sake ga??? so parents ko chaheye k apni na marien aur kids ko tafseel se sunien k woh kya kehty hain then apne views unko iss tarhan apni example de kar sumjhein k woh samajh jaein ... every relation has space to be friends ... so parents ko b apne kids ka dost bananah chaheye smile.gif dats wot I think ... when it cums to me ... tou me tou apne kids aaise hi palongi jesay likha .... cuz me k parents ne hamesha meko freedom of speech ki power di same thing I will do wd my kids ... being a teacher I can tolerate their useless talks easily ... these things are useless for sum parents when children lyk to discuss nething wid their parents ... woh start main hi keh dety hai be4 clearing ne concept k app buray ho ... aaisa nahi karna chaheye ... kids ... almost 8 years tak kabhie bhi jhoot nahi bolte ... phir jesy jesy woh baray* bante hain woh baron jesy hi ho jate hain smile.gif
Forever Green
QUOTE(shafaq @ Apr 25 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]2840280[/snapback]
hmmm read everyone's input.

main parenting ko ek up hill battle kehtee hoon,bacchay acchay baday karna hain jinpar aapko fakhr ho to mehnat kijiye mohtaat rahiye,auladon mein interest lijiye aur unkay saath communication rakhiye,trust ka rishta qaaem kijiye,best of all role modelling kijiye..deen ko sahi maano mein khud samjhiye aur bacchon mein yahi instill kijiye aur Allah se har namaz mein with all honesty dua kijiye apnay bachcon ke liye aur sab bachcon ke liye,mera jo khayal hai woh yeh hai ke bacchon ko mohazzab rehna muhazzab tareeqay se utthna baitthna ur social interaction mein tameez ka daamn pakday rehna.jab aap ke baccha muhazzab hongay to woh waisi hi companymein comfortable feel kareingay,off the track aur badtameez bachcon se dosti karna pasand naheen kareingay.tameez ke daairay mein rehnay ke saath ek aur lesson "how to dress" bhi dena chahiye parents ko right from the start.deen ko sajhhna aur bacchon ko samjhana chahiye.yahan india pakistan ke aaye huwe bacchay totally out ho jaatay hai jaisay kahene pinjray mein qaid thay ab khuli aazaad fiza milee hai ( keep in mind i am not talking about all kids) main dekhtee hoon ke koi control hi naheen,7 /8 saal ke bachay huwe aur maan baap bebas ke baat hi nahene sunta/sunti.mall mein gaye zameen par lot gaye ke fulaan cheez chahiye,ro ro ke bura haal,aisi auladon ko usi waqt ek kas ke thhappar ,that's it.yeh sab tab hi hota hai jab aap shuru se dhyaan naheen dete
tameez ki class day one se hi parents ko laga lena chahiye aur har waqt alert rehna chahiye,kyunki west ki bahar ki duniya ajeeb hai aur bahot tezi se infuence kartee hai,kab baccha haath se slip huwa pata bhi naheen chalta.
LEKIN yeh generalisation ghalat hai ke bacchay bahar bigad jaatay hain.kya huwa jo ham west mein hain,jaisa ke soldier ne kaha yahan bhi acchay bacchay hain bahot acchay bacchay hain jo ke jab pakistan ya india wapas jaatay hain to log taareef kartay naheen tthaktay.
ForEverGreen sweeto! thanks smile.gif



First of all ...thanks sisoo for cumin on dis topic 0-hug.gif

A very very good point gud.gif u r rite ....yahi tareqa hay ke shayad bache sudhre huwe rahen ....mein kal hi sooch rahi thi ke company effects alot , n kids do like to join dere kind of kids....

Very precious thoughts.... i like da point ke bachon ko day 1 se hi tameez sikhani chahye... Mein ek dafa shoping kar rahi thi ....dekha to ek gori us ke saath yahi ko saal dadh saal ki bachi cart mein thi ....bahot hi cute bachi thi meri wese hi us per nazar gai ...us ke baad i got buzy in ma shoping ke ek zoor daar thapar ki awaz aai ....us gori ne apni bachi ko ek rakh ke thapar mara...mein ne poocha y did u do dat she is too young.... to kehne lagi "she has to learn from day first"...aur aap ki baat bhi bilkul wesi hi hay ...

