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VrSoLdIeRs
zehen main kafi dino say baat ghoom rahi thi keh developed countries main yeh hota hai keh aap ki pay per hour kay hisab say hoti hai

unlike pakistan jahan monthly pay milti hai... chahy aap kaam kar rehay hoon ya absent hoon 1-embaressed_smile.gif



which system would you prefer???

dono kay apnay faiday hain like per hour ka faida hai keh employer bilawajah latka kar nahi rakhta like banda agar 9-9 job kar raha hai to usko paisay bhi utnay miltay hain... jitna kaam karta hai uskay hisab say

but on the other hand agar aap kisi wajah say aik din ya do din miss kar jatay ho to aap ki pay bhi mari jati hai dunno.gif

Kashif
wazahat to aap nay khud hi kar di hay soldier donon systems kay baray mein smile.gif

jahan tak mera khyal hay per hour wala system behtar hay Pakistan mein kiyunke aksar jaga aap ko duty hours say thora ziada kaam bhi karna parrta hay.........iss tarah aap kaam karein gey to reward bhi milay ga aap ko .....yeh ehsaas nahin hoga kay meray sath ziadti ho rahi hay ......aur iss ka drawback wohi hay jaisay aap nay kaha kay agar kisi waja say aap ko chutti karni parrti hay to pay nahin milti.....leikin kuch panay kay liyay kuch khona to parrta hay na
Kanch k1 gur1a
ahan.. i think per hour wala system ziyada behter hia.. ap jitni mehnat karoge utna phal milega.. warna yahan to jo full employement walay log hote hian.. kam hota hai unke pass.. per kisi or ko forward kardete hain.. or khud beth ke gappien marte hian.. ya ghoomte phirte rehte hain.. or jab pay ka time ata hai to sab se agay hote hian.. or kum bhi pay nai hoti inki...
VrSoLdIeRs
alrite so u ppl think keh per hour is better... but its like wat kindda steps can v take to implement this... cuz agar aap ko 8 hours ki job kay paisay miltay hain aur aap ka boss kehta hai keh 2 hours aur karo magar checkout time 8 hours ka hi hoga... then??
Kashif
QUOTE(VrSoLdIeRs @ May 27 2008, 01:48 AM) *
alrite so u ppl think keh per hour is better... but its like wat kindda steps can v take to implement this... cuz agar aap ko 8 hours ki job kay paisay miltay hain aur aap ka boss kehta hai keh 2 hours aur karo magar checkout time 8 hours ka hi hoga... then??

phir to masla ho jayay ga poster_oops.gif
iss tarah to bhai agar aap ka boss hi aap ko exploit karay to woh to kisi bhi tareeqay say kar sakta hay ....negative zehenyat aur khud gharzi ka to koi ilaj nahin
Kanch k1 gur1a
QUOTE(VrSoLdIeRs @ May 27 2008, 01:48 AM) *
alrite so u ppl think keh per hour is better... but its like wat kindda steps can v take to implement this... cuz agar aap ko 8 hours ki job kay paisay miltay hain aur aap ka boss kehta hai keh 2 hours aur karo magar checkout time 8 hours ka hi hoga... then??

well yehi bat hia.. ishi liye yahan pakistan main is tarhan se nai chalti... kyunke kahin per boss loyal nai to kahin per employer loyal nai hia... mere previous office main. yeh benefit tha.. if you are workin extra hour.. you will be paid as 25 US$ for each hour. and 8 hours must kaam hota tha... or salary wages bhi fir strong thay unke..
*Life*
i think per hour wala system batter hota hai
VrSoLdIeRs
QUOTE(Kanch k1 gur1a @ May 27 2008, 09:56 AM) *
well yehi bat hia.. ishi liye yahan pakistan main is tarhan se nai chalti... kyunke kahin per boss loyal nai to kahin per employer loyal nai hia... mere previous office main. yeh benefit tha.. if you are workin extra hour.. you will be paid as 25 US$ for each hour. and 8 hours must kaam hota tha... or salary wages bhi fir strong thay unke..

