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IrrAtionaL MethanE
aoa .. .. ..

as the title suggest - I am gona put down the things i have analyzed about marriages n the reason of their failure and want your feedback whether i am wrong or right.

I never blamed on any sort of marriage (love/arrange) that this kind a marriage is gona flop (like most of the people who have categorized that arrange marriages are flop or love marriages are flop).

The arguments I have to prove a love marriage a fiasco are quite strong compared to arrange but over all i believe that %age of love/arrange marraige of being flopped is like 40/60 and in some cases it's 50/50 .. .. .. but recently i have witnessed few events which made me realize that supporting on the fact that arrange marriages are successful isn't that strong that much i believed.

I have witnessed 3 recent arrange marriages and all of these 3 have been ENDED! .. in one case husband divorced, in second case husband used to beat his wife and parents have now broght their daughter back and in 3rd case, the husband did a second marriage and after 3 years he is telling that he will only give monthly EXPENSE and will never come to the house (he is happy with new wife).

so wat is the reason? I don't know what could be the reason in above cases, I can't tell what could be the reason in any other marriage for its failure .. the only thing that i can think is some points which may be the reason for a successful marriage irrespective of the fact whether its arrange/love.

I think being supportive, believe, co-operative and having respect for each other are few major thing that are the baseline for a successful marriage. It does not need to be necessary that these are essential in love marriage or arrange marriage. Relationship having these baseline are totally dependent on the person sharing the relation, their maturity and their mentality.

so raising a finger on a marriage and saying that it's caz it was a love marraige/arrange marriage is totally rubbish. All i think it's 'caz the PEOPLE who didn't valued their relation to make it successful.

so what you people say - the reason for failure is 'caz they are married (love/arrange) or the reasons are in the PEOPLE who get married?
sweet_angel
salaam alaik

very nice topic o info alee ok.gif

or tumne khud he apne is sawaal ka itna acha answer de dia hai
bilkul . . . is tarah ki tumne arrange marriages k cases dekhey to miene aise kaii love marriages aise love marriages jisper larki or larka dono ne itni jidojehed ki ..
kher all i want to say k
shadi wo achi hai jis pe app ka dil or app k maa baap ki khushi or razamandi shamil ho . . .
or dosri baat . . ek dosre ki izzat karna .. is must to put ur married lyf in a proper way u hafto give nd take respect nd jahan izzat hogi wahan pyarbhi aega pyar aega to compromising bhi hogi . . . in maii way
dese 3 things r matters alot
maan baap ki khushi razamandi apki razamandi k sath..
izzat
compromise
Gn0m3r.X
Don't get married unless u really want to E9.gif
Perplexed Soul
QUOTE(IrrAtionaL MethanE @ Oct 3 2008, 01:41 AM) [snapback]3071308[/snapback]
aoa .. .. ..

as the title suggest - I am gona put down the things i have analyzed about marriages n the reason of their failure and want your feedback whether i am wrong or right.

I never blamed on any sort of marriage (love/arrange) that this kind a marriage is gona flop (like most of the people who have categorized that arrange marriages are flop or love marriages are flop).

The arguments I have to prove a love marriage a fiasco are quite strong compared to arrange but over all i believe that %age of love/arrange marraige of being flopped is like 40/60 and in some cases it's 50/50 .. .. .. but recently i have witnessed few events which made me realize that supporting on the fact that arrange marriages are successful isn't that strong that much i believed.

I have witnessed 3 recent arrange marriages and all of these 3 have been ENDED! .. in one case husband divorced, in second case husband used to beat his wife and parents have now broght their daughter back and in 3rd case, the husband did a second marriage and after 3 years he is telling that he will only give monthly EXPENSE and will never come to the house (he is happy with new wife).

so wat is the reason? I don't know what could be the reason in above cases, I can't tell what could be the reason in any other marriage for its failure .. the only thing that i can think is some points which may be the reason for a successful marriage irrespective of the fact whether its arrange/love.

I think being supportive, believe, co-operative and having respect for each other are few major thing that are the baseline for a successful marriage. It does not need to be necessary that these are essential in love marriage or arrange marriage. Relationship having these baseline are totally dependent on the person sharing the relation, their maturity and their mentality.


so raising a finger on a marriage and saying that it's caz it was a love marraige/arrange marriage is totally rubbish. All i think it's 'caz the PEOPLE who didn't valued their relation to make it successful.

so what you people say - the reason for failure is 'caz they are married (love/arrange) or the reasons are in the PEOPLE who get married?



tumne khud hi jawab dedia E9.gif
classic
Compromises nai kerte aik dosre k liye.......thats the biggest reason i guess!
zealot
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tenha_saima
Get a life ! bored2.gif

Airy_Princess
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well pehli baat tou yeh wot I think k love/arrange marriage ka tou concept hi khatam ho gya hai mostly ju bhi hoti hai abb tou woh lub marriage hi hoti hai ... I am saying all this because pehlay ye concept tha k g arranged marriage ho rahi hai larka larki aik dosre ko jante nahi ajnabi hain ajj se almost 10 saal pehle aur abb baat paki hui nahi k batein start ... abb issi stage par log aik dosre ko hubby n wife tasavur kar baith te hain ... mostly tou ghoomne phirne bhi jaate hain aur even aft eng hi they would like to call themselves ..."MR" and "Mrs" aur maa baap ko b koi aaitraaz nahi hona so kya aaisi arranged marriage ko hum arranged hi kahien ge bus ... kuch situations main ajjkal issi stage par stamp lag jati hai breakups ki k bus aik dosre se mile understanding na hui aur baat khatam aaisa love eng main bhi ho raha hai so all in all ajkal ki jaany waali "Marriage" ..."Marriage" kehlati hai smile.gif

abb aatey hain Marriages toot ti kyun hain aur woh bhi ajkal arranged ones chalo both ko hi kar lete hain so simple why people give diavorce to eachother smile.gif iss ka ans sirf yeh nahi hai k bus jee aik dosre ki respect nahi karte compromise nahi karte nah ... its not only* like that ...

