Abu Adnan
Apr 29 2008, 12:49 PM
Q:Is it only the husband who can say ‘Triple Talaq’ and get one? - What has a woman to do, if she wants to get divorce or ‘Talaq’?
Dr. Zakir Naik:A woman cannot give ‘Talaq’ - because Talaq’ is a Arabic word used for divorce, when a man gives to a woman - husband gives to a wife - but a woman can divorce.
There are 5 types of divorce, in Islam
1. The first type is by unilateral… by unilateral agreement, between the husband and wife - Both may say… ‘Okay, we are not compatible… let us part’.
2.The second type, is by the unilateral will of the husband, that is called a ‘Talaq’, in which, he has to forgo his ‘Meher’. If he has not paid it, he has to pay it to her… and including the gifts, he has given to her.
3.Third type, is by the unilateral will of the wife - I repeat, by the unilateral will of the wife… if she mentions it in her marriage contract. If she mentions it in her Nikah-Nama… in her marriage contract, that she has the right to give unilateral divorce, she can give it - It is call as ‘Isma’. I have never heard of anyone speaking of an ‘Isma’ - It is called as ‘Isma’ - Even a woman can give divorce, ‘Isma’.
4. Fourthd category is, if the husband ill-treats her, or not give her equal rights, she has the right to go to a Kazi, and nullify the marriage - It is called as ‘Nikah-e-Fask’. In this, according to the Kazi, he may ask the husband to give the full ‘Meher’, or part of the ‘Meher’, depending upon the Kazi.
5.And the last is ‘Kulah’- that even though the husband may be a very good husband, the wife has got no complaints against the husband, but for personal reasons, she does not like the husband - she can request the husband, to divorce her - and that is called as ‘Kulah’.
But very few people talk about women giving divorce, to the men. Some of the Ulemas have categorized these 5 types of divorce, into 2 or 3 different categories, but broadly there are 5 types of divorce, in Islam. Hope that answers the question.
sahera
Apr 30 2008, 12:45 AM
Isma ka haq toh nikah namay par kaat he diya jata hay.....aap kay khayal isko katana chahiye kay nahi.....seedhi se baat toh yeh hay kay jab haq hay toh usko mehfooz karnay mey kya buraye hay?
kuch apni raye dijiye.
Abu Adnan
Apr 30 2008, 08:40 AM
QUOTE(sahera @ Apr 30 2008, 12:45 AM)

Isma ka haq toh nikah namay par kaat he diya jata hay.....aap kay khayal isko katana chahiye kay nahi.....seedhi se baat toh yeh hay kay jab haq hay toh usko mehfooz karnay mey kya buraye hay?
kuch apni raye dijiye.
1. sab say pahlay to musilm laRkiyouN ko awareness honi chahiyeh k islam nay onhaiN kia kia haqooq diyeh haiN... saath maiN faraaiz ka bhi pata hona chhaiyeh. meri aisee posts ka yehi wahid maqsad hota hai.... awareness ko aam karna.
2. jahaaN tak nikaah.naamah maiN 'ismaa' (aurat ko haqay talaaq tafweez karna) ko kaaTnay wali baat hai to yaad rakhiyeh k 'nikah' asal main aik 'social-contract' hai jo 2 afraad balkay 2 family k maabain hota hai... aur kissi bhi imaani mo'aa'hiday maiN 'fareeqain' koi bhi shart add karsaktay haiN yaa koi bhi option cancel karsaktay haiN........ har 'agreement' maiN amooman 'taqatwer-fareeq' apni sharaait par 'agreement karta hai aur doosra fareeq (majbooran sahi) issay apni will k saath 'accept' karta hai.
dauraanay nikaah larkay /larki walay 'dounouN' apni apni sha.raa'it rakhtay haiN aur jiss par 'fareeqain muttafiq hojayain, agreement /nikaah tay pajata hai. islam aisay agreement ko endorse karta hai..... amooman laRki walay 'ismaa' k haq par zor nahi detay yaa larkay walay nahi maantay... lekin agar dounoun agree houn to issay nikaah naamay maiN likha jaasakta hai....... iskay elawah bhi bahoot kuch nikaah.naamay maiN 'add' karwaya jasakta hai......... jaisay mard apni marzi say aur biwi say poochay beghair bhi doosri shadi karsakta hai. magar nikaah.naamay maiN larki yeh 'shart' likhwasakti hai k oski ijazat k beghair oska husband doosri shadi nahi karsakta (aisaa karna islam maiN allow hai, go k yeh maamool nahi)... laRki walay shadi ki soorat main separate rehaaish ka motaalebah karsaktay haiN jahaaN laRkay k parents, bahan bhai rehaish pazir nahi hosaktay.... laRki apnay 'jaib-kharch' k liyeh 'monthly fixed amount' nikaah.naamah maiN add karwasakti hai. apni marzi say haqay mahar likhaa aur talab karsakti hai, even before rukhsati. etc etc
Abu Adnan
Apr 30 2008, 08:46 AM
QUOTE(sahera @ Apr 30 2008, 12:45 AM)