i thot u were in pakistan dunno.gif

alrite so rather then changing the system hum agar "over-time" ko hi proper bana lain.. thats easier no??
VrSoLdIeRs
QUOTE(M Kashif Nisar @ May 27 2008, 09:53 AM) *
phir to masla ho jayay ga poster_oops.gif
iss tarah to bhai agar aap ka boss hi aap ko exploit karay to woh to kisi bhi tareeqay say kar sakta hay ....negative zehenyat aur khud gharzi ka to koi ilaj nahin

magar abhi bhi wohi hai na aap ka boss kehta hai keh job agar 9-6 hai bhi tub bhi aap ko 11 bajay tak kaam karna paray ga.... koi aur tareeqa hona chahiyay 1-embaressed_smile.gif
Perplexed Soul
yar maine dono main job ki hai

per Hour ka hisaab nahin tha wahan per aesa kuch tha ke aap
jitna kaam karte thay aapki ID main data save hota tha to uske
hisaab se pay milti thi, mere kheal se yahi sab se acha tareeka hai


wese pakistan ke ager Govt idaron main yeh hi system
aajaye to unki athanni chawanni bhi nahin milni poster_oops.gif
VrSoLdIeRs
QUOTE(Perplexed Soul @ May 27 2008, 05:06 PM) *
yar maine dono main job ki hai

per Hour ka hisaab nahin tha wahan per aesa kuch tha ke aap
jitna kaam karte thay aapki ID main data save hota tha to uske
hisaab se pay milti thi, mere kheal se yahi sab se acha tareeka hai
wese pakistan ke ager Govt idaron main yeh hi system
aajaye to unki athanni chawanni bhi nahin milni poster_oops.gif

hmm.. magar dekho agar punch card ki machines rakh di jain keh har banda job par aa kar aur janay say pehlay apna card us machine main enter karay to uska time note ho jaye... aur saath main camera bhi ho so that surveillance hoti rehya keh check in karnay wala banda yehi hai... aur woh centerally controlled ho so that us section ya branch kay log effect na kar sakain... 1-think.gif
tihami
well actually there is a bit of confusion in this post... U r obviously talking about UK... Its true to the extent of most jobs but not to all. as I m doing job and I have a set amount of basic pay + a suppliment of some % depending upon my monthly working hours. I emans to say that If we are asked to work 56 hrs/wk on an average then we will get basic + 80% of basic pay. If job is 48 hrs then basic + 50 % etc . it doesn't matter whether u r on ur annual leave in that month. say I m going for annual leave from 1st-18th july and still will get my full pay for the month of july though I have worked js 10 days in that month...

qamarkhan984
i think per hour hi thek hai

wages bhi achi ban jati hian

but ager pakistan main perhour wala kam kia gaye tu woh kamyab nahi hai

aik mazdoor ka tu hour 30rs bana ga na

any ways under paid or minimum wage per post banao tu batana main na uss per taqreer kerni hai
tihami
QUOTE(qamarkhan984 @ May 27 2008, 01:34 PM) *
i think per hour hi thek hai

wages bhi achi ban jati hian

but ager pakistan main perhour wala kam kia gaye tu woh kamyab nahi hai

aik mazdoor ka tu hour 30rs bana ga na

any ways under paid or minimum wage per post banao tu batana main na uss per taqreer kerni hai



to bhai aap apna bhasahn dainay k liyay khud hi post start kar laain na.. baki loug bhi entry day dain gey
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(tihami @ May 27 2008, 05:51 PM) *
to bhai aap apna bhasahn dainay k liyay khud hi post start kar laain na.. baki loug bhi entry day dain gey

hhahahah yeh ap dukhti rag per hath na rakhain aik UK keh NEW COMER per.

main ap ko yahan hi ap sa poch laita hn keh UK main under paid ka rewaj kis na dala

or minimum wage kab berha gi

tihami
QUOTE(qamarkhan984 @ May 27 2008, 02:04 PM) *
hhahahah yeh ap dukhti rag per hath na rakhain aik UK keh NEW COMER per.

main ap ko yahan hi ap sa poch laita hn keh UK main under paid ka rewaj kis na dala

or minimum wage kab berha gi



bhai minimal wage I think abhi to increase hoee hay koi 7.30£/hr or some thing as far as I know..

albatta agar aap asian shops par kaam kar rahayy houn tu istahsaal k liyay tayyar rahain..

(b/c our pay scales are different so I dont know exactly this per hr waging system )
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(tihami @ May 27 2008, 06:27 PM) *
bhai minimal wage I think abhi to increase hoee hay koi 7.30£/hr or some thing as far as I know..

albatta agar aap asian shops par kaam kar rahayy houn tu istahsaal k liyay tayyar rahain..

