salaam alaik,,

hua kuch yun k mien apne baba k sath passport office mien thi ..to wahan ek badi umr k aadmi molvi se they ...bilkul ..wo bethe the hamare saath seat per ..samne do aurtien ai ..ab unki dressing bhi aisi thi ..k un k PAENCHEY neeche se kafii uper they ..jo so called CAPRII kehlata hai ...to yeh uncle apne baraber wale se kehne lagey ..KEY DEKHO YEH HAMARE ISLAM MIE EK NAMAZI AADMI KA KAAM HOTA HAI YEH AB YE AURAT BHI YUNHI PEHENEY LAGGAE ,,woh aisa keh he rahe they k wo aunty ai or aisa tamasha bana dia us uncle ka K SHARAM NHI ATI KAB SE GHUREY JARAHE HO KAB SE GHURE JARAHE HO ..unki aankhien sharm se neeche he thi unhone nazrien uthai he nhin ....phr wo wo uth k chalegae office k ander ..itna afsoos hua bohut ziada ....

khair se yeh to aam he hain ..jahan aurat ka libaas aisa ho wahan mard ankhie jati he hain..to app mujhe yeh bataen ..k kehte to hain k AURAT KO AISA LIBAAS NHI PEHENNA CHAHIYE JISEY MARD K NAZRIE US PER JAEN..
OR DOSRI TARAF YE BHI KEHTE HAIN ISLAM MIEN K MARD HO YA AURAT US KI NAZAR GHALTI SE BHI KISI NA MEHRAM PER GAI USEY ALLAH K DAR SE NAZRIEN JHUKANI CHAHIYE ,,,

To kia kisi ko point out karna sahi baat hai ya nahi ?? app kia kehte ho is muamely mien ...mujhe kai din se yeh baat kehni thi ...mujhe bada wo tha k usko atleast wo aadmi itna kehta k "BIBI AP KAPREY AISE PEHNOGI TO NAZRIEN TO HAR KISI KI JAENGI" ...

to khair app apni rae thodi sii share karein is barien mien ...

Aik Common see uljhan share ki hay aap ney ... k jiss par agar .. detail sey na bola jaey tou ... iss Na Insaafi ho gee... !!

Ye Baat tou tey hay k .. " Shetaan " azal sey " Adam " ka dushman hay ...
aur ussey baraiyon ki taraf raghib karney ka koi Mouq'aa Haath sey nahin janey deta .. aur iss andaz main Insanon par .. apni giraft mazboot karta hay k .. bohut saari batain ... aur Ehkaam e Elahi hum Bhool jatey hain .. aur uss k Vasvason main ghirr jatey hain ..

tou hamain ye Hukm tamam din kahan yaad rehta hay..
k apni nazrain neechi rakhney ka hukm diya gaya hay...!!
uss waqt tou ... ankhon k samney jo manzar " dilkash " ho gaa.. wohi chhaya rahey gaa...

yahan main aik .. sacha waq'eaa add karna chahoon gaa.. jo hay tou kuchh ajeeb saa..
lekin iss topic k reply ko bohut wazeh karta hay ...

" Main aik baar karachi empress market sey buss main sawar huwa.. buss abhi Chali nahin thee..
ahesta ahesta rengtey huwey .. uss park k samney aa kar khari ho gaee jo .. market k Uss jabib hay.. Uss Park main aik ajeeb manzar dekhney ko mila ... wahan aik .. Hosh o Havas sey aari ( Pagal) aik .. Middle age aurat ... taqreeban Libaas sey bey behra ... moujood thee... !!
buss main mojood pessengers ki Nazren lazman .. uss tarf bhe ga'een .. lekin joon he jiss ki nazar parti .. aik lamhey he main .. wapass palat kar doosri janib ho jati thee.. !!

yahan hamain .. Ehkam e Elahi Kulli tour par yaad thay ... !!