*sab se pehle tou jab Fiancee+Lover transform hota hai Husband main ... one has to forget k abb wo app k paalay paalay nakhre uthaye ga cuz aft marriage log aik dosre ko *Granted* lete hain yehi hoti hai pehli ghalti jab app aik dosre ki impr aik dosre ko samajhna hi chorr dou ...

*phir ajjkal I must say kay koi ginti chunti k log hi aaise hon ge jinko shaadi se pehly pyar na hua hoga poster_oops.gif jisko dekho uska affair hai ya tha ... abb jab baat yeh ho tou sab se bara factor ju yahan aata hai woh hota hai *Comparison* yeh kaam sirf mard hi nahi karta bal key aurat bhi karti hai ... k mera life partner wesa nahi jesa k mera *first love or Love* tha aur jab comparison start hota hai tou woh bhi rishte k weak honay ka aik step hota hai...iski misaal main aik true lyf experience se dongi k yeh baat ajj k zamane ki hi nahi buht pehlay ki bhi hai meri best friend ki mama unnki pehli shaadi issi baat par tooti thi ... Maa baap ne zabardasti dono ki shaadi kardi ...shaadi arranged thi aur 2no aik dosre ko na jaante thay ... shaadi ki raat jab woh apne room main baithien thien n was expecting k unnka dulha aakar unse pyar bhari baatein karega ... wahan uss insan ne kaha k "I am sorry main tumko apni wife nahi manta...ager tum iss ghar main raho gi tou main tumko kabhie tumhara haq na donga ... mei ne shaadi isslye ki kyunki meri maa ne mere pairon main apna duppata phainka tha k main tum se shaadi kar lon zabardasti ... main already married hon I love my Love n we have a kid also ... tumhari wajah se main apni asli wife ko declare nahi kar saka...tum chaho tou tum khullah le sakti ho" .... she was a beautiful young girl n educated also woh waleema k din jab apne ghar rehne aaien she told everything to her parents aur diavorce le li ... abb shaadi flop ho gayi par zindagi kiski kharab hui??? aur yahan tou hum ye bhi nahi keh sakte k taali aik haath se nahi bajti ju mostly log kehte hain jab koi shaadi flop hoti hai ... 2nd issi category ko le kar ajj k zamane main bhi humare janane walo main diavorce hua hai ... just k shaadi zabardasti ki gayi thi.

*Aurat ka zubaan chalana ... ajj kal parents apni aulad ko hadh se zyada confidence de rahe hain ...specially girls ko k express urself ... jahan aik tarf yeh baat sahi hai wahan iska misuse bhi hota hai ... jab aik larki ki zabaan gaz bhar khul jaye tou woh hameesha chalti hai ... jab woh apne hubby k ghar jati hai tou bhi band nahi kar pati ... abb parents kabhie hum par ehsan nahi jatate ... par husband ju har baat pori karega woh yeh chaheye ga bhi k uski haar baat pori hou ... aur usski superiority maani jaye ... ager larki kahe k nahi g 2no barabar hain rishte main ... tou nahi husband ka wyf main interest khatam hoga aur woh kahin aur attract hoga jahan k usko sakoon milley ... hamesha aurt ko compromise karna parta hai ju ye nahi samajhte unka ghar toot jata hai

*Apne app ko dekhna chor dena ... buht se cases main mein ne dekha hai k kya aurat aur kya mard 2no apne app ko shaadi k baad chor dete hain means fitness ki sense main ... shaadi se pehlay har koi dietry concsious hota hai par shaadi k baad jab app jante ho k there is a very special being for u ... uss k samne gande mande rehna ... bhaday ho jana ... thats not ryt ... bachey apni tarf ... ghar k kaam apni tarf ... par apni fitness ... beauty ko nahi bholna chaheye ... aur well dress ho kar rehna chaheye cuz specially husband wants k jab woh bahar se specially office k seniors se dant khaa k ghar aaein tou na sirf unko ghar saaf mille bal key biwi aur bache bhi saaf suthre hon na k gand macha ho ghar main ... its simple ager 2no main se aik beauty ka shouqeen hoga tou its compulsory k app khud par buhat ziada tawaja do.....koi kam educated bhi hoga na insaan tou usko safai zaroor pasand hogi

*Friendships with opposite gender ... yeh ajjkal buht common hai ... jab aik insaan se shaadi ho gayi tou woh apka sab kuch hai ... na mard na sirf aurat balke 2no hi buhat zyada pocessive hote hain apne pyar ko le kar aur specially shaadi k baad ...k ju mera hai woh bus mera hai ... koi bhi hadh se zyada BROAD MINDED nahi ho sakta cuz its our society ... app k husband ko kabhie app ka app k friend se hans hans k batein karna issues discuss karna pasand na hoga ... aur na hi apki wife ko ... koi upar se bahana bana de par dil main baat zaroor ayegi aur 1 baar ager shak ho jaye kisi k character par tou woh ahista ahista humara yakeen bun jata hai...after marriage koi dost itna close na ho app k opposite gender ka cuz iss baat par rishte buhat zyada toot te dekhe hain mei nay ... aur kuch ko adat hoti hai har aik ko bhai bana lene ki [E9.gif] bhai sirf humare sagay hi hote hain aur koi bhai nahi hota smile.gif