(b/c our pay scales are different so I dont know exactly this per hr waging system )


bhai jan ap na 2030 ki minimal wage bata di

filhal minimum wage 5.52 per hour hai or oct main 5.75 honi hai

asian shop per isi dukh sa tu ker nahi raha bacuz of thier minimum wage is too minimum

kuuaaburr.gif
tihami
QUOTE(qamarkhan984 @ May 27 2008, 02:31 PM) *
bhai jan ap na 2030 ki minimal wage bata di

filhal minimum wage 5.52 per hour hai or oct main 5.75 honi hai

asian shop per isi dukh sa tu ker nahi raha bacuz of thier minimum wage is too minimum

kuuaaburr.gif


bhai door beeni bhi koi cheeze hay...
but r u sure it is 5.72?? I think I heard something else. I may b wrong though.

There is one thing I must say.. try to get ur degree (if u r here for studies) and then find ur proper job, rather than these odd jobs,, otherwise its jz waste of time and health and in the end one has nothing.
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(tihami @ May 27 2008, 07:19 PM) *
bhai door beeni bhi koi cheeze hay...
but r u sure it is 5.72?? I think I heard something else. I may b wrong though.

There is one thing I must say.. try to get ur degree (if u r here for studies) and then find ur proper job, rather than these odd jobs,, otherwise its jz waste of time and health and in the end one has nothing.

han g filhal 5.52 hai
han g i also observed keh od jobs ka koi faida nahi

but studies keh baad koi offical job mila iss ki bhi koi guarentee nahi yahan UK main

racist hian yahan bhi loug
tihami
QUOTE(qamarkhan984 @ May 27 2008, 03:27 PM) *
han g filhal 5.52 hai
han g i also observed keh od jobs ka koi faida nahi

but studies keh baad koi offical job mila iss ki bhi koi guarentee nahi yahan UK main

racist hian yahan bhi loug



well baat racism ki naheen.. hay.. in ki bhi majbori hay, they have to give prefrence to UK and EU candidates. then comes the number for non-EU like us.. Its same as in pakistan if the people from Afghanistan starts getting jobs and our own people are refused.
doosree baat yah k degree has its own value, one of my friends from karachi, rather two (both brothers) got their bachelors from here. One of them is in Australia now for masters and other one got job in USA (awaiting visa).
and aboveall one has some thing to take back home .
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(tihami @ May 27 2008, 07:32 PM) *
well baat racism ki naheen.. hay.. in ki bhi majbori hay, they have to give prefrence to UK and EU candidates. then comes the number for non-EU like us.. Its same as in pakistan if the people from Afghanistan starts getting jobs and our own people are refused.
doosree baat yah k degree has its own value, one of my friends from karachi, rather two (both brothers) got their bachelors from here. One of them is in Australia now for masters and other one got job in USA (awaiting visa).
and aboveall one has some thing to take back home .

hmmm g luck ki bhi baat hai
but strugle kerna ki bhi bat hoti hai na

i will strugle

but i think degree la ker pakistan jana hi better raha ga

lets see what will hapen abhi time hai mera pass ap dua kerain ju behter ho wohi mera haq main ho
tihami
QUOTE(qamarkhan984 @ May 27 2008, 03:38 PM) *
hmmm g luck ki bhi baat hai
but strugle kerna ki bhi bat hoti hai na

i will strugle

but i think degree la ker pakistan jana hi better raha ga

lets see what will hapen abhi time hai mera pass ap dua kerain ju behter ho wohi mera haq main ho


ALLAH aap k haq main bahtar kray..

struggle sab hi kartaay haain .. I came here in March 2003 and got my job in feb 2004. so u can imagine 11 months awaiting for job to start......
by the way London main hou kia???
Fani
I think International system bahter hai..
Aur wahan pay bhi har weekend ko milti hai( i think so)
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(tihami @ May 27 2008, 07:42 PM) *
ALLAH aap k haq main bahtar kray..

struggle sab hi kartaay haain .. I came here in March 2003 and got my job in feb 2004. so u can imagine 11 months awaiting for job to start......
by the way London main hou kia???

oh so sad

itna lamba wait

main tu wapis bhag jata ager mera sath aisa hota tu

any ways i am in newport Crdif keh sath hi hai Wales main
tihami
QUOTE(qamarkhan984 @ May 27 2008, 07:44 PM) *
oh so sad

itna lamba wait

main tu wapis bhag jata ager mera sath aisa hota tu

any ways i am in newport Crdif keh sath hi hai Wales main


well us k baad say mustaqil job par bhi tu haain na ,, 4 years in NHS. waisay bhi I didn't do any odd job. was waiting for my medical job to start.

hmmmmm we r cming to cardiff in end of june.......... graduated.gif for an exam..
Kashif
QUOTE(VrSoLdIeRs @ May 27 2008, 03:07 PM) *
magar abhi bhi wohi hai na aap ka boss kehta hai keh job agar 9-6 hai bhi tub bhi aap ko 11 bajay tak kaam karna paray ga.... koi aur tareeqa hona chahiyay 1-embaressed_smile.gif