Buss Chalney k aakhri lamhat main aik fassion zada Khatoon sawar huien ...
aur Driver k sath wali front seat par jamm gaeen .. un ka Libaass kuchh zyada hay
Davat e nazar dey raha thaa...
mainney dekha .. k uss Lamhey .. Shetaan ney .. Hukm e elahi .. hamarey zehnon sey mehv kar diya ..
aur taqreeban ... Buss k tamam .. musafir .. jiss tarah bhe mumkin ho .. Uss manzar sey ... Lutf andoz ho rahey thay ... "

Tou iss waq'ey ko yahan add karney ka maqsad sirf itna thaa .. k Insaan .. bohut bey buss hay ..
shaitaan k vasvasey hamesha usey gherey rakhtey hain ..
iss liey ... dono .. mard o Aurat par Lazim hay k ...

wo Apni zaat ko Jins e Mukhalif k liey .. bohut zyada attrective bana kar na paish karey ..
aur Libaas hamesha .. Jism ki posheedgi k liey hona chahiey ... !!

( Kuchh zyada he details ho chuki hain .. lekin shayed ye zrori bhe tha )

daikhaain ghaltee tu doonoon taraf say hay,, dawat-e-nazara bhi naheen milna chhayay, an agar milaay bhi tu mard zaat ko us dawat ko qabool bhi naheen karna chahyay.. hamaree history main tu woh bhi hay k jab muslims city ko fatah kar k enter hoaay tu non-muslims nay bay-libas khawateen un k istaqbal k liyay khara kar deen n kisi aik muslim ki bhi nazar un ki tarf na uthee....
ab yah amal main bhi hu -- us k liyay iimaan ki taqat chahyay ju k baghair mahnat karnay say hasil naheen houtee.. ham kamzoor iiman k sath yah sab kuch refuse nahen kar saktay.. aur iiman ko mazboot n taqat-war bananay ka hamaray pass time naheen..

Mere Khayal Main insan apni izzat khud kerwata hai
agar aap ko khud hi apni izzat aur libas ka koi khayal nahi hai to phir log dekhain ya na dekhain is per aap aitraz kernay walay kon hotay hain

is sa tu yeh zahir ho raha hai keh aurat ki resposibility zayada hai keh woh apna libas ka khayal rakha keh mard dekhain hi na unhain

donon hi baatein ghalat haiN

aurat ko apnay libas ka khyal rakhna chahiyay kiyunke zahiri si baat hay jo apnay aap ko haya say aazad kar dey us ki taraf to sab log dekhein gi hi ....dawat-e-nazara dey kar ghoornay par ehtajaj karna ajeeb si baat hay....leikin yeh bhi haqeeqat hay kay aksar mard dekhtay hi ghalat andaaz say hain

dosri baat yeh kay mard ko bhi koshish karni chahiyay kay apni nigah aur khyalaat ko qaboo mein rakhay kiyunke sab say un kay aamal ki pooch honi hay .........koi comment pass karnay ki bajayay khamoshi hi ikhtiyaar karna behtar hay

SA
ummm sab hi key rplys achay hain and niCe to read 'em
just to share a lil thing k i have read an article which was based on statistics or males ki raye poochi thi abt increasing rate of women-violence so us main bhi main vaja Women key dress ko point kia gya tha...~~improper dressing~~

SA k qstn main yeh ajeeb baat lagi k even those women didn't wore proper dresses[they 4sure even knew it] and still blaming males for their behavior and wierd looking style ..

Isey kehtey hain ... " Chori aur seena zouri "

detail hee janni thi shukriya ..

or hamare haan kahin pe koi deeni rule rakha hee nhi hai libaas k muamley mien ..agar yeh rule nikali jae to itni fahashi nhi hogi haina??

or mien to akser tokti hun sumtyms amma mana kardeti hain ..to kia yeh sahi hai?? mujhe tokna chahiye k nhin?

very true brother ..

ALLAH HAR AURAT KO IZAT DEY u knw jab hum bhi aisii dressing pe dekhte hain aurtu ko to sharm se hamari apni bhi ankhien jhuk si jati hain ..us taraf ka rukh nho mortey jahan aise log aise libaas k sath khadey hon ..

or ajib ter baat to yeh hai k un k sath un k bhai abu bhi hotey hain

bilkul sahi..zahir hai ap aise libaaz pehen rahe ho ap ko itna to pata he hoga k ap ne yahi soch k pehna hoga k bahir sab ki nazrien jaengi mujhpeee mien achi to lagun yeh soch kar k he kuch pehna hoga phr khuam kha ka aetraz wala drama kaisa?