*Societal Differences ... remember m not talking abt Caste Differences ... societal differences tab aate hain jab aik well off family ki chahey woh larka ho ya larki apne se low society main shaadi ho jaye ... our society is divided into 9 main categories ... yep ju k buht se log nahi jaantey
1-upper-Upper class
2-Upper-Midle class
3-Uper-Lower class
4-upper-Midle class
5-Midle-Midle class
6-Lower-middle class
7-uper -lower class
8- midle-lower class
9- Lower-Lower class
all these categories have different characteristics ... so in deed we have different people .... sumtyms jab class clash hota hai tou woh bhi ajkal rishte k flop honay ki bari wajah hai

*Age Differences ... buhat se log kehte hain k Age Differences matter nahi karte par I think k matter karte hain ... humari aik janane wali aunty hain unke husband unn se 15 years baray hain shaadi ko 20 saal ho gaye hain par still she says k nahi jesa main chahti thi woh wese nahi hain aur Age difference shaadi main nahi hona chaheye still she says mera dil nahi manta hai unn k saath

*Chidren ka masla ... ajkal buht se aaise couples main sepration ho rahi hai jinn k babies nahi hain ... aur ajkal ye buhat aam hota ja raha hai ... aurat ko buhat zyada qasoor var theraya jata hai iss mamle main aur uss ko sab log chaheye woh uski family k bhi na hon iss baat k tanay dete hain ... diff horrible ways azmaye jaate hain par koi mard ko kuch nahi kehta ... jab aaise baatein hotien hain tou aaise case main tou islam bhi aik aurat ko khullah lene ki ijazat deta hai


-Trust...Respect ... Compromise ... are the base of Marriage ... hai tou inn sab points ka bus aik yehi matlab par baat sirf innhi par khatm nahi ho jati .... abhi kuch aur points bhi hain ... ju k soon share karna chahongi smile.gif

Airy rose.gif Princess

classic
QUOTE(Airy_Princess @ Oct 3 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]3071835[/snapback]
My Favourite topic ... run.gif

well pehli baat tou yeh wot I think k love/arrange marriage ka tou concept hi khatam ho gya hai mostly ju bhi hoti hai abb tou woh lub marriage hi hoti hai ... I am saying all this because pehlay ye concept tha k g arranged marriage ho rahi hai larka larki aik dosre ko jante nahi ajnabi hain ajj se almost 10 saal pehle aur abb baat paki hui nahi k batein start ... abb issi stage par log aik dosre ko hubby n wife tasavur kar baith te hain ... mostly tou ghoomne phirne bhi jaate hain aur even aft eng hi they would like to call themselves ..."MR" and "Mrs" aur maa baap ko b koi aaitraaz nahi hona so kya aaisi arranged marriage ko hum arranged hi kahien ge bus ... kuch situations main ajjkal issi stage par stamp lag jati hai breakups ki k bus aik dosre se mile understanding na hui aur baat khatam aaisa love eng main bhi ho raha hai so all in all ajkal ki jaany waali "Marriage" ..."Marriage" kehlati hai smile.gif

abb aatey hain Marriages toot ti kyun hain aur woh bhi ajkal arranged ones chalo both ko hi kar lete hain so simple why people give diavorce to eachother smile.gif iss ka ans sirf yeh nahi hai k bus jee aik dosre ki respect nahi karte compromise nahi karte nah ... its not only* like that ...

*sab se pehle tou jab Fiancee+Lover transform hota hai Husband main ... one has to forget k abb wo app k paalay paalay nakhre uthaye ga cuz aft marriage log aik dosre ko *Granted* lete hain yehi hoti hai pehli ghalti jab app aik dosre ki impr aik dosre ko samajhna hi chorr dou ...

*phir ajjkal I must say kay koi ginti chunti k log hi aaise hon ge jinko shaadi se pehly pyar na hua hoga poster_oops.gif jisko dekho uska affair hai ya tha ... abb jab baat yeh ho tou sab se bara factor ju yahan aata hai woh hota hai *Comparison* yeh kaam sirf mard hi nahi karta bal key aurat bhi karti hai ... k mera life partner wesa nahi jesa k mera *first love or Love* tha aur jab comparison start hota hai tou woh bhi rishte k weak honay ka aik step hota hai...iski misaal main aik true lyf experience se dongi k yeh baat ajj k zamane ki hi nahi buht pehlay ki bhi hai meri best friend ki mama unnki pehli shaadi issi baat par tooti thi ... Maa baap ne zabardasti dono ki shaadi kardi ...shaadi arranged thi aur 2no aik dosre ko na jaante thay ... shaadi ki raat jab woh apne room main baithien thien n was expecting k unnka dulha aakar unse pyar bhari baatein karega ... wahan uss insan ne kaha k "I am sorry main tumko apni wife nahi manta...ager tum iss ghar main raho gi tou main tumko kabhie tumhara haq na donga ... mei ne shaadi isslye ki kyunki meri maa ne mere pairon main apna duppata phainka tha k main tum se shaadi kar lon zabardasti ... main already married hon I love my Love n we have a kid also ... tumhari wajah se main apni asli wife ko declare nahi kar saka...tum chaho tou tum khullah le sakti ho" .... she was a beautiful young girl n educated also woh waleema k din jab apne ghar rehne aaien she told everything to her parents aur diavorce le li ... abb shaadi flop ho gayi par zindagi kiski kharab hui??? aur yahan tou hum ye bhi nahi keh sakte k taali aik haath se nahi bajti ju mostly log kehte hain jab koi shaadi flop hoti hai ... 2nd issi category ko le kar ajj k zamane main bhi humare janane walo main diavorce hua hai ... just k shaadi zabardasti ki gayi thi.