I think ....per hour walay system mein itna exploit nahin kar sakay ga boss ..........kiyunke working hours say ziada kaam karwana aur baat hay ........leikin jab usay pata hoga kay worker per hour kay hisab say kaam karta hay to phir ziada kaam karwa kar kam pay dena mushkil hoga us kay liyay
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(tihami @ May 28 2008, 06:24 AM) *
well us k baad say mustaqil job par bhi tu haain na ,, 4 years in NHS. waisay bhi I didn't do any odd job. was waiting for my medical job to start.

hmmmmm we r cming to cardiff in end of june.......... graduated.gif for an exam..

ahan bas g kismat ki bat hai

ap cardiff ayen tu hamara pass zaroor stay kerna newport main

main or death angel ap ka wait kerani

ana zaroor hai bhai icon_peace.gif
Fani
HC per sub hi Imported Maal Hai... Koi Local Nai hai????
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(Fani0300 @ May 29 2008, 12:39 AM) *
HC per sub hi Imported Maal Hai... Koi Local Nai hai????

bas ap hi landa bazar sa ho icon_peace.gif
Fani
QUOTE(qamarkhan984 @ May 29 2008, 12:48 AM) *
bas ap hi landa bazar sa ho icon_peace.gif


Jasa Bhi Houn

Proud PAKISTANI HOUN.. ALLAH KA SHUKAR HAI.... phir Landa Bazar Kia Itwar Bazar Bhi chalay ga.... icon_peace.gif
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(Fani0300 @ May 29 2008, 12:55 AM) *
Jasa Bhi Houn

Proud PAKISTANI HOUN.. ALLAH KA SHUKAR HAI.... phir Landa Bazar Kia Itwar Bazar Bhi chalay ga.... icon_peace.gif

yar dont mind main na mazak kia tha bas

hum bhi pakistani hain or humain bhi proud hai

samjha ker na yaar
tihami
QUOTE(qamarkhan984 @ May 28 2008, 08:18 PM) *
ahan bas g kismat ki bat hai

ap cardiff ayen tu hamara pass zaroor stay kerna newport main

main or death angel ap ka wait kerani

ana zaroor hai bhai icon_peace.gif


chlaain try kartay hain.... icon_peace.gif


aap address waghaira dassain gey tu try karain gey na... breakface1.gif
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(tihami @ May 30 2008, 12:02 AM) *
chlaain try kartay hain.... icon_peace.gif
aap address waghaira dassain gey tu try karain gey na... breakface1.gif

han g zaror sab kuch bata daita hn

waisa ap apni profile ke chaker lagain wahan main na comment bhi kia hai ap ko

adress main ap ko PM ker don ga

ap mujha date bata daina ana ki ap ki city sa cardiff bohat dor perta hai i think so
tihami
QUOTE(qamarkhan984 @ May 29 2008, 08:06 PM) *
han g zaror sab kuch bata daita hn

waisa ap apni profile ke chaker lagain wahan main na comment bhi kia hai ap ko

adress main ap ko PM ker don ga

ap mujha date bata daina ana ki ap ki city sa cardiff bohat dor perta hai i think so



actually aap ki bhabi ka exam hay 20th n 21st ko cardiff hosp main.... we r gonna stay in Gloucester for 2 nights..n will commute from there... I'll try my best to c u ..
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(tihami @ May 30 2008, 12:12 AM) *
actually aap ki bhabi ka exam hay 20th n 21st ko cardiff hosp main.... we r gonna stay in Gloucester for 2 nights..n will commute from there... I'll try my best to c u ..

ALLAh un ko kamyab fermaye ameen

ap pori koshish kerna cardiff sa newport 15 min ki drive hai bas

baqi adres or postal code main ap ko PM ker don ga
tihami
QUOTE(qamarkhan984 @ May 29 2008, 08:17 PM) *
ALLAh un ko kamyab fermaye ameen

ap pori koshish kerna cardiff sa newport 15 min ki drive hai bas

baqi adres or postal code main ap ko PM ker don ga


n apna contact no bhi..
qamarkhan984
QUOTE(tihami @ May 30 2008, 12:18 AM) *
n apna contact no bhi..

han g pM ker dia hai ap ko

or ap ko mubarak ho 14000 posts ker lin cheerleader.gif
Fani

Mujhko job day do Pay Jasay Marzi Dayna..... Pakistani NoJawaan Ki Awaaz
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