[b]aurat ki to hai he magar mard ki bhi hai k wo apni nazrie us per na uthae ..yeh kia baat hui auurat aise libaas pehney kasur uska bhai hum to dekhiengey ,,,,ALLAH ne ankhie di kis liye hain .. [/b]

haan bilkul yahi to mie pochna chahrahi hu comment paas karte hain halankey commnts hotey bhi PATTEY k hain phr aisa karna chahiye k nhi?? in sum points i feel k karna chahiye ab us aurat ne khud ko kia he aisa hai k mujhe dekhien ..hum bahir thoda sa saj dhaj k jate hain kiu? kiu k v say hamie log dekhengey to kaheingey kaise uth k agai hai ? hum usi base se tayar hoongey na to phr is chiz k liye bhi prepaire hona chahiye

i tell u unhoneunko itna ghura bhi nhi but unki bad luck ek he nazar mie pakre gae unki sharafat ser jhuka he raha ,,,or i bet agar un uncle j=ki jaga koi BADEY SE FIT KISAM K JEANS SHIRT MIE KOI UNCLE HOTE NA I BET U WO KABHI SUNATI BHI NHI UNKO ..

wohii too mujhe bhi herat huii kafiii aisi ajib dressing koi nazrien bacha he nhi sakta tha ...ajib log hain

sharm-o-haya tu aurat ka zaiwar hay.. I think jab prolonged exposure hu tu ahista ahista ahsasaat marnay lagtay haain.... n woh cheeze normal houtee jaatee hay... I still remember jab maira medical college main admission hoaa tu for the 1st 3 months I was in Multan(nishtar med coll) n then came to Lahore for the rest of the studies.. n it was a sudden change of atmosphere.. (though aaj kal k halaat say bohat bahtar) laikin it was like a shock.. k jaisa larkyaan baghair parday k theen waghaira waghaira.. so ahista ahista us ki adat hou gayee..
so I think yahi haal un families ka houta hay k male members ko aisa kuch feel nahen houta.....

Baat Mard ki Nai ...............sirf Ankhon ki hay ......un aankhon ki jin mein sharm-o-haya na rahi ho...

Aesa sirf mard nai karte balke aurten bhi karti hain .... yoon kehna chahye ke mardon ko to hum ye keh kar barii kar sakte hain ke Aurton ki dressing ki waja se woh loog aurton ko dekhte hain ...

Lekin wat abt Aurat........... jab ek aurat mard ko ghoor ke dekhti hay to uska kya matlab hota hay ??? jabke mardon ki dressing ko bhi atleast Pakistan mein blame nai kiya jasakta..

Ek personal xperience sunati hoon..

Me n me ke hubby shopping karne gey ....In Peshawar ... to wen we were crossing road ...ek larki ne jo me ke hubby ko ghoorna shuroo kiya to uffff .......inna ghussa aaya me ko ke kya bataon .......... me ke hubby ne bhi notice kar liya tha ...den unko pata chal gaya ke me ko ghussa aaya huwa hay us stupid larki ki waja se to me ko jalaane ke liye kehne lage ke "pehle koi nbatamez nai dekhti thi ...jab se shadi huwi hay sab hi larkyan lift karwane ke chakar mein hain " n he was smiling...

me ne kaha " Kyon ke shadi ke baad hi aap ke chehre per noor aaya hay is liye"

To jee ........hota hay aesa ......kahin larkyan kharaab hoti hain kahin larke.... Buss Iman ki Kamzori ki Alamat hay ye aur kuch nai ...

pishawar main sab kuch ulta hi houta hay..

shukar karain k koi larki hi dikh rahee thee ap k hubby ko...

aurton ko is tarha ke libaas nahin pehnna chahiye
aur mard ki ager aik bar nigah chali gai ghalti se to
phir dobara nahin dekhna chaiye.