*Aurat ka zubaan chalana ... ajj kal parents apni aulad ko hadh se zyada confidence de rahe hain ...specially girls ko k express urself ... jahan aik tarf yeh baat sahi hai wahan iska misuse bhi hota hai ... jab aik larki ki zabaan gaz bhar khul jaye tou woh hameesha chalti hai ... jab woh apne hubby k ghar jati hai tou bhi band nahi kar pati ... abb parents kabhie hum par ehsan nahi jatate ... par husband ju har baat pori karega woh yeh chaheye ga bhi k uski haar baat pori hou ... aur usski superiority maani jaye ... ager larki kahe k nahi g 2no barabar hain rishte main ... tou nahi husband ka wyf main interest khatam hoga aur woh kahin aur attract hoga jahan k usko sakoon milley ... hamesha aurt ko compromise karna parta hai ju ye nahi samajhte unka ghar toot jata hai

*Apne app ko dekhna chor dena ... buht se cases main mein ne dekha hai k kya aurat aur kya mard 2no apne app ko shaadi k baad chor dete hain means fitness ki sense main ... shaadi se pehlay har koi dietry concsious hota hai par shaadi k baad jab app jante ho k there is a very special being for u ... uss k samne gande mande rehna ... bhaday ho jana ... thats not ryt ... bachey apni tarf ... ghar k kaam apni tarf ... par apni fitness ... beauty ko nahi bholna chaheye ... aur well dress ho kar rehna chaheye cuz specially husband wants k jab woh bahar se specially office k seniors se dant khaa k ghar aaein tou na sirf unko ghar saaf mille bal key biwi aur bache bhi saaf suthre hon na k gand macha ho ghar main ... its simple ager 2no main se aik beauty ka shouqeen hoga tou its compulsory k app khud par buhat ziada tawaja do.....koi kam educated bhi hoga na insaan tou usko safai zaroor pasand hogi

*Friendships with opposite gender ... yeh ajjkal buht common hai ... jab aik insaan se shaadi ho gayi tou woh apka sab kuch hai ... na mard na sirf aurat balke 2no hi buhat zyada pocessive hote hain apne pyar ko le kar aur specially shaadi k baad ...k ju mera hai woh bus mera hai ... koi bhi hadh se zyada BROAD MINDED nahi ho sakta cuz its our society ... app k husband ko kabhie app ka app k friend se hans hans k batein karna issues discuss karna pasand na hoga ... aur na hi apki wife ko ... koi upar se bahana bana de par dil main baat zaroor ayegi aur 1 baar ager shak ho jaye kisi k character par tou woh ahista ahista humara yakeen bun jata hai...after marriage koi dost itna close na ho app k opposite gender ka cuz iss baat par rishte buhat zyada toot te dekhe hain mei nay ... aur kuch ko adat hoti hai har aik ko bhai bana lene ki [E9.gif] bhai sirf humare sagay hi hote hain aur koi bhai nahi hota smile.gif
*Societal Differences ... remember m not talking abt Caste Differences ... societal differences tab aate hain jab aik well off family ki chahey woh larka ho ya larki apne se low society main shaadi ho jaye ... our society is divided into 9 main categories ... yep ju k buht se log nahi jaantey
1-upper-Upper class
2-Upper-Midle class
3-Uper-Lower class
4-upper-Midle class
5-Midle-Midle class
6-Lower-middle class
7-uper -lower class
8- midle-lower class
9- Lower-Lower class
all these categories have different characteristics ... so in deed we have different people .... sumtyms jab class clash hota hai tou woh bhi ajkal rishte k flop honay ki bari wajah hai

*Age Differences ... buhat se log kehte hain k Age Differences matter nahi karte par I think k matter karte hain ... humari aik janane wali aunty hain unke husband unn se 15 years baray hain shaadi ko 20 saal ho gaye hain par still she says k nahi jesa main chahti thi woh wese nahi hain aur Age difference shaadi main nahi hona chaheye still she says mera dil nahi manta hai unn k saath

*Chidren ka masla ... ajkal buht se aaise couples main sepration ho rahi hai jinn k babies nahi hain ... aur ajkal ye buhat aam hota ja raha hai ... aurat ko buhat zyada qasoor var theraya jata hai iss mamle main aur uss ko sab log chaheye woh uski family k bhi na hon iss baat k tanay dete hain ... diff horrible ways azmaye jaate hain par koi mard ko kuch nahi kehta ... jab aaise baatein hotien hain tou aaise case main tou islam bhi aik aurat ko khullah lene ki ijazat deta hai
-Trust...Respect ... Compromise ... are the base of Marriage ... hai tou inn sab points ka bus aik yehi matlab par baat sirf innhi par khatm nahi ho jati .... abhi kuch aur points bhi hain ... ju k soon share karna chahongi smile.gif

Airy rose.gif Princess


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IrrAtionaL MethanE
QUOTE(sweet_angel @ Oct 3 2008, 06:30 AM) [snapback]3071364[/snapback]
salaam alaik

very nice topic o info alee ok.gif

or tumne khud he apne is sawaal ka itna acha answer de dia hai
bilkul . . . is tarah ki tumne arrange marriages k cases dekhey to miene aise kaii love marriages aise love marriages jisper larki or larka dono ne itni jidojehed ki ..
kher all i want to say k
shadi wo achi hai jis pe app ka dil or app k maa baap ki khushi or razamandi shamil ho . . .
or dosri baat . . ek dosre ki izzat karna .. is must to put ur married lyf in a proper way u hafto give nd take respect nd jahan izzat hogi wahan pyarbhi aega pyar aega to compromising bhi hogi . . . in maii way
dese 3 things r matters alot
maan baap ki khushi razamandi apki razamandi k sath..
izzat
compromise

yes .. parents ki razamundi bohat zyada important hai .. that's why mai hamesha kahta hou k agr love marriage mai parents k against jana paray to KABI WO SHADI na karo .. .. .. try karo k parents maan jaye else better hai k na karo.
IrrAtionaL MethanE
QUOTE(classic @ Oct 3 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]3071722[/snapback]
Compromises nai kerte aik dosre k liye.......thats the biggest reason i guess!

