These are some of the highlights of PM Gilani's speech at CFR on 29/July/08:http://www.cfr.org/publication/16877/gilan...?breadcrumb=%2Fwhy he wants to thank people who are outright hostile towards Pakistan and Islam..
"I want to express my thanks and appreciation to Mr. Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, and Ambassador Wendy Chamberlin, president of the Middle East Institute, for such a warm welcome extended to me by the prestigious institution. I thank Mr. Richard Haass for the kind introduction."
"The reality of suicide bombings has struck my homeland. Scores, even hundreds, of innocent people have been murdered. Pakistan has paid a terrible price. We have been a painful victim of terrorism, extremism and fanaticism."
"At this time of continuing crisis, we need to understand those who use violence in the name of Islam. They are not clerics, they are criminals. Their actions contradict the teaching of Islam."
Gilani quoting BB to accuse muslims for 911... why not impeach him for outright lying and framing muslims for a well-researched false flag zionist operation.. for which non-fascist people have no doubt.. ??
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The Muslim people want freedom. They want modernity, diversity and democracy. They want the right to debate, discuss and dissent. As Shaheed Benazir Bhutto wrote, I quote: "When al Qaeda hijacked airplanes to attack the United States, it tried to hijack the message of the religion of Islam, as well. In doing so, it ignited the great battle of the new millennium. The murder of almost 3,000 innocent people in the name of jihad is only antithetical to the values of the civilized world, but not contradictory to the precepts of Islam. The terrorists exploited images of savagery and brutality for political advantage, just as demagogues before them manipulated Islam for political gain. The damage was not limited to New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. Muslims and the Muslims' world became their victims too," unquote.
our PM gets applause from zionist audience... really i wonder who authored this speech, most probably our very own Neo-con Hussain Huqqani... [here he also tries to implicate Muslims for BB assassination.. i wonder if they already know who did it .. why's all the fuss about UN investigation... ???]
Ladies and gentlemen, my government is working to restore law and order into our cities under assault from terrorist attacks. We are striving to restore the writ of government in all parts of our country. We are striving to save Pakistan from terrorism and extremism. The forces who want to destabilize democracy in Pakistan are still at work. We are no one's surrogates. We are fighting to save the soul of our homeland, to save Pakistan.
This is not Charlie Wilson's war. This is Benazir Bhutto's war. (Applause.)"In 1996, after the PPP's government was overthrown, the Taliban immediately seized Kabul. They invited al Qaeda into Afghanistan to raise, recruit and train disaffected Muslims youth from various countries. The West's untimely exit from Afghanistan after the Soviet defeat in 1989 created a power vacuum which the fanatics were only too eager and ready to fill."
why would he want to say this...
"The world must not repeat the mistake again in Pakistan. Pakistan cannot afford to fail.
The world cannot afford for us to fail."
again according to our PM the problem faces the "civilised" world is Islam...
Ladies and gentlemen, democracy and prosperity are the two most potent weapons in the arsenal of (the) civilized world against the fanatics and extremists. Just as democracies do not make war against other democracies, democracies also do not sponsor terrorism. And the people of stable, prosperous democracies do not harbor and shelter terrorists.Those of us who are committed to human rights and democracy abhor terrorism in all its murderous forms."Building a moderate, stable and democratic Pakistan can save both South Asia and the world from conflict, bloodshed, extremism, misery and despair."
"The greatest challenge, the most immediate challenge, I see, is to overcome terrorism."
this quote seems right out of some Mushy's speech..
"It must be combined with
multi-pronged approach that combines views of political, economic, administrative and military measures. That is our task, to not only defeat terrorism on the battlefield but to strangle it at its roots."
"Prosperity chokes off the oxygen of terrorism."
"I am confident that an effective ROZs plan would surely go a long way in helping us contain and destroy extremism and terrorism, giving the people hope for the future and giving them a tangible economic stake in the success of Pakistan's democracy.
Similarly, the $2 billion FATA plan, to which the U.S. has contributed $750 million over a five-year period, would help accelerate social-sector development in the tribal areas, contributing to the efforts to rescue the tribal people from the clutches of ignorance, extremism and foreign terrorists.
And of course, all of Pakistan was heartened by the unanimous passage earlier today by the United States Senate Foreign Relations Committee of the Biden-Lugar bipartisan plan for a 10-year, $15 billion nonmilitary commitment by the United States to the people of Pakistan. This legislation also had the support of President Bush, who is eager for democracy to succeed in Pakistan."
"A stable, prosperous and democratic Pakistan can be the centerpiece of the triumph of liberty and the defeat of fanaticism and terrorism around the world. This is the Pakistan for which Shaheed Benazir Bhutto gave her life. This is the Pakistan for which we must live.
Thank you very much. (Applause.)"
after his speech in QA session:
"GILANI: That we have inherited. This is not the problem of only these three to four months, because
you are also fighting the war in Afghanistan for the last five years, and you can also see -- realize the difficulties you are facing. And this is not a war which is a normal war. It is a guerrilla war. And nobody is trained for a guerrilla war. But certainly now we have had a challenge, and we will -- with God Almighty's blessing, we will be able to accept the challenge and overcome the problems."please somebody ask PM from which "god" are "they" [bush and gilani] expecting "blesssings"...