Thanks again pyari sisoo
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Forever Green
QUOTE(tenha_saima @ Apr 25 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]2840298[/snapback]
strongly ... strongly disagree wid u here...

parents ki responsibility hai apne bachoon ko batana k un ki base kya hia ... kahaan se belong karte hain ... aur jidher hain udher kyun hain ...agr shuru se hi yeh mentality banaii jaye k " bacha too bahir ka hai ... kidher ki namaz parrhes kare ga?" .. to ho gaya kaam .... it is tuff but in many ways EZI to raise kids outside...

y ??? cuz ... instead ov juz tellin k sumthin is bad .... one gives REASON! ... agr koi banda apne hi point ov views main clear nahien hai k too kaisse raise kare ga bache??? ... loog kahte hain ... k ISLAM mian restrictions hain .. HOW DO U KNW??????? kabhi parha hai deemagh ka dhakan khol k ???

ISLAM is the only religion jis main har "y?" aur "how" ka answer hain .... kids outside knw mor than kids in pakistan ..... virasat main religion mil jaye too for granted hoti hai .... lekin agr os grantess pe doubt ho too javab milne k baad koi way-out nahien hota dan to accept it wid open arms ..



Well i should say most kids not all of em.......... n dat was ma mistake..

Ne ways ...u r rite Islam is our base.... one shud know fst n den could tell his/her generation .....
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Forever Green
QUOTE(aaireykhushi @ Apr 25 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]2840311[/snapback]
yaar koi bhi bacha born hote hi religion and values develop nahi karta..
itz upto their parents,to teach them whatz good for them and whats bad.

[b]iske ilawa shuru se hi unhein islamic stories sunana
aur unko apne religion se pyar sikhaana,

sahi age pe Quran-Shareef complete karwana
and after telling them the right way

unhein azaad kardena cuz yehi unke leye best hai
ke woh khud apnah acha bura samjhein..
and kisi bhi prob ko solve karne mein
apne parents ki guidance lein 0-headbang.gif

thats my personal opinion icon_peace.gif !![/b]




That was in ma mind 1-kahani.gif

Waqi bachon ko Islamic history batana bachon ko Islam se mohabbat karne ka bahot bara zarya hay .... But bachon ko Azad kardena i think dat is not good... dere shud be sum limits always.... to keep dem away from bad habbits...cuz kids ko wohi sab sahi aur achaa lagata hay jo unko unki marzi se sab kuch karne ki ijazat dey ...Parents ko specially aaj kal ke mahool mein har waqt unke har step per nazar rakhni chahye ....taake woh andhere mein jaane se pehle hi bachay ja saken ... Kuch bura karne ka baad parents ki Ray lena ke ab mein kya karon is not enough ...hay naa smile.gif

Aane ka shukrya motiiiii
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aaireykhushi
QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 27 2008, 03:51 AM) [snapback]2841727[/snapback]
That was in ma mind 1-kahani.gif

Waqi bachon ko Islamic history batana bachon ko Islam se mohabbat karne ka bahot bara zarya hay .... But bachon ko Azad kardena i think dat is not good... dere shud be sum limits always.... to keep dem away from bad habbits...cuz kids ko wohi sab sahi aur achaa lagata hay jo unko unki marzi se sab kuch karne ki ijazat dey ...Parents ko specially aaj kal ke mahool mein har waqt unke har step per nazar rakhni chahye ....taake woh andhere mein jaane se pehle hi bachay ja saken ... Kuch bura karne ka baad parents ki Ray lena ke ab mein kya karon is not enough ...hay naa smile.gif

Aane ka shukrya motiiiii
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yeah true us se unhe kuch nah kuch seekhne ko milta hai 0-headbang.gif,

nahi yaar aaj kal ke daur mein woh bhi bahar ki kisi country mein

kisi bhi bache ko baandha nahi jasakta thats why i m saying this

koi bhi bacha woh kaam zaror karta hai jis se usko roka toka jaye..