arrange mai compromise phir ho jata hai .. love k ander nahi hota .. caz love marriage mai ye ASSUME kiya jata hai k next person should AGREE to me (main q compromise karou wo karay ga .. since he/she love me) .. .. .. so love marriages k flop honay ki aik waja ye b hai
IrrAtionaL MethanE
QUOTE(tenha_saima @ Oct 3 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]3071827[/snapback]
Get a life ! bored2.gif

we will get life later .. :p .. .. pehlay is cheez pr comment **marooo** .. .. .. .. I think it's not that bore that it seems .. .. .. ..
IrrAtionaL MethanE
QUOTE(Airy_Princess @ Oct 3 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]3071835[/snapback]
My Favourite topic ... run.gif

well pehli baat tou yeh wot I think k love/arrange marriage ka tou concept hi khatam ho gya hai mostly ju bhi hoti hai abb tou woh lub marriage hi hoti hai ... I am saying all this because pehlay ye concept tha k g arranged marriage ho rahi hai larka larki aik dosre ko jante nahi ajnabi hain ajj se almost 10 saal pehle aur abb baat paki hui nahi k batein start ... abb issi stage par log aik dosre ko hubby n wife tasavur kar baith te hain ... mostly tou ghoomne phirne bhi jaate hain aur even aft eng hi they would like to call themselves ..."MR" and "Mrs" aur maa baap ko b koi aaitraaz nahi hona so kya aaisi arranged marriage ko hum arranged hi kahien ge bus ... kuch situations main ajjkal issi stage par stamp lag jati hai breakups ki k bus aik dosre se mile understanding na hui aur baat khatam aaisa love eng main bhi ho raha hai so all in all ajkal ki jaany waali "Marriage" ..."Marriage" kehlati hai smile.gif

abb aatey hain Marriages toot ti kyun hain aur woh bhi ajkal arranged ones chalo both ko hi kar lete hain so simple why people give diavorce to eachother smile.gif iss ka ans sirf yeh nahi hai k bus jee aik dosre ki respect nahi karte compromise nahi karte nah ... its not only* like that ...

*sab se pehle tou jab Fiancee+Lover transform hota hai Husband main ... one has to forget k abb wo app k paalay paalay nakhre uthaye ga cuz aft marriage log aik dosre ko *Granted* lete hain yehi hoti hai pehli ghalti jab app aik dosre ki impr aik dosre ko samajhna hi chorr dou ...

*phir ajjkal I must say kay koi ginti chunti k log hi aaise hon ge jinko shaadi se pehly pyar na hua hoga poster_oops.gif jisko dekho uska affair hai ya tha ... abb jab baat yeh ho tou sab se bara factor ju yahan aata hai woh hota hai *Comparison* yeh kaam sirf mard hi nahi karta bal key aurat bhi karti hai ... k mera life partner wesa nahi jesa k mera *first love or Love* tha aur jab comparison start hota hai tou woh bhi rishte k weak honay ka aik step hota hai...iski misaal main aik true lyf experience se dongi k yeh baat ajj k zamane ki hi nahi buht pehlay ki bhi hai meri best friend ki mama unnki pehli shaadi issi baat par tooti thi ... Maa baap ne zabardasti dono ki shaadi kardi ...shaadi arranged thi aur 2no aik dosre ko na jaante thay ... shaadi ki raat jab woh apne room main baithien thien n was expecting k unnka dulha aakar unse pyar bhari baatein karega ... wahan uss insan ne kaha k "I am sorry main tumko apni wife nahi manta...ager tum iss ghar main raho gi tou main tumko kabhie tumhara haq na donga ... mei ne shaadi isslye ki kyunki meri maa ne mere pairon main apna duppata phainka tha k main tum se shaadi kar lon zabardasti ... main already married hon I love my Love n we have a kid also ... tumhari wajah se main apni asli wife ko declare nahi kar saka...tum chaho tou tum khullah le sakti ho" .... she was a beautiful young girl n educated also woh waleema k din jab apne ghar rehne aaien she told everything to her parents aur diavorce le li ... abb shaadi flop ho gayi par zindagi kiski kharab hui??? aur yahan tou hum ye bhi nahi keh sakte k taali aik haath se nahi bajti ju mostly log kehte hain jab koi shaadi flop hoti hai ... 2nd issi category ko le kar ajj k zamane main bhi humare janane walo main diavorce hua hai ... just k shaadi zabardasti ki gayi thi.

*Aurat ka zubaan chalana ... ajj kal parents apni aulad ko hadh se zyada confidence de rahe hain ...specially girls ko k express urself ... jahan aik tarf yeh baat sahi hai wahan iska misuse bhi hota hai ... jab aik larki ki zabaan gaz bhar khul jaye tou woh hameesha chalti hai ... jab woh apne hubby k ghar jati hai tou bhi band nahi kar pati ... abb parents kabhie hum par ehsan nahi jatate ... par husband ju har baat pori karega woh yeh chaheye ga bhi k uski haar baat pori hou ... aur usski superiority maani jaye ... ager larki kahe k nahi g 2no barabar hain rishte main ... tou nahi husband ka wyf main interest khatam hoga aur woh kahin aur attract hoga jahan k usko sakoon milley ... hamesha aurt ko compromise karna parta hai ju ye nahi samajhte unka ghar toot jata hai