Isma ka haq toh nikah namay par kaat he diya jata hay.....aap kay khayal isko katana chahiye kay nahi.....seedhi se baat toh yeh hay kay jab haq hay toh usko mehfooz karnay mey kya buraye hay?
kuch apni raye dijiye.
matured, taaleem.yaaftah aur saahibay hasiyat laRkiyouN k pass to yeh haq lazman hona chhaiyeh. magar aisee larkiyaaN kam hi hoti hai. jabkay beshtar laRkiyaaN kam taleem.yaaftah, kam aqal aur jazbaati hoti haiN. aisee laRkiyouN ko agar yeh haq mil jaye to woh choTi choTi baatouN maiN ghussay main aan kar apna ghar tabaah karsakti haiN.... asal maiN ladies (specialies biwies ) ko ghussah bahoot jald aataa hai aur bahoot jald hi rukhsat hojata hai. aur woh ghussay maiN alaa balaa bol jati haiN. issi liyeh laRkiyouN k khaliq Allah miyaaN nay by-default yeh haq laRkiyouN ko nahi dia. albatta agar koi laRki chahay to yeh HAQ talab karkay hasil karsakti hai.
sahera
Apr 30 2008, 02:52 PM
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ Apr 30 2008, 03:46 AM)

matured, taaleem.yaaftah aur saahibay hasiyat laRkiyouN k pass to yeh haq lazman hona chhaiyeh. magar aisee larkiyaaN kam hi hoti hai. jabkay beshtar laRkiyaaN kam taleem.yaaftah, kam aqal aur jazbaati hoti haiN. aisee laRkiyouN ko agar yeh haq mil jaye to woh choTi choTi baatouN maiN ghussay main aan kar apna ghar tabaah karsakti haiN.... asal maiN ladies (specialies biwies ) ko ghussah bahoot jald aataa hai aur bahoot jald hi rukhsat hojata hai. aur woh ghussay maiN alaa balaa bol jati haiN. issi liyeh laRkiyouN k khaliq Allah miyaaN nay by-default yeh haq laRkiyouN ko nahi dia. albatta agar koi laRki chahay to yeh HAQ talab karkay hasil karsakti hai.
aweeee hunsi aagaye aap ki baat parH kar...
Abu Adnan
May 1 2008, 08:12 AM
QUOTE(sahera @ Apr 30 2008, 02:52 PM)

aweeee hunsi aagaye aap ki baat parH kar...
*DhanaK*
May 3 2008, 06:02 AM
QUOTE(sahera @ Apr 30 2008, 09:52 AM)

aweeee hunsi aageye aap ki baat parH kar...
main to bas padhay ja rahi hoon ke yeh likha kya hai
Airy_Princess
May 4 2008, 03:35 AM
very nice topic
par bro mene appse aik baat pochni thi dovrce ko le kar k aik baar GEO par ye discussion ho rahi thi n in that discussion they said k aik tym main 3 bar kehne se talak sirf aik baar hi hoti hai ... koi ikhati 3 talakien nahi de sakta hai ... to plz lemme clear k ye kya hia
Abu Adnan
May 4 2008, 10:14 AM
QUOTE(Airy_Princess @ May 4 2008, 03:35 AM)

very nice topic
par bro mene appse aik baat pochni thi dovrce ko le kar k aik baar GEO par ye discussion ho rahi thi n in that discussion they said k aik tym main 3 bar kehne se talak sirf aik baar hi hoti hai ... koi ikhati 3 talakien nahi de sakta hai ... to plz lemme clear k ye kya hia
iss baray maiN 2 maktabah.e.fikar maujood haiN. aur dounouN hi quran o sunnat par mabni haiN. ajmaa.e.ummat (ittefaaqay roy) kissi aik par bhi nahi. lehaza iss waqt durust 'behaviour' yehi hai k bandah apnay apnay maslak (school of thought) ki pairwee karay.
1. aik waqt maiN 3 talaq denay say 3 talaq waqe' hojati hai
2. aik waqt maiN 3 talaq denay say 1 hi talaq waqe' hoti hai.
muslim society maiN dounouN par amal horaha hai aur dounouN hi durust hai..... islami tareeqah.e.tallaq say motalliq meri aik post islam section maiN "islamic divorce' k naam say post hochuki hai.
Abu Adnan
May 4 2008, 10:16 AM
QUOTE(shafaq @ May 3 2008, 06:02 AM)