it was my pleasure kuriye gig.gif!!
Forever Green
QUOTE(tenha_saima @ Apr 25 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]2840321[/snapback]
Walaikum-as-SalaamZz

hows u hun??? long time no c


real value ov culture???? i dun think its impt ... RELIGION mattaz not culture !

acha .. now to ur topic .. main ne ap ka aik aur comment parha hai jis main ap ne kaha hai k " bahir paida hove bachoon ka kya?" ...

hun, i was born outside ov pakistan ... but mahh base is strong... am a pakistani geographically.... but muslim by heart..


like nyone else... mujhe bhi doubts they ... i think mahh parents, especially mahh mum played a vital role in killin mah inscurities or .. doubts regardin mahh religion .. n alhamdulliah ... i pray 5 times now ( been almost 2 yr now) n i dun seem to hav ny problems gettin things mah wayy ..

main ne jab se mum ko daikha hai .. woo namaz parhtii hain, Quran parhtii hain ... jo woo kehti hain wohi woo kartii hain .. unlike sum parents jo kahte hain " namaz parhoo" or " dun watch dis" or "dun do dis" .. lekin woo khud wohi sab kar rahe hote hain ... which is a main reason y kids hav confusionz ..

mahh mum kept things quite straight frwd... kooi tension nahien di .. kuch force nahein kara.... namaz k liye woo hum sab k beech main ... bole too TV room main namaz parhtii thi .. aur hum behen bhai itna emabarass hote they k " yaar mumz prayin ... aur hum?" ... yeh embarassment hamesha dil main rahtii thi is liye chote hote se hi namaz ka scne raha hai ... aur mum har baat main kehti thi k " shukar ada karoo Allah ka ... either wid 2 nafal or surahs" .... on k paas har cheez ka javab hota tha ... aur jin baatooon ka nahien hota tha ... woo PURA support kartii thi k bache jaoo aur research karoo ..

main ne grd10 main religion ka course liaa tha... which left me sooooooo confused ... k yeh sab kya hai ?? ... mere views idher udher ho gaye they ... main ne mum ko bataya ... cuz she is mor ov a frnd than ov a strict " DO'z n DUN'z" type ... n honestly.... afta readin each n every line on islam frm both gud n bad side...... i truly, truly accpeted it wid open armz..... mere saath aik problem hai k har cheez ka javab chahtii hoon... curious rehtii hoon k aissa kyun aur waissa kyun ... aur mere parents ne kabhi bhi merii curiosity ko dabaya nahein ... jahaan tak woo FACTS k saath back up kar sakte they baatoon ko .. utna onhoon ne kara...

hamesha aik seedha rasta deekhna parentz ka kaam hota hai .... os k baad .. bacha khud aik individual hai aur os ka hisaab sep hona hai .... Allah behtar janta hai k kis ne kya karna hai ... the most a parent can do is teach ... n teach ... n only TEACH .. which means NO MAAR DHAAR .... agr zabardastii se kuch bhi seekhana chaha .. chahe acha ya bura.... bachey opposite karain ge ..

as for restrictions in islam .... narrow minded ppl say dis ... jo yeh kahta hai hai .. ask em HHOW DO U KNW? ... WHERE DID U READ DIS ... DO U EVEN KNW WAS ISLAM MEANS? ... if a kid feels bad abt his/her religion ... dan its insecurities or unanswered question ... aksar parents bhaga dete hain k " mujhe nahien pata... tang nahien karo " ... is tarhaan koi nahien seekhe ka .. aur western culture ko accpet kare ga .... but .. if we read western culture .. it has similarities wid our religion too !! ..

its all abt backin up ur wordz wid FACTZ .. ab woo zamana nahien raha k jis tarff laga doo bacha ossi tarff jaye .. aur yeh aik tarhaan se acha bhi hai .. atleast isi tarhaan apne religion ko jaa'ne ka qareeb se mouqa too mile ga wid proper proofz !