*Apne app ko dekhna chor dena ... buht se cases main mein ne dekha hai k kya aurat aur kya mard 2no apne app ko shaadi k baad chor dete hain means fitness ki sense main ... shaadi se pehlay har koi dietry concsious hota hai par shaadi k baad jab app jante ho k there is a very special being for u ... uss k samne gande mande rehna ... bhaday ho jana ... thats not ryt ... bachey apni tarf ... ghar k kaam apni tarf ... par apni fitness ... beauty ko nahi bholna chaheye ... aur well dress ho kar rehna chaheye cuz specially husband wants k jab woh bahar se specially office k seniors se dant khaa k ghar aaein tou na sirf unko ghar saaf mille bal key biwi aur bache bhi saaf suthre hon na k gand macha ho ghar main ... its simple ager 2no main se aik beauty ka shouqeen hoga tou its compulsory k app khud par buhat ziada tawaja do.....koi kam educated bhi hoga na insaan tou usko safai zaroor pasand hogi

*Friendships with opposite gender ... yeh ajjkal buht common hai ... jab aik insaan se shaadi ho gayi tou woh apka sab kuch hai ... na mard na sirf aurat balke 2no hi buhat zyada pocessive hote hain apne pyar ko le kar aur specially shaadi k baad ...k ju mera hai woh bus mera hai ... koi bhi hadh se zyada BROAD MINDED nahi ho sakta cuz its our society ... app k husband ko kabhie app ka app k friend se hans hans k batein karna issues discuss karna pasand na hoga ... aur na hi apki wife ko ... koi upar se bahana bana de par dil main baat zaroor ayegi aur 1 baar ager shak ho jaye kisi k character par tou woh ahista ahista humara yakeen bun jata hai...after marriage koi dost itna close na ho app k opposite gender ka cuz iss baat par rishte buhat zyada toot te dekhe hain mei nay ... aur kuch ko adat hoti hai har aik ko bhai bana lene ki [E9.gif] bhai sirf humare sagay hi hote hain aur koi bhai nahi hota smile.gif
*Societal Differences ... remember m not talking abt Caste Differences ... societal differences tab aate hain jab aik well off family ki chahey woh larka ho ya larki apne se low society main shaadi ho jaye ... our society is divided into 9 main categories ... yep ju k buht se log nahi jaantey
1-upper-Upper class
2-Upper-Midle class
3-Uper-Lower class
4-upper-Midle class
5-Midle-Midle class
6-Lower-middle class
7-uper -lower class
8- midle-lower class
9- Lower-Lower class
all these categories have different characteristics ... so in deed we have different people .... sumtyms jab class clash hota hai tou woh bhi ajkal rishte k flop honay ki bari wajah hai

*Age Differences ... buhat se log kehte hain k Age Differences matter nahi karte par I think k matter karte hain ... humari aik janane wali aunty hain unke husband unn se 15 years baray hain shaadi ko 20 saal ho gaye hain par still she says k nahi jesa main chahti thi woh wese nahi hain aur Age difference shaadi main nahi hona chaheye still she says mera dil nahi manta hai unn k saath

*Chidren ka masla ... ajkal buht se aaise couples main sepration ho rahi hai jinn k babies nahi hain ... aur ajkal ye buhat aam hota ja raha hai ... aurat ko buhat zyada qasoor var theraya jata hai iss mamle main aur uss ko sab log chaheye woh uski family k bhi na hon iss baat k tanay dete hain ... diff horrible ways azmaye jaate hain par koi mard ko kuch nahi kehta ... jab aaise baatein hotien hain tou aaise case main tou islam bhi aik aurat ko khullah lene ki ijazat deta hai
-Trust...Respect ... Compromise ... are the base of Marriage ... hai tou inn sab points ka bus aik yehi matlab par baat sirf innhi par khatm nahi ho jati .... abhi kuch aur points bhi hain ... ju k soon share karna chahongi smile.gif

Airy rose.gif Princess


tm nay jo sab kch likha hai us ko agr hum GENERAL terms pr xpress krain to un ki base wahi bnti hai jo mai byaan kr chuka houn .. .. .. like jaisay tm nay kaha k bohat lambi zubaan hoti hai .. .. .. to agr aik bnda next bnday ki **respect** kray to wo kabi b us zubaan ka istemal na kray .. .. .. .. so hr cheez ki base pr wahi cheezain hain .. ..
Airy_Princess
QUOTE(classic @ Oct 4 2008, 02:04 AM) [snapback]3071912[/snapback]
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Airy_Princess
QUOTE(IrrAtionaL MethanE @ Oct 4 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]3072080[/snapback]
tm nay jo sab kch likha hai us ko agr hum GENERAL terms pr xpress krain to un ki base wahi bnti hai jo mai byaan kr chuka houn .. .. .. like jaisay tm nay kaha k bohat lambi zubaan hoti hai .. .. .. to agr aik bnda next bnday ki **respect** kray to wo kabi b us zubaan ka istemal na kray .. .. .. .. so hr cheez ki base pr wahi cheezain hain .. ..

tou phir aur kya likhti yehi tou reasons hoti hain mei ne apne essay k neechy likha hai kuch woh ye tha k 3 main cheezien hi inn sab ki base hain 1-afsana.gif
~Kit Kat~
Success or failure doesn’t have to do much with the fact whether a marriage is arranged or not. Ego is one factor, that i know in many cases, could destroy any form of relationship, be it husband/wife or friends. If you have no flexibility or no tendency to change, you cant carry your responsibilities towards any relation.
seemel
QUOTE(Loner Tech @ Oct 3 2008, 02:44 AM) [snapback]3071369[/snapback]
Don't get married unless u really want to E9.gif


100% Agreed... ...and also that dont get marry to a person until u dont feel that this is the person i cant live without.. and... there is no 2nd thought.................
Thirsty Sea
Salam 0 Alikum

Floop marriges can have more than one reason, it strongly depends on couples and the envioronment that they live in. I came to know about couples who got seprate because the husband couldn not afford his wife or his family expenses. I know another couple where wife had to leave her husband because she was a religios girl and his husband wanted to be a singer( he is a singer now).