main to bas padhay ja rahi hoon ke yeh likha kya hai
aik 'Ghalat kaam' ko karnay ka 'sahi tareeqah'
sahera
May 4 2008, 02:10 PM
QUOTE(shafaq @ May 3 2008, 01:02 AM)

main to bas padhay ja rahi hoon ke yeh likha kya hai
maine kuch ghalat likh diya hay?
Airy_Princess
May 5 2008, 12:32 AM
QUOTE(Abu Adnan @ May 4 2008, 10:14 AM)

iss baray maiN 2 maktabah.e.fikar maujood haiN. aur dounouN hi quran o sunnat par mabni haiN. ajmaa.e.ummat (ittefaaqay roy) kissi aik par bhi nahi. lehaza iss waqt durust 'behaviour' yehi hai k bandah apnay apnay maslak (school of thought) ki pairwee karay.
1. aik waqt maiN 3 talaq denay say 3 talaq waqe' hojati hai
2. aik waqt maiN 3 talaq denay say 1 hi talaq waqe' hoti hai.
muslim society maiN dounouN par amal horaha hai aur dounouN hi durust hai..... islami tareeqah.e.tallaq say motalliq meri aik post islam section maiN "islamic divorce' k naam say post hochuki hai.
toh bro ye kya masliq ka chakkar hai ... Ahl-e-Sunnat kiss baat ki peyrvee karte hian???
Abu Adnan
May 5 2008, 10:53 AM
QUOTE(Airy_Princess @ May 5 2008, 12:32 AM)

toh bro ye kya masliq ka chakkar hai ... Ahl-e-Sunnat kiss baat ki peyrvee karte hian???
ahlay sunnat ki kaseer tadaad aik nashisht maiN 3 talaaq ko teen talaa hi maanti hai .... magar jo log iss roy kay against rahna chaahtay haiN, woh doosri roy ko follow kartay haiN. waisay iss topic par islam section maiN alag say bahas maujood hai........ waisay yeh issue islam k onn basics maiN shamil nahi jin par amal dar aamad kufr-o-islam ka masla ban jaye. lehaza aik aam muslim dounouN maiN say kissi aik roy par bhi amal karsakta hai. wallah o alam bissawaab.
raat ki rani
May 7 2008, 10:13 PM
thnx very much for this info... i didnt knw abt this Isma thing n i alwayz used to think k yeh kaisey hO sakta hai k mard jab chahey aurat kO tallaQ dey dey phr tau aurat ki kOi value he nhi wOh tOtally mard k rehM o karaM pe hai wOh khush tau thek nhi khush tau talaQ... but nOw i understand k haQ dOnO k pas hai Magar i dOnt think haMari sOciety Mein larkiOn kO is bat ki awareness hai
*DhanaK*
May 8 2008, 08:12 PM
QUOTE(sahera @ May 4 2008, 09:10 AM)

maine kuch ghalat likh diya hay?
naheen tumnay naheen
Abu Adnan
May 11 2008, 12:51 PM
QUOTE(raat ki rani @ May 7 2008, 10:13 PM)

thnx very much for this info... i didnt knw abt this Isma thing n i alwayz used to think k yeh kaisey hO sakta hai k mard jab chahey aurat kO tallaQ dey dey phr tau aurat ki kOi value he nhi wOh tOtally mard k rehM o karaM pe hai wOh khush tau thek nhi khush tau talaQ... but nOw i understand k haQ dOnO k pas hai Magar i dOnt think haMari sOciety Mein larkiOn kO is bat ki awareness hai
aksar logouN ko pata nahi hotaa... aur bil.amoom mard hazraat khawateen k haqooq k baray maiN batlatay bhi nahi... jabkay islam dunya ka woh waahid deen / system of life hai jo aurat ko sab say zeyadah haqooq /respect deta hai magar magar western education system / media iskay bar.aks propaganda karta hai jissay hum log maan letay haiN aur khud quran o hadees ko study kartay nahi. yehi wajah hai k hum, bilkhasoos females islam say nalaaN hi rahti haiN. Allah hum sab ko sahi ilm ataa karay. aamen