hope i was on track :$



Very Nice Points.................... Ma parents always does da same thing which ur Mum did...n dat is y i always always respect islam n honestly cud die for Islam (Alhamdulillah)

Islam is our Culture, our Culture based on Islam ...we supposed to do wat islam tell us n r advised to stay away frm da stuff dat is not good for us:)

I did gave dis example dat ppl say Islam has too many restrictions....cuz i was questioned abt dis.... ppl use to tell me dis....ma mum is not educated but i always saw her a best women example accordin to Islam ... cuz she was not educated dats y she didn't had answers for every thin sum time ...but wen eva i asked her sumthin she always useto tell me ke Beta Quran parho us mein dekho kya hay aur phir mujhe bhi batao ...n wen eva i found sum thin new i always told her n guide her ..... She is ma best mama 0-hug.gif

Yes dear .u were cent percent on Track ...Appriciated
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Forever Green
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Apr 25 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]2840520[/snapback]
masha Allah etni achi achi replies aa gayee hain k ab inn maiN kuch add karnaa khasa mushkil hai. phir bhi chand points pesha khidmat haiN. it is understood k aisay parents khud islamic teaching say achi tarah waqif houngay agar nahi to apni yeh kami saath saath poora karaiN and then

1) bachouN k school jaanay ki age say qabl hi onhaiN apnaa best-friend bana laiN. koi communication-gap nah rahay. aur best friends ki tarah saath khayaiN, saath gappaiN karaiN, saath movie /tv dekhaiN, saath outing karaiN. amooman (west maiN khasoosan) kidz ki dunya alag hoti hai aur parents ki alag... sab say pahlay iss 'trend' ko khatam karaiN. jab tak bachay apni har baat parent say share nahi kartay, samajh laiN k aap onkay best friend nahi.

2) bach.choun ki dil.chaspiyouN maiN khud bhi shareek houn. like agar bachouN ki party aap k ghar ho to aap aisee party maiN zaroor shareek houn magar iss tarah k woh bhi aap ko qabool karain.

3) surrounding maiN maujood har jagah kidz ko pahli martabah khud lay kar jayaiN aur kai martabah lay kar jayaiN..... agar koi issay negatively nah lay to arz karouN k .... (islamic point of view say) bori jagahaiN like bars, cassino, cinema, etc maiN bhi lay kar jayaiN aur wahaaN ki activities say kidz ko brief karaiN aur batlayaiN k in maiN say kia bora hai aur kia achchaa.... borayee ko describe kartay howay dunyawi nuqsaanaat say agaah karaiN aur zimnan yeh batlayaiN k issi wajah say islam maiN yeh sab kharafaat haraam hai.

4) jab bachchay school janay lagaiN to wapsi par same day oni kahani onki zobani sunnay ki adat dalaiN. aik aadh ghaNtay k iss session main woh aap ko apni roo.daad sonayengay aur aap beech beech maiN comments karkay onki 'tarbiat' ka samaan ghair mahsoos tareeqay say karaiN.

5) kidz ko kam say kam dost bananay ki talqeen karain aur selected dostouN ki list ghar maiN zaroor rakhaiN... kidz ko onkay dostouN k ghar lay jayaiN, onkay dostouN k parents say friendship baRhayaiN. gaya 'faily-frienship' ka mahaul create karaiN taakay aik doosray k ghar poori family aa jaa sakain... aisay maiN sab ka purpose poora hogaa... marda-mard, lady-lady aur kidz-kidz aik hi tour maiN sab ki friends mil sakengi........ non-muslim families say dosti zaroor karaiN lekin onki selection maiN ehteyaat laazmi ho. sirf nisbatan behtar character ki families say raah o rasam baRhayaiN.

6) schooling maiN dee janay wali taleem... nisaabi o ghair nisaabi dounouN par gahri nazar rakhaiN... aksar school ko visit karaiN, teachers say milaiN. aur jo baat school maiN 'ghalat' nazar aaye... ossay kidz say discuss karaiN.

