Admin mutwajju hon k naam se yahan ek post ki gai hai jis mein mujh par ilzam lagaya gaya tha, ya to uss post ko hi khatam kar diya jata ya muje wahan jawab dene diya jata aur phir lock ki jati post...... iss tarha bagher doosray shkhs ki baat sunay post lock kar dena uss member ko defame karnay mutradif hai.......Ek baat mazeed k issi section mein Daylight aur...... k naam se bhi ek post hai , tumhein yaad ho k na yaad ho Forevergreen ne ek baar music k topic mein lajawab honay par mere naam se 2,3 posts bana di thi aur issi shikayat section mein ye faisla hua tha k topic title ya description mein kisi member ka naam likh kar shikayat nahi ki jaaye gi ye defame karne wali baat hai........ to ab kyun ye ijazat di gai ???? aur akhir mein likh diya k ab k baad aisi posts entertain nahin hon gi, kyun ???? ab to main bhi banaon ga aisi posts doosron k naam le kar warna wo post bhi khatam ki jaaye...... ye koi tareeka nahin , that is unfair.


Hussain maavia wrote



Main ab admin se poochta hon k jhoota ilzam laganay walay ki kya saza ??? Awwal to huusain maavia ka ye kehna hi ghalat hai k mene Quran k kisi lafz ko maazallah change kar diya....... tarjumay mein ikhtalaf baray baray ulama mein hua hai aur issay Quran ki ayat ka lafz change kar dena nahin kaha ja sakta......... Mera sawal ye hai k iss shakhs se poocha jaaye k Quran ka wo konsa lafz hai jisay daylight ne change kiya ??? yahan inn sahib ne tarjumay ka nahin likha k change kar diya iskay alfaz hain k Quran ki ayat ka lafz change kar diya......... aur agar ye shakhs ye baat sabit na kar sakay to iski kya saza ???


Phir yehi hussain maavia apnay dost gambler ki post pesh karta hai jis mein mujh par ilzam hai k mene surah talaq ki pehli ayat ka ghalat tarjuma pesh kiya hai jis se mafhoom hi badal gaya ayat ka.........


Sub se pehle apko ye dikhata hon k mene tarjuma kahan se liya aur phir dikhata hon k dono tarjumay sahi hain aur dono ka ek hi mafhoom hai.......

Mera kiya hua tarjuma Maudodi sahib ki tafseer se liya gaya hai see it

http://www.tafheemulquran.org/Tafhim_u/065/surah_all.htm

Aye Nabi jab tum loag aurton ko talaq do to unhein unki iddat k liye talaq diya karo


Yahi tarjuma Quranweb.com par bhi majood hai





Aur yahi tarjuma Allama Shakir ka bhi kiya hua hai jo k authentic tareen shumaar hota hai ,

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/065.qmt.html

SHAKIR: O Prophet! when you divorce women, divorce them for~ their prescribed time, and calculate the number of the days prescribed


Ab dekhna ye hai k dono tarajim se ayat k maani mein koi farq parta hai k nahin......

Allama Shabbir Ahmad usmani sahib ne gambler aur hussain maavia wala tarjuma kiya hai aur wo iski tashreeh mein likhtay hain.........

Iss ayat ka matlab hai k haiz se pehle haalat e tuhar mein talaq do ta k sara haiz ginti mein aaye, agar farz kijiye k halat e haiz mein talaq de ga to do haal se khali nahin k jis haiz mein talaq di usko iddat mein shamil karein gey k nahin, ..... mashrooh tareeka ye hai k halat e tuhar mein talaq di jaaye aur hadith se ye qaid bhi sabit hai k uss tuhar mein suhbat na ki ho


Aur main b yahi kehta hon k yahi hai talaq ka tareeqa aur phir iddat k andar rajoo kar lene ka hukam ek aur ayat mein hai.......



Ab poocha jaaye inn logon se k duniya mein shabbir ahmad usmani ka tarjuma wahi to nahin k wohi sahi hai ya mufti shafi ka tarjuma k wo wahi hai aur maudodi aur shakir waghera ka ghalat........

aisay oachhay hathkanday kyun apna rahay hain ye loag aur kyun sakoon se daleel ka jawab daleel se nahin de rahay islam section mein ??? kyun yahan bhaagay chalay aatay hain bilawajah ??? inka time faaltu hai to kya baqi sub ka bhi faaltu hai k prep class k bachon ki tarha har doosri baat par shikayat le kar yahan pouhanch jatray hain aur hamesha moonh ki hi khaatay hain ........