"GILANI: Actually, you are considering Mr. Musharraf as a president of the United States. This is not the case, because there is a parliamentary form of government; here is a presidential form of government. And you can compare me with Gordon Brown, the prime minister of U.K., or --
HAASS: I hope your political numbers are higher. (Laughter.)
GILANI: -- no, no -- and Manmohan Singh, who is the prime minister of India. Therefore, we have inherited the Westminster system, a parliamentary form of government where the chief executive is the prime minister and not the president.
HAASS: I understand.
Let me ask the question a different way, then -- (laughter) -- beyond President Musharraf, which is whether you think now in the army there is a broader acceptance of a more limited role for the army. Do you think now the coming generation of army officers accepts the notion that their proper role is in the barracks rather than in politics?
GILANI: Certainly, yes. Because of the 18th February election of this year, we have a mandate to the moderate forces, to the democratic forces in Pakistan. And the moderate forces and the democratic forces, they have formed the government. And therefore the people have voted against dictatorship and for democracy, and therefore, in future even the present of -- the chief of the army staff is highly professional and is fully supporting the democracy.
HAASS: One of our senior fellows at the Council on Foreign Relations, Dan Markey, has recently produced a study called Securing Pakistan's Tribal Belt, and it's a study about the FATA and what needs to be done there. And one of the questions I would have is whether it's possible to imagine a different relationship between the central government and the FATA, and essentially to end the unique status of the FATA and to integrate it more into Pakistan like other parts of the country.
GILANI: Exactly you really don't know the exact position of FATA. FATA is already under the federal government. And there are two governments. There's a provincial government and the federal government. And the FATA is under the federal government. Therefore it is controlled by the governor, who is the nominee of the federal government. Therefore it is under the federal government.
HAASS: I understand that it's under the federal government. But it also enjoys, shall we say, a slightly different status or reality than other parts of the country.
GILANI: They have -- (inaudible) -- and they have senators. And interestingly all -- (inaudible) -- and the senators are supporting me.
HAASS: Okay.
Well, we wish you well with that. (Laughter.)"
our PM is a laughing stock.. another similarity with G. W. "HAASS: I just have one last question. And then we will open it up to the floor.
You spoke positively about the action today in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee which, I understand, the committee voted in favor of the so-called Biden-Lugar.
GILANI: You can very well imagine how well-informed I am. (Laughter.)"
"GILANI:
I think the policies of the United States are quite consistent. Whatever the policies they have, that will be the same in future as well, more or less.well he gets full points for this...
"But at the same time, we think that Pakistan has a unique situation. And strategically it is in a position that we can help any government, United States to fight the war on terror. Because we have enough position to really contribute a lot."
"HAASS: Well, staying in the legal area, we have a(n) anonymous question from someone who's shy out there about corruption, and the question of what your plans are to do to decrease corruption and promote the rule of law in Pakistan.
GILANI: In fact, I -- we have decided in the charter of democracy, which was signed by Benazir Bhutto and Mr. Nawaz Sharif, who were the two opponent parties, we decided that there should be a procedure and a(n) institution which is headed by the judge of the supreme court or the judge of the high court on any person who qualifies to be a judge, and it should be acceptable by both the parties, by the leader of the house and the leader of the opposition, and this should help for the accountability. But previously, whatever the system was, that was the National Accountability Bureau, which was under the chief executive. Unfortunately, the same system is now under me, which I don't want to accept it because I myself had the National Accountability Bureau -- I was sentenced for 15 years. I spent in jail for five years according to -- according to NAB laws, but according to jail manual I have spent 10 years in jail because of their law. How can I control that, that should be under me? Because I'm a party. Therefore I don't want anything to be under the executive; it should be under the judiciary or it should be independent.
Therefore, I believe in accountability, I want to root out corruption. And we -- but that institution should be such that nobody can point a finger on it."
"HAASS: Are you worried in any way Pakistan's integrity is threatened from within?
GILANI: By and large, majority -- means I can say 99 percent people of Pakistan -- they are patriot. They are -- they want one Pakistan should progress. They want prosperity. They want peace. They want development. And they are pro-Pakistan. And only handfuls of people, who are the militants, they want to destabilize Pakistan. And I am -- I assure you that Pakistan is united and it is together, and they are all pro-Pakistan."
"GILANI: In fact, as I mentioned earlier, that even in FATA, the majority of the people, they are peace-loving and they don't want such sort of warlords or militants in their areas, and they hate them. But we -- I assure you that we will not do any sort of agreement with the militants. We will only talk to the people who have decommissioned themselves, who have laid down their arms, and they have surrender. We will only talk to them."
"HAASS: I think I know the answer to this question from Dennis Lamb, who used to be an ambassador, but I'm going to ask it anyhow: Do you think that Americans understand Pakistan? (Laughter.)
GILANI: They understand Pakistan more than what I know.
(Laughter.)
HAASS: Is that yes or no? (Laughter.)