7) ghar maiN aik 'libraray room' zaroor ho. jahaan tv bhi ho, computer bhi, video cassettes, CDs aur books .mags ki achchi collection bhi. yeh room etna bara ho alag alag goshay maiN tv bhi dekha jaraha ho, net bhi use kia jaraha ho, books bhi read ki jarahi houN aur log aik doosray say distrub howay beghair aik doosray say baa khabar bhi houN. aik hi item sab aik saath bhi dekh saktay haiN aur alag alag bhi............ bachouN k rooms maiN alag alag tv /compouter with net to kabhi nah ho..... bachchay yehi home work bhi karsaktay hain aur tafreeh bhi. parents bhi apna extra times yeheeN basar karaiN kidz k saath to kia hi behtar ho. yeh batlanay ki to zaroorat nahi k CDs aur books maiN games bhi houN, tafreeh bhi, info bhi aur islamic taleemaat bhi... issues par discussions bhi yehi hosakti haiN alag say bhi aur during watching channels /net etc bhi./

agar koi point repeat hogaya ho to maazrat.


Kitne bhi Achee achee points hoon Bhai .....aap ke reply ka mujhe bahot zyada wait tha ....thanks sooooooooo much bhai adb.gif

Itni khoobsoorti se aap ne guid kiya hay just rite n exact answer of my "HOW" ...very welldone gud.gif

u know wat ....am gonna print ma dis post n will keep it wid me wid every once precious guidlines ....

Kissi bhi baat mein koi aesa point mujhe nazar nahi aaya jis ke bare mein mein poochon ke kese karen? .....har baat ka right jawab bhi saath diya ...bahot khoobsorat ...aur is se bahot se loog mustafid honge..

Once again Thanks Bhai
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Forever Green
QUOTE(AI-Irhab @ Apr 25 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]2840588[/snapback]
1. Alhamdulillah Pakistan may Atleast aesa nahi hay kion k yahan Majority Muslims hain aur Religion confliction ka naam nahi hay... but yahan jitna bache seekhte hain us se 10 gunaa ziada biger jaate hain....

2. Ager Parents ki pervarish achi aur paidaar ho... unhein Muslims Ideology sey inspire kiya jaye, ager woh koi sawal kerein Freedom,etc k baare may tu unhein itminaan k sath poori wazahat kerdi jaye (is k lye apko khod bhi ilm hona zarori hay kion k khayal arai sey kaam nahi chalta)... aur yeh yakeen dihaani kerwaiN k Islam is a perfect Religion...

3. Islam kion criticize ka shikaar hay is ki bhi wazahat buhut zarori hay kion k koi shak nahi muslim intishaar ka shikaar horahe hain... in may kuch goroh Islam ko badnaam kerahey hain... Islam ki asal roh ko napaid kerni ki koshishein ki jarahin hain...

4. Bachey ziada tar chezein dekha dekhi apnate hain... Is liye unhein sudharne sey phely khood ko Islami sanchein may dhalna zarori hay...



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Waqi khud ko hi jab nahi pata hoga to kissi ko kya jawab dein ge hum ..... u r rite...Islam ke dushman to roz-e-awal se is dunya mein mojood hain ...har tarha se islam ki Rooh ko badnaam karne wale..... aur is baat ko rokne ke liye hamari generation ko aware hona bahot zaroori hay ..... Jab hum khud hi apne bachon ko guide nahi karen ge to kese chale ga...aur out of Pakistan parents ke liye waqi bachon ko sahi mahool mein rais karna bahot bara challenge hay .... Allah jee hum sab ki madad karen aamin
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Forever Green
QUOTE(seemaf @ Apr 26 2008, 03:11 AM) [snapback]2840883[/snapback]
Mere khayal Parents ko sab se pehley khud Deeni taleem ka poora ilm hona zaroori hai us ke baad apne bachey main Deen se qurbat paida ki jaye .. us ko acha bura samjhaya jaye, Us ke dost banain aur confidence dain ke "We are here for u" smile.gif



Khoobsorat aur to di point jawab hamesha ki tarha ...

