IrrAtionaL MethanE
Oct 3 2008, 01:41 AM
aoa .. .. ..
as the title suggest - I am gona put down the things i have analyzed about marriages n the reason of their failure and want your feedback whether i am wrong or right.
I never blamed on any sort of marriage (love/arrange) that this kind a marriage is gona flop (like most of the people who have categorized that arrange marriages are flop or love marriages are flop).
The arguments I have to prove a love marriage a fiasco are quite strong compared to arrange but over all i believe that %age of love/arrange marraige of being flopped is like 40/60 and in some cases it's 50/50 .. .. .. but recently i have witnessed few events which made me realize that supporting on the fact that arrange marriages are successful isn't that strong that much i believed.
I have witnessed 3 recent arrange marriages and all of these 3 have been ENDED! .. in one case husband divorced, in second case husband used to beat his wife and parents have now broght their daughter back and in 3rd case, the husband did a second marriage and after 3 years he is telling that he will only give monthly EXPENSE and will never come to the house (he is happy with new wife).
so wat is the reason? I don't know what could be the reason in above cases, I can't tell what could be the reason in any other marriage for its failure .. the only thing that i can think is some points which may be the reason for a successful marriage irrespective of the fact whether its arrange/love.
I think being supportive, believe, co-operative and having respect for each other are few major thing that are the baseline for a successful marriage. It does not need to be necessary that these are essential in love marriage or arrange marriage. Relationship having these baseline are totally dependent on the person sharing the relation, their maturity and their mentality.
so raising a finger on a marriage and saying that it's caz it was a love marraige/arrange marriage is totally rubbish. All i think it's 'caz the PEOPLE who didn't valued their relation to make it successful.
so what you people say - the reason for failure is 'caz they are married (love/arrange) or the reasons are in the PEOPLE who get married?
sweet_angel
Oct 3 2008, 06:30 AM
salaam alaik
very nice topic o info alee 
or tumne khud he apne is sawaal ka itna acha answer de dia hai
bilkul . . . is tarah ki tumne arrange marriages k cases dekhey to miene aise kaii love marriages aise love marriages jisper larki or larka dono ne itni jidojehed ki ..
kher all i want to say k
shadi wo achi hai jis pe app ka dil or app k maa baap ki khushi or razamandi shamil ho . . .
or dosri baat . . ek dosre ki izzat karna .. is must to put ur married lyf in a proper way u hafto give nd take respect nd jahan izzat hogi wahan pyarbhi aega pyar aega to compromising bhi hogi . . . in maii way
dese 3 things r matters alot
maan baap ki khushi razamandi apki razamandi k sath..
izzat
compromise
Gn0m3r.X
Oct 3 2008, 07:44 AM
Don't get married unless u really want to
Perplexed Soul
Oct 3 2008, 02:03 PM
QUOTE(IrrAtionaL MethanE @ Oct 3 2008, 01:41 AM) [snapback]3071308[/snapback]
aoa .. .. ..
as the title suggest - I am gona put down the things i have analyzed about marriages n the reason of their failure and want your feedback whether i am wrong or right.
I never blamed on any sort of marriage (love/arrange) that this kind a marriage is gona flop (like most of the people who have categorized that arrange marriages are flop or love marriages are flop).
The arguments I have to prove a love marriage a fiasco are quite strong compared to arrange but over all i believe that %age of love/arrange marraige of being flopped is like 40/60 and in some cases it's 50/50 .. .. .. but recently i have witnessed few events which made me realize that supporting on the fact that arrange marriages are successful isn't that strong that much i believed.
I have witnessed 3 recent arrange marriages and all of these 3 have been ENDED! .. in one case husband divorced, in second case husband used to beat his wife and parents have now broght their daughter back and in 3rd case, the husband did a second marriage and after 3 years he is telling that he will only give monthly EXPENSE and will never come to the house (he is happy with new wife).
so wat is the reason? I don't know what could be the reason in above cases, I can't tell what could be the reason in any other marriage for its failure .. the only thing that i can think is some points which may be the reason for a successful marriage irrespective of the fact whether its arrange/love.
I think being supportive, believe, co-operative and having respect for each other are few major thing that are the baseline for a successful marriage. It does not need to be necessary that these are essential in love marriage or arrange marriage. Relationship having these baseline are totally dependent on the person sharing the relation, their maturity and their mentality.
so raising a finger on a marriage and saying that it's caz it was a love marraige/arrange marriage is totally rubbish. All i think it's 'caz the PEOPLE who didn't valued their relation to make it successful.
so what you people say - the reason for failure is 'caz they are married (love/arrange) or the reasons are in the PEOPLE who get married?
tumne khud hi jawab dedia
classic
Oct 3 2008, 06:25 PM
Compromises nai kerte aik dosre k liye.......thats the biggest reason i guess!
zealot
Oct 3 2008, 07:47 PM
pta nhi
tenha_saima
Oct 3 2008, 11:05 PM
Get a life !