right!
Buss Iman ki Kamzori ki Alamat hay ye aur kuch nai ...
FG reasoned quite exactly k "choori or seena zori" ki vaja kia hey

u know wt almost roz hi mujhey yeh sun'na parta hay[4m males] k see us ki dressing kesi hay...bla bla and they have to watch tht woman till tht time jab tak woh nazroon sey sey hat nahi jati...or mujhey isi baat pr ghussa aata hay k why are u looking at her, then aur jese PS ney kaha k pehi nazar k baad dobara nahi dhaikna to whats the point of seein' her all the way ab dessing us ki kharab hay...to phir ap kyun Aaqbat kharab kar rahay ho ...aik nazar par gai so fine,,ab apni nazar neechay kar lena chahyea...haina? so **Gohar ki baat yahan bhi applicable hay on males~" Chori aur seena zouri "~

comments pass karnay mein bhi 2 tarah kay log hotay hain na ..........aik woh jo aisi aurton ko dekh kar commnets dein aur doosray woh jin ki aadat hi aurton ko ghoorna aur ghatya comments dena ho chahay woh comments sar-e-aam hoon ya doston mein beth kar hoon

mera khyal hay jis kay apnay ander haya hoti hay woh aisa manzar dekh kar bhi ignore kar deta hay aur comments pass nahin karta .......kiyunke comments denay say shaitani jazbaat ko hawa milti hay aur phir baat mazeed buri sochon ki taraf chali jati hay ....point of discussion aurat ka jisam & s*x par chala jata hay

haan jo waqia aap nay bataya us mein to ghalti us aurat ki hi hay aur us nay khud tamasha banaya wahan
may be aap ki baat sahi ho kay agar koi modern banda wahan hota to woh shor na machati aisay

sahi kaha bhai ..or aisa tab bhi hota hai jab ghr ki badi aurtien he yu ho ..to phr bachey bhi aise hote hain or mard samajta hai aisa he riwaaj hai ...or agar tab mard mana karna bhi chahey to beti k sath sath maan bhi tokne pe ajati hai ..batameezi per ..

hehehehehe DIL BEHLA LIA APNE KHUD HE APNA

aisa to aamm hai he sista yahan .... ab to larkiyan larlu ko zehmat karane nhi deti khud hee CHIT PHENK K NUMBER DE DETI HAIN
WAQT ANE PE ANKH BHI MAR DETI HAI

lekin mostly mard ki ankh to tab be hayai se dekhne lagti hai jab ek aurat k kaprey aise ho ..

hehehehehe waqai

bilkulllll usi waqt astakhfaar parhna chahiye

true .... or aisa bhi hota hai ek aurat dosre aurat ko point karti hai magar uska apna bhi aisa he haal hota hai ..buh dey think k ATLEAST MERI DRESSING AISI TO NHIN

yeh baat bhi thik kahi ...

Oiiiiiiiii Maaaaa...Shub Shub bolen Bhai

Pata nai aaj kal ki generation ko kya ho gaya hay ... lolzz am not dat Old either but like teenagers ..... Khud ko itna degrade karne lage hain ke buss...

Woh jo ek Waqar hota hay Larki mein, Haya, Ik Ana sab kuch hi ab khatam ho gaya hay ....may be kuch larkyan ab bhi bahot achii hoon but mostly jo sun'ne mein aaya hay Allah ki panah

Haan Mard to hamari society mein shuroo hi se aese the Lekin ab kya kiya jay ...... ke hain to hamare hi Bhai naa

Thanks ji

yehi to problem hay~ hum khud to theek hain,ghalat to 2sray hain~

issi tarah to burai barhti hey!

sab mujhee say kahtay haiN nigaah neechi rakh apni
koi onn say nahi kahta, nah niklo youN ayaaN hokar

khair yeh to baat baraye baat hai. islamic teaching to aap nay khud hi batlaadi k

1. mard ko hukm hai k k kissi khatoon par nigaah paRay.. aur dil maiN aisaa waisaa khayaal aaye to apni nigaah fauran nichee karlay ... naa.monaasib lebaas maiN kissi female ko dekhay to nigaah nichi karlay.