thanks sisoo
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Forever Green
QUOTE(Airy_Princess @ Apr 26 2008, 05:23 AM) [snapback]2841222[/snapback]
Salamz ... dunno upar sab ne kya kaha I would lyk to say just wot I think ... n have experienced da situation smile.gif

well I think bachon ki parwarish main mom ka chracter buht hi zyada matter krta hai ... jesi maa ki nature hogi bache b bilkul wesy hi hon ge ... bache woh kachi mitti ki tarhan hote hain jinko app jesay dhalou k dhal jaein ge ... I call children *Mithoo* k unko ju app ne sikhana hai woh seekh jaein ge ... bahar rehne wale kids kou buht problems hoti hain ... yep they ask a lot ... meri niece bhi bahar hi hai aur shez in standard 2 ... aur jesy u ne kaha wesy hi uss k sawal hote hain ... bachon ko sahi rukh main laanay k lye unki sahi personality banane k lye parents ko unn k har sawal ka jawab dena parta hai ... woh islye cuz jab tak humare pass sawal nahi hongey hum sekhien ge kesay ? kesay ye maloom ho sakeyga k hum kuch learn kar rahe hain .. bacha kuch learn kar raha hai... jab hum baray ho jate hain tou humien unn k sawal ajeeb lagte hain n we used to say "kya bachon jesy sawal kar rahe ho" just place urself in there place u will get the feelings ... kisne kaha hai k islam mushkil hai aur kids k lye tou bilkul b nahi ... har cheez main se gud things batain aur compare karte rahein apne religion ko baki religions se kids k samne iss se unko points miltey hain apne ap ko defence karne k dousron k samne aur apne religion ko bhi ... jab tak bache ko freedom of speech nahi hota ... uss k concepts clear na honge ... woh kesay kameeyab ho sakey ga??? woh kesay reality ko ... dunia ko face kar sake ga??? so parents ko chaheye k apni na marien aur kids ko tafseel se sunien k woh kya kehty hain then apne views unko iss tarhan apni example de kar sumjhein k woh samajh jaein ... every relation has space to be friends ... so parents ko b apne kids ka dost bananah chaheye smile.gif dats wot I think ... when it cums to me ... tou me tou apne kids aaise hi palongi jesay likha .... cuz me k parents ne hamesha meko freedom of speech ki power di same thing I will do wd my kids ... being a teacher I can tolerate their useless talks easily ... these things are useless for sum parents when children lyk to discuss nething wid their parents ... woh start main hi keh dety hai be4 clearing ne concept k app buray ho ... aaisa nahi karna chaheye ... kids ... almost 8 years tak kabhie bhi jhoot nahi bolte ... phir jesy jesy woh baray* bante hain woh baron jesy hi ho jate hain smile.gif



Strongly agreed......Mama play a very special n important role in kids growth...

Sab se pehle to maa ko hi islam se love hona chahye tab hi bachon ko sahi guidelines mil paen gi ...Allah jee hum sab per rahen karen aur being a women jo zimedaari hum sab per aane wali hay Allah kare us mein Aakhrat wale din sharmindagi na uthani pare aamin suma aamin duas.gif

oyeeee ...best of Luk Future mama
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Forever Green
QUOTE(aaireykhushi @ Apr 26 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]2841729[/snapback]
yeah true us se unhe kuch nah kuch seekhne ko milta hai 0-headbang.gif,

nahi yaar aaj kal ke daur mein woh bhi bahar ki kisi country mein

kisi bhi bache ko baandha nahi jasakta thats why i m saying this

koi bhi bacha woh kaam zaror karta hai jis se usko roka toka jaye..

it was my pleasure kuriye gig.gif!!