Not 1, but there can be 100s of reasons f divorce. But let me admit that most of the time miss understanding, selfishness and carelessness are the main reasons that convenses one to take sucha big steps and unfortunately it has become very common in our society :(


so these are my views :D


Peaceeee
Thirsty Sea
QUOTE(sweet_angel @ Oct 3 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]3071364[/snapback]
salaam alaik

very nice topic o info alee ok.gif

or tumne khud he apne is sawaal ka itna acha answer de dia hai
bilkul . . . is tarah ki tumne arrange marriages k cases dekhey to miene aise kaii love marriages aise love marriages jisper larki or larka dono ne itni jidojehed ki ..
kher all i want to say k
shadi wo achi hai jis pe app ka dil or app k maa baap ki khushi or razamandi shamil ho . . .
or dosri baat . . ek dosre ki izzat karna .. is must to put ur married lyf in a proper way u hafto give nd take respect nd jahan izzat hogi wahan pyarbhi aega pyar aega to compromising bhi hogi . . . in maii way
dese 3 things r matters alot
maan baap ki khushi razamandi apki razamandi k sath..
izzat
compromise

0-22_yikes.gif mujhay shahid afridi kion nazar nahi araha pit.gif
humakiran
QUOTE(IrrAtionaL MethanE @ Oct 2 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]3071308[/snapback]
aoa .. .. ..

as the title suggest - I am gona put down the things i have analyzed about marriages n the reason of their failure and want your feedback whether i am wrong or right.

I never blamed on any sort of marriage (love/arrange) that this kind a marriage is gona flop (like most of the people who have categorized that arrange marriages are flop or love marriages are flop).

The arguments I have to prove a love marriage a fiasco are quite strong compared to arrange but over all i believe that %age of love/arrange marraige of being flopped is like 40/60 and in some cases it's 50/50 .. .. .. but recently i have witnessed few events which made me realize that supporting on the fact that arrange marriages are successful isn't that strong that much i believed.

I have witnessed 3 recent arrange marriages and all of these 3 have been ENDED! .. in one case husband divorced, in second case husband used to beat his wife and parents have now broght their daughter back and in 3rd case, the husband did a second marriage and after 3 years he is telling that he will only give monthly EXPENSE and will never come to the house (he is happy with new wife).

so wat is the reason? I don't know what could be the reason in above cases, I can't tell what could be the reason in any other marriage for its failure .. the only thing that i can think is some points which may be the reason for a successful marriage irrespective of the fact whether its arrange/love.

I think being supportive, believe, co-operative and having respect for each other are few major thing that are the baseline for a successful marriage. It does not need to be necessary that these are essential in love marriage or arrange marriage. Relationship having these baseline are totally dependent on the person sharing the relation, their maturity and their mentality.

so raising a finger on a marriage and saying that it's caz it was a love marraige/arrange marriage is totally rubbish. All i think it's 'caz the PEOPLE who didn't valued their relation to make it successful.

so what you people say - the reason for failure is 'caz they are married (love/arrange) or the reasons are in the PEOPLE who get married?


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JeeNa'
mery khyal say marriages kay flop honay kay sab say bara reason...difference of mental level, thoughts and approaches hain..aur jahan mental approaches hi same na hon guzarah nahi hota...aurat main bardast ka level zada hay to phir bhi bardast kar jati hay in sab ko...par mard rah i farar iktayar kar leta hay..
~Zuni~
QUOTE(~Kit Kat~ @ Oct 5 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]3072362[/snapback]
Success or failure doesn’t have to do much with the fact whether a marriage is arranged or not. Ego is one factor, that i know in many cases, could destroy any form of relationship, be it husband/wife or friends. If you have no flexibility or no tendency to change, you cant carry your responsibilities towards any relation.



Very true ! smile.gif

~Zuni~
QUOTE(JeeNa @ Oct 9 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]3075285[/snapback]
mery khyal say marriages kay flop honay kay sab say bara reason...difference of mental level, thoughts and approaches hain..aur jahan mental approaches hi same na hon guzarah nahi hota...aurat main bardast ka level zada hay to phir bhi bardast kar jati hay in sab ko...par mard rah i farar iktayar kar leta hay..



Lack of tolerance is one major factor from both sides.

Aaj kal k daur mein koi bhi jawab diye bina nahin reh pata ... be it mard or aurat smile.gif

JeeNa'
QUOTE(~Zuni~ @ Oct 8 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]3075291[/snapback]
Lack of tolerance is one major factor from both sides.