2. aurat ko hukm hai k woh bahar nikaltay waqt nah sirf yeh k apnay satar ko covered rakhay balkay opposite @@@ ko attract karnay wala (outer) libaas pahan kar bahar nah niklay.

lekin as a MARD mera wastah to bahar har qism ki aurtouN say hota hai. lehaza maiN sab say pahlay to apni hifazat k liyeh apni nigaah neechee rakhany ki koshish karouN. 2ndly jab aur jahaaN bolnay ki quwwat rakhouN, naa.monaasib libaas waliyouN ko ahsan tareeqay say / hikmat say iss taraf tawajjah dilaayouN. fasaad say bach.tay howay... khawateen albatta iss maamlay maiN baRa aham role adaa karsakti haiN... woh aisee khawateen ko zeyadah behtar tareeqay say samjha sakti haiN.

being a LADY, mujhay apni hifazat k liyeh laazman apnay hijaab ka khayaal rakhna hoga. bilkhsoos bahar jatay howay, makhloot mahaul maiN job /shopping etc kartay howay....... as I know k mard ki jinsi ish.tehaa oski aankhouN say baRhti hai aur woh achay haseen chehray / libaas dekh kar oskay dil maiN kuch kuch honay lagta hai, aisay maiN woh 'apna control' kho sakta hai.... jabkay aurat k dil maiN kuch kuch tab hota hai jab oskay kaan mardanah awaaz maiN roomani baataiN sonaiN......... issi liyeh females ko mardouN say tanhaa baat karnay ko mana kia gaya hai k woh mokhatib ki shaatraanah guftagoo say apna 'control' kho sakti hai. it's natural.

baRa tajarbah hai aap ko peshawer walouN ka

kabhi kabhi aap jaisay 'bazurgoon' k tajurbaat say bhi faida utha liya jaata hay.... zati tajarbay ki bajaay...

I wad damn serious while reading this post and your this reply made me laff in real .. ..

abi tk saray replies apnay apnay context mai theek hai .. i dun find any thing jis pr debate ya object lagao. hr aik nay apnay apnay personal xperience + observations add ki hai .. n mai b thori si add kr loun.

kuch males k liye ye matter hi nahi krta wat a female is wearing .. if they wana STARE -- they will .. no matter that girl is fully covered or not. Similarly, most of the gals now (specially the gals from elite class or burger families) know wat kinda dressing they are wearing, they know they are xposing and they know that boys are STARING at them - but they still love it and to your astonish the love to gossip among their friends that today "That guy" was staring at me .. etc.

jaisay k tihami bhai nay likha .. aik taraf say dawat bhi hoti hai .. aur aik taraf say us dawat ko qabool b kiya jata hai .. ..

na tu mairay reply main kia funny thaa...

I was damn serious also..........

JAZAK-ALLAH usuf bhai....... for detailed comment...

hamare bhai to hain magar yeh hum kehte hain wo maantey hee nhin ,,, app kisi ko BHAI kehker dekhien ...usey apni behnien yaad ajaengii to sadiyun se bhul gae ho ..

first of all bro i was w8ing for ur reply ...since i posted dis topic ..
bilkul achi detail mien or sahi baat kahi appne ...

being a LADY, mujhay apni hifazat k liyeh laazman apnay hijaab ka khayaal rakhna hoga. bilkhsoos bahar jatay howay, makhloot mahaul maiN job /shopping etc kartay howay....... as I know k mard ki jinsi ish.tehaa oski aankhouN say baRhti hai aur woh achay haseen chehray / libaas dekh kar oskay dil maiN kuch kuch honay lagta hai, aisay maiN woh 'apna control' kho sakta hai.... jabkay aurat k dil maiN kuch kuch tab hota hai jab oskay kaan mardanah awaaz maiN roomani baataiN sonaiN......... issi liyeh females ko mardouN say tanhaa baat karnay ko mana kia gaya hai k woh mokhatib ki shaatraanah guftagoo say apna 'control' kho sakti hai. it's natural
TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to bro aise logon ko mur k khari khari suna dena thikk hai ??

true yara ,,,hijaab mien bhi aise ghurte hain ,,,, ALLAH mafii ,,,, aurat ko sharam ajae ...