Exactlly bandh nahi sakte per khulla bhi nahi chor sakte ...n jo points Abu Adnan rose.gif Bhai ne batay hain ...yaar very very strong n useful...Allah jee mujhe tofiq dein ...am gonna do da same thing .... Inshallah smile.gif
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QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 27 2008, 04:13 AM) [snapback]2841733[/snapback]
Kitne bhi Achee achee points hoon Bhai .....aap ke reply ka mujhe bahot zyada wait tha ....thanks sooooooooo much bhai adb.gif

Itni khoobsoorti se aap ne guid kiya hay just rite n exact answer of my "HOW" ...very welldone gud.gif

u know wat ....am gonna print ma dis post n will keep it wid me wid every once precious guidlines ....

Kissi bhi baat mein koi aesa point mujhe nazar nahi aaya jis ke bare mein mein poochon ke kese karen? .....har baat ka right jawab bhi saath diya ...bahot khoobsorat ...aur is se bahot se loog mustafid honge..

Once again Thanks Bhai
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adaab arz hai

waisay quraan kahta hai k daulat, spouse aur kidz... yeh sab aazmish haiN insaan k liyeh ... agar hum inn teenouN ko baratnay maiN yeh khayaal rakhaiN k kaheeN hum Allah ki aazmaish maiN naakaam nah hojayaiN to yaqeen karaiN hamaiN kabhi dukh aur pareeshaani nahi hogi agar khoda nah khaastah (Allah nah karay... Allah nah karay) kissi wajah say aur kissi waqt hamaray haathouN say hamari kamaye howi daulat nikal jawe, hamaray spouse hamaray nah rahaiN ya hamaray rahtay howay hamaiN dukh denay lkagaiN aur hamaray kidz hamari harmumkin kaawishoun aur mehnat k bawajood achay aur kaamyaab insaan nah ban sakaiN...........Allah hum sab ko iss aazmaish maiN kaamyaab karay. yeh troika hamari zindagi ka mahwar haiN. issi liyeh Allah nay inhaiN hamari aazmaish qarar dia hai.
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QUOTE(Forever Green @ Apr 27 2008, 04:28 AM) [snapback]2841736[/snapback]
Strongly agreed......Mama play a very special n important role in kids growth...

Sab se pehle to maa ko hi islam se love hona chahye tab hi bachon ko sahi guidelines mil paen gi ...Allah jee hum sab per rahen karen aur being a women jo zimedaari hum sab per aane wali hay Allah kare us mein Aakhrat wale din sharmindagi na uthani pare aamin suma aamin duas.gif

oyeeee ...best of Luk Future mama
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Thankyou so much ...
Forever Green
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Apr 26 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]2841844[/snapback]
adaab arz hai

waisay quraan kahta hai k daulat, spouse aur kidz... yeh sab aazmish haiN insaan k liyeh ... agar hum inn teenouN ko baratnay maiN yeh khayaal rakhaiN k kaheeN hum Allah ki aazmaish maiN naakaam nah hojayaiN to yaqeen karaiN hamaiN kabhi dukh aur pareeshaani nahi hogi agar khoda nah khaastah (Allah nah karay... Allah nah karay) kissi wajah say aur kissi waqt hamaray haathouN say hamari kamaye howi daulat nikal jawe, hamaray spouse hamaray nah rahaiN ya hamaray rahtay howay hamaiN dukh denay lkagaiN aur hamaray kidz hamari harmumkin kaawishoun aur mehnat k bawajood achay aur kaamyaab insaan nah ban sakaiN...........Allah hum sab ko iss aazmaish maiN kaamyaab karay. yeh troika hamari zindagi ka mahwar haiN. issi liyeh Allah nay inhaiN hamari aazmaish qarar dia hai.




Jeee.....mein ne bhi ye Parha huwa hay .... Lekin Bhai soocha jay to Being a Muslim , har ek Pal Har ek Lamha hi hamare liye Aazamiesh hay ...ke kahin kuch ghalat na ho jay, kuch ghalat na keh dein, kuch ghalat na dekh lein ...har lamhe hi to hum Allah pak ki azmaish mein rehte hain ...hay naa?/
Forever Green
QUOTE(Airy_Princess @ Apr 27 2008, 06:38 AM) [snapback]2842344[/snapback]
Thankyou so much ...



U r Always welcome dear 0-hug.gif
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