GILANI: Certainly they know Pakistan very well. Even when I was talking to the presidential candidate yesterday, McCain, he was telling me that "I've been to Waziristan, I've been to FATA, I've been to Pakistan," and he is very familiar with the situation."
this is what he has to say about Kashmir...
"HAASS: You mentioned in your answer to one of the earlier questions that you hope to engage the Indians on what you describe as the core issue, which is Kashmir. And Howie Schaffer, a retired ambassador and one of this country's leading South Asia hands, asked a question about whether you would like the United States to play any particular role vis-a-vis Kashmir.
GILANI: They should encourage and support this issue.
HAASS: What does that mean?
GILANI: That means that -- only they can understand.
GILANI: That means that only they can understand. (Laughter.)
HAASS: Well, for example, would you want a U.S. envoy, like we have towards other parts of the world? Would you want the United States to play a high-visibility, active mediating role? Is that the sort of thing you would welcome or not? Or is that not necessary? Could you and India --
GILANI: Actually, what the United States really want, they can do it.
HAASS: Well, we will take our cue in part from what India and Pakistan would want. So your -- I would simply point that -- point that out.""One issue which has come up a lot in the presidential campaign as part of our debate is what you might call the question of American unilateralism, which is if for whatever set of the reasons, the Pakistani government is unable to deal successfully with security challenges in its own country, it leaves the united States with the possibility or the option of acting unilaterally itself to try to deal with security challenges. What is -- what is your position on that?
GILANI: I didn't follow.
HAASS: If the government of Pakistan, for whatever reason, is unable to manage --
GILANI: In Pakistan.
HAASS: -- in Pakistan -- security challenges from militants or terrorists or whatever wants to call these individuals or groups, does the United States -- and imagine some of these groups continue to do things in Afghanistan, among other things killing American soldiers -- what is the government's reaction, then, to unilateral American military action?
GILANI: Actually, if you think that we are unable to control our security, I'll disagree with you. We have the capacity and we have the ability to control the situation in Pakistan but for the militants. They are the people who are creating problems. They are not from Pakistan. They are from Chechnya; they are from Uzbeks; they are from other parts of the world. They are from Afghanistan.
They come to our area, but definitely we hit them. When we hit them, they go to Afghanistan. When Afghanistan people hit them, they come to Pakistan. But we want that those people -- they are the people who are highly trained and they have the highest -- the most sophisticated weapons with them. I don't know from where they've got. They are (pouring/putting ?) money in our area in dollars. I don't know from where they're getting from. And these are the things which are disturbing both of you and both of us, and we are are not able to control them and you are not able to control them.
That's a problem for both of us. Therefore, we want to work mutually to counter them so that there should be more cooperation in the intelligence, cooperation between United States and Pakistan for a credible and actionable sort of information so that we can take something -- we can act swiftly.
HAASS: So I take it from that you would prefer that the United States not act unilaterally inside Pakistan.
GILANI: I think when they can give an information to us, credible information or something which is actionable, we can do it ourselves.
But at the same time, in Afghanistan you are using the sophisticated weapons, but in our side we don't have the sophisticated weapons. Our constabulary, our Frontier Corps, our frontier constabulary, they are fighting with the old guns and they are not that sophisticated. Therefore, we have to strengthen our law enforcement against this too. And that, we are doing it. They are not meant for fighting militants. That is a guerrilla war. And that is disturbing the peace in the whole world, and that's everywhere in the world.
HAASS: Would you then agree with the argument that -- a lot of people would agree with you that the Frontier Corps does not have the capacity in some ways --
GILANI: No, again I want to tell you that in the other parts, when they come they are with the sophisticated weapons. But you as a NATO are using sophisticated weapons there and yet they are fighting. Therefore, when we are totally equipped with the latest weapons, we can also take on. That's not difficult for us.
HAASS: Does that then suggest that a reorientation of what we --
GILANI: More cooperation.""HAASS: Last question from Jeff Pryce, who talks about the significance of the spread, the proliferation of nuclear materials and missiles. And obviously the A.Q. Khan history is a bad chapter in all that.
The question is, where does this policy fit with your government? And what assurances can you give, to the United States and others, that something like this could not and would not happen again?
GILANI: Certainly it cannot happen again. And that chapter is over. His network is broken. (Off mike.)"
Mr. PM vindicates the "guilt" of oue Hero DR. AQ KHAN...
about ISI..
"One of the issues that has come up repeatedly in the history of U.S.-Pakistani relations, and three or four people here tonight -- (name inaudible) -- have raised it, is the question of ISI: its relationship now with the rest of the government, and whether indeed it is under governmental authority and civilian control or whether, in any way, it is operating, shall we say, independently.
GILANI: In fact, the ISI is quite established in Pakistan. And it is -- it has been very good relations with United States, our ISI, and they have worked together. (Laughter, applause.)
And at the same time, it is under the prime minister. Therefore they will do only what I want them to do.
(Cross talk.)
Again short answer; you can ask me another question.
HAASS: So if we have differences or problems with ISI, we now know who to go to.
GILANI: If there are differences --
HAASS: -- or problems.
So you actually feel now that ISI --
GILANI: ISI or the army or -- (inaudible) -- is under the civilian government. And that is under the chief executive."