Jhootaiy ko Jhoota boolaingaiy to Takleef to hogi hi

Khair Doosroo'n k Aib chupana paasand kiya gaya haiy

Dawat Aam honi chahiyeh
kissi ko pin point nahi karna chahiyeh

Buzurg ki baat sahi par waqt aur tareeqa ghalat tha

Owrat ka libaas na sahi par .. laikin usko uss waqt wo baat baat nahi gali lagi aur gali koi bardasht nahi karta



Aik Dafa maira aik cousin signal par khara tha ... i mean gari signal par khari thi aur wo usmaiy baitha tha
itnaiy mai aik motorbike aayee aur uss par aik sufaid darhi walaiy buzurg baithaiy thaiy ... aur unkaiy peechaiy aik larki ghair munasib libas aur khulaiy baaloo'n mai baithi thi

mairaiy cousin naiy khirki khool kar kaha ... babaji ya to iss larki ko kapraiy dhang k pehna lo ya apni darhi kata loo ... aur keh kar bhaag nikla

peechaiy saiy baba ji pata nahi kon konsi latest gali nikaltaiy rahaiy

yahi tooo samaj nhi kagti suna deni chahiye aise logon ko...leki u knw wat phr unhone apko hee point karna hota ha,..,,k app khud to aise ho waise ho...HUM TO DOOBEY SNAAM TUMHE BHI SATH LE CHALENGEY

adaab arz hai

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to bro aise logon (mardouN) ko mur k khari khari suna dena thikk hai ??

meray khayaal maiN aakhri had tak aisay mardouN ko 'ignore' kia jana chahiyeh... bilkhasoos jab tak laRkiyouN ko ... haaN tang aamad, bajang amad k taur par khari khari sonaanay balkay os say aagay baRhnay maiN bhi koi mozaiqah nahi. bah shartekay aap ki backing pay support force maujood ho... sab say aham baat yeh k apni family, parents, husband etc ko sooratay haal say lamha bah lamha baa.khabar rakhna chahiyeh. sab kuch akelay face karnay ki GHALATI kabhi nahi karni chahiyeh. SHIKAARI amooman TANHAA ko SHIKAAR kartay haiN.

mard agar saray raahay kissi bhi laRki ko kuch kahay (khaah laRki ketni hi ghalat kiyouN nah ho) to FASAAD ka khatrah hi hota hai aur fasaad ki soorat maiN log khah makhaah laRki hi ki hamayat par otar aatay haiN........ lehaza shaanti, hikmat ka daman nahi choRna chhaiyeh.

best yeh hai k out door / dafatar / shopping areas etc maiN deger samajh.daar khawaateen aisee bay.hayaa khawaateen ko araam o sakoon say hikmat say samjhayaiN k iss tarah bahar nah niklaa karo warnah..... tumhaaray saath kuch bhi hosakta hai .. aur 1/2 e.g. day di jayaiN k dekho falaani k saath kia howaa thaa (any latest news k hawalay say) etc etc

Europe ka to haal aap sub ko pata hi hay......

ek dafa main nay ek interview parha us aadmi ka jo khawateen k saath **** karta tha........us nay kaha k ek bachi about 7-yrs old ko main nay sirf is liye kidnap kia tha k jub wo mini skirt pehanti thi to mujhay us ki legs bohat attract karti thi.......

this situation occured where the ppl and social set up is more civilized.........what can we say more..........n specially 4 our society n ppl

bus Allah tala hamain MAZBOOT IIMAN ki dolat ata farmaye, ameen

reh gai baat point out karnay ki to dear i think k zaroooooooooooor tokna chahiye q k "amer bil-maroof wa nahin an-il munkir" ka hukm hay..............tareeqa kia ho wo aap moqa mahal ki munsibat say soch lain

101% durust farmaya bhai apnney...
lekin in some way ..lyk mien apna kehti hun kabhi to miene sunadiii dar dar k lekin mien mostly khari kharii suna zarur deti hun...is baat ka mujhe bhi darr rehta hai k agey se kuch ulta sidha na hojae ..
lekin yeh bhi hai k agar mien bhai baba se kahun ..to mera wahan jana he band hojaega ...kabhi kubhaar ye soch k nhi kehti
kabhi kubhaar yahi k kuch nhin hotaa choti si baat hai thik hojaega!! or shayad mien ghalat hon

haan magar aisi aurtien KUDRATAN samajhti nhin ..ulta mun bana k chali jati hai ...

ch ch ch .. bechari ..

SAHI BAAT HAI SISO

AMEEN SUM AMEEN

correct!!!!!!!!!