Dear DL
wo post kion lock ki gai thi,,, uska seedha sa jawab yeah hey ke yahan debate start na ho,,, issi liye Abdullah bhai ne iski hosla shikni ki aur isko band kertey huey islam section main hi rahney ka kaha,,,, aur aisi posts aur debates wahan hi kerney ka kaha,,, aur aisi kissi bhi post yeah reply ke liye REPORT ka button use kerney ka kaha,,, aur jahan tak apki thinking hey ke yah apko defame kerney ke mutradif hey,,, tu yeah sarasar ghalat hey,,, haan yeah ghalti zaroor hui hey ke usko lock ker ke chor diya gya,,, jab ke ussey del ho jana chahiye tha,,, kion ke uska purpose poora ho gya tha,,, aur unhain proper way guide ker diya gya tha,,, lekin ghaltiaan insaan se hi hoti hain,,,,, aur aisa ghalti se hua,,, iss main apki tazheek hazgiz matloob na thi

aapki doosri baat bhi bilkul durust hey,,, lekin 1 tu khalish bhai pakistan gye huey hain,,,, main bhi kafi busy hoon,,,, aur Abdullah bhai bhi,,, issi ajah se kai batain zahan main nahin rahtin,,,, aur jab apko wahan pe posting kertey huey daikha,,, tu aur sakoon ho gya,, ke aap khud hi ma'amley ko nabair lain gey,,, agar aap ussi waqt iss baat ko pointout ker daitey,,, tu yaqeenan post ke martam wahan hi ker diya jata,,,, iss jagah jahan ham sa bhool hui,,,, wahin aap se bhi thori chook ho gai,,,,, tu chalain iss ilzaam ko ham mil ke baant laitey hain.

Post iss liye lock nahin ker raha ke ke ho sakta hey ke aap ne mazeed bhi kuch kahna ho,,, all other replies relevent to translation of ayt will be deleted and only shikayat matter could be discussed

JazakAllah MJb bhai Abdullah bhai ki baat ko mazeed achay tareeqay say apnay sumjhaya abb hum yahaan post nahi karayingay islam section ki baat InshahAllah wahin discuse hogi .


or Daylight app esko apni tehzeek nahi sumjhayin asal main Hc k new rules ki waja say new members ko ya jinki
post600 say kam hain islamic section main reply ya thread start karnay ki pabandi hai jis say ek dosray ko jawab daynay ya koe baat sumjhanay main sakhat mushkilaat hain or masail bhi aysay discuse horahay hain jinka jawab fori
dea jana zarori hai..

tu abb main InshahAllah sab k jawab apko wahaan donga jab tak baqi members ko allow nahi kia jata ..


JazakAllah
wsalam

MJB , lock kar dein issay muje apki sub baaton se ittefaq hai....... thanx

Gambler dear last 2,3 days se musalsal yahan posts ho rahi hain, agar kisi ko kuch aitraz hai to islam section mein post karay, hussain mavia ko ya apko wahan post ki permission nahin kya ?? aur agar wahan nahin kar saktay to sabar bhi kar saktay hain , cheekhne ki zrurat nahin yahan aa kar k haye ye ho gaya aur wo ho gaya.......

Na sirf yahan posts aati rahi balkeh aap ne report post bhi kar di admin ko k najanay kya ho gaya ayat badal di.... kamaal hai..................propaganda bund karein aur shikayat section ko islam section na banain.....


MJB dear mene pehle wo baat point out iss liye nahin ki thi k ek hi post hui thi to mene socha koi baat nahin lekin yahan pe baar baar jab aisa hua aur pm bhi anay lagay to tab mene apna ehtajaaj record karvaya....

Allah Hafiz.

Thanks for comprehesion,,, khushi hui ke aap ne hamari ghalti ko maaf kiya....

hussain mavia sunny prince ali mavia etc abhi Islam section main post nahin ker saktey,,,, lekin jab yeah pabandi lagi thi,,, tab gambler aur imran rana bhi nahin ker saktey,,, lekin inhoon ne thori himmat ki,,, aur 600 posts ker ke iss qabil ho gye,,,,,,, filhaal gambler bhai,,, qasid ka kirdaar ada ker rahey hain,, inkey khyalaat wahan tak pohanchaney main

so the post is locked now