Aaj kal k daur mein koi bhi jawab diye bina nahin reh pata ... be it mard or aurat smile.gif


bilkul theek kaha ap nay....lakin is condition par bhi tab hi poohnchty hain jab dono 1 dosry ki approaches samjh nahi pa rahy hoty....asal base hi yehi hote hay...baqi sab branches hoteein hain is ki....jab baat hi nahi samjh aa rahi to laryeein gain...misbahave kareein gain...an ayeein gee...of course tolarence matter karti hay lekin agar bat samjh a jae mera nhai khyal tolerence ary ati hay...tolerance ka leverl tab hi ata hay jab bat samjh na ayee...bat samjh any kay liyee mental approches same hona bohat zaroori hote hay...i think
~Zuni~
QUOTE(JeeNa @ Oct 9 2008, 02:33 AM) [snapback]3075323[/snapback]
bilkul theek kaha ap nay....lakin is condition par bhi tab hi poohnchty hain jab dono 1 dosry ki approaches samjh nahi pa rahy hoty....asal base hi yehi hote hay...baqi sab branches hoteein hain is ki....jab baat hi nahi samjh aa rahi to laryeein gain...misbahave kareein gain...an ayeein gee...of course tolarence matter karti hay lekin agar bat samjh a jae mera nhai khyal tolerence ary ati hay...tolerance ka leverl tab hi ata hay jab bat samjh na ayee...bat samjh any kay liyee mental approches same hona bohat zaroori hote hay...i think



Be shak .. aap theek keh rahi hain ... magar approach ka talluq bhi tou tolerance se hua na smile.gif

Misal k tore pe aik mard ya aurat mein bardasht ka maddah ho hi nahin siray se tou us ki approach kia hogi ? Definitely, he or she will not listen to others point of view with patience instead they will keep on asserting themselves. This kind of behaviour provokes the other party as well and the result is obvious.


No body knows about it better than me smile.gif
VrSoLdIeRs
no one in this world is cut-out for each n other... thora comrpomise karna parta hai... ego ko freezer main rakhna parta hai :D sari umer aik hi banday ko bardasht karna itna easy to nahi hota... but people who can tackle this all end up having a beautiful life... u shud b playful, enjoy karo har part of marriage ko, keepin in mind keh doosra banda bhi insaan hai... uski limits hain n has sum issues over something... u have to pay respect as well
Sidekick
reason of flop marriage is jokes ki kammi..................lol
meri aik dost ko agar us ka husband rose aik joke na sunaye to wo naraz ho jati hai.

wo kheti hai

zindagi zindadila ka naam hai
murda e dil to khaak jia kertay hai.


Forever Green
Well i would say "Love"

Dat is da first reason, u know wat....Love cud makes u bear every single negetive act.... Jab kissi se Mohabbat ki jati hay to uski har Negetive baat bardahst kar li jati hay ....

If u dont love sum one den who cares...idher zara si baat huwi aur buss apna apna rasta....

Love hi mein woh sare reasons hain jo ek marriage ko Successful bana sakte hain ...jis mein Bardasht, understanding, Care aur Respect aajati hay...

Baaz relations ya couples mein love nai hota...lekin un mein se ek partner mein bardasht doosre se zyada hoti hay aur woh rishta bhi latak latak ke chal raha hota hay .... lekin us mein na to ehtram baqi reh jata hay aur na hi Charm.....


Theek bola ke nai
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IrrAtionaL MethanE
will get back to HC some later time .. stucked in this JOB .. breakface1.gif .
~Zuni~
QUOTE(Forever Green @ Oct 9 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]3076251[/snapback]
Well i would say "Love"

Dat is da first reason, u know wat....Love cud makes u bear every single negetive act.... Jab kissi se Mohabbat ki jati hay to uski har Negetive baat bardahst kar li jati hay ....

If u dont love sum one den who cares...idher zara si baat huwi aur buss apna apna rasta....

Love hi mein woh sare reasons hain jo ek marriage ko Successful bana sakte hain ...jis mein Bardasht, understanding, Care aur Respect aajati hay...

Baaz relations ya couples mein love nai hota...lekin un mein se ek partner mein bardasht doosre se zyada hoti hay aur woh rishta bhi latak latak ke chal raha hota hay .... lekin us mein na to ehtram baqi reh jata hay aur na hi Charm.....
Theek bola ke nai
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Dandday k zore pe kehalwana hai kia ? 13.gif
Forever Green
QUOTE(~Zuni~ @ Oct 9 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]3076265[/snapback]
Dandday k zore pe kehalwana hai kia ? 13.gif




Wohi too .... Woh Kya hay naa ke >>>Laaton ke Bhoot Baton se Nai Mante imslow.gif
JeeNa'
QUOTE(~Zuni~ @ Oct 8 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]3075357[/snapback]
Be shak .. aap theek keh rahi hain ... magar approach ka talluq bhi tou tolerance se hua na smile.gif

Misal k tore pe aik mard ya aurat mein bardasht ka maddah ho hi nahin siray se tou us ki approach kia hogi ? Definitely, he or she will not listen to others point of view with patience instead they will keep on asserting themselves. This kind of behaviour provokes the other party as well and the result is obvious.


No body knows about it better than me smile.gif



hmmmmmm..... i think tolerance ka taluq approach say hota hay....jasy ab koi gr. 1 main hay aur dosra gr 5 main.....gr. 1 wala gr 5 ko samjh hi nahi sakta....lakin beside this....human nature hay koi asy asani say manta nahi keh wo ghalat hay.....to gr 1 wala zid kary ga keh us ko pata hay..halkeh us ko nahi pata....aur yahan par hi tolerance ati hay...mery khyal say gr 5 waly main zada tolerance hay kion keh wo janta hay keh gr 1 wala kia nahi janta..aur jo gr 1 main hay us ki tolarnce kam hay kion keh us ko khud nahi pata keh actually us ko kia pata...aur wo gr 5 jitna bannay ki koshish karta hay....aur isi taqrar main wo itna zada react karta hay keh gr 5 ki waly ki tolerance level say barh jata hay...to larye ho jati hay...aur agar dono gr 5 kay hon to bat ko samjhna asan hota hay gr 4 or 5 bhi chalta hay...par zada differnce satya nass karta hay hamesha....mery khayal say abhi bhi tolerance mental approaches par depand karta hay...lakin ap ka apna experience hay to bhai ap thek ho gey smile.gif
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