classic
Oct 4 2008, 02:04 AM
IrrAtionaL MethanE
Oct 4 2008, 01:52 PM
QUOTE(sweet_angel @ Oct 3 2008, 06:30 AM) [snapback]3071364[/snapback]
salaam alaik
very nice topic o info alee 
or tumne khud he apne is sawaal ka itna acha answer de dia hai
bilkul . . . is tarah ki tumne arrange marriages k cases dekhey to miene aise kaii love marriages aise love marriages jisper larki or larka dono ne itni jidojehed ki ..
kher all i want to say k
shadi wo achi hai jis pe app ka dil or app k maa baap ki khushi or razamandi shamil ho . . .
or dosri baat . . ek dosre ki izzat karna .. is must to put ur married lyf in a proper way u hafto give nd take respect nd jahan izzat hogi wahan pyarbhi aega pyar aega to compromising bhi hogi . . . in maii way
dese 3 things r matters alot
maan baap ki khushi razamandi apki razamandi k sath..
izzat
compromise yes .. parents ki razamundi bohat zyada important hai .. that's why mai hamesha kahta hou k agr love marriage mai parents k against jana paray to KABI WO SHADI na karo .. .. .. try karo k parents maan jaye else better hai k na karo.
IrrAtionaL MethanE
Oct 4 2008, 01:53 PM
QUOTE(classic @ Oct 3 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]3071722[/snapback]
Compromises nai kerte aik dosre k liye.......thats the biggest reason i guess!
arrange mai compromise phir ho jata hai .. love k ander nahi hota .. caz love marriage mai ye ASSUME kiya jata hai k next person should AGREE to me (main q compromise karou wo karay ga .. since he/she love me) .. .. .. so love marriages k flop honay ki aik waja ye b hai
IrrAtionaL MethanE
Oct 4 2008, 01:55 PM
QUOTE(tenha_saima @ Oct 3 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]3071827[/snapback]
Get a life !
we will get life later .. :p .. .. pehlay is cheez pr comment **marooo** .. .. .. .. I think it's not that bore that it seems .. .. .. ..
IrrAtionaL MethanE
Oct 4 2008, 02:10 PM
Airy_Princess
Oct 4 2008, 11:34 PM
QUOTE(classic @ Oct 4 2008, 02:04 AM) [snapback]3071912[/snapback]
inna wada reply
wailee thi na kal
Airy_Princess
Oct 4 2008, 11:38 PM
QUOTE(IrrAtionaL MethanE @ Oct 4 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]3072080[/snapback]
tm nay jo sab kch likha hai us ko agr hum GENERAL terms pr xpress krain to un ki base wahi bnti hai jo mai byaan kr chuka houn .. .. .. like jaisay tm nay kaha k bohat lambi zubaan hoti hai .. .. .. to agr aik bnda next bnday ki **respect** kray to wo kabi b us zubaan ka istemal na kray .. .. .. .. so hr cheez ki base pr wahi cheezain hain .. ..
tou phir aur kya likhti yehi tou reasons hoti hain mei ne apne essay k neechy likha hai kuch woh ye tha k 3 main cheezien hi inn sab ki base hain
~Kit Kat~
Oct 5 2008, 12:44 AM
Success or failure doesn’t have to do much with the fact whether a marriage is arranged or not. Ego is one factor, that i know in many cases, could destroy any form of relationship, be it husband/wife or friends. If you have no flexibility or no tendency to change, you cant carry your responsibilities towards any relation.
seemel
Oct 5 2008, 03:32 PM
QUOTE(Loner Tech @ Oct 3 2008, 02:44 AM) [snapback]3071369[/snapback]
Don't get married unless u really want to

100% Agreed... ...and also that dont get marry to a person until u dont feel that this is the person i cant live without.. and... there is no 2nd thought.................
Thirsty Sea
Oct 5 2008, 08:12 PM
Salam 0 Alikum
Floop marriges can have more than one reason, it strongly depends on couples and the envioronment that they live in. I came to know about couples who got seprate because the husband couldn not afford his wife or his family expenses. I know another couple where wife had to leave her husband because she was a religios girl and his husband wanted to be a singer( he is a singer now).
Not 1, but there can be 100s of reasons f divorce. But let me admit that most of the time miss understanding, selfishness and carelessness are the main reasons that convenses one to take sucha big steps and unfortunately it has become very common in our society :(
so these are my views :D
Peaceeee
Thirsty Sea
Oct 5 2008, 08:15 PM
QUOTE(sweet_angel @ Oct 3 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]3071364[/snapback]
salaam alaik
very nice topic o info alee 
or tumne khud he apne is sawaal ka itna acha answer de dia hai
bilkul . . . is tarah ki tumne arrange marriages k cases dekhey to miene aise kaii love marriages aise love marriages jisper larki or larka dono ne itni jidojehed ki ..
kher all i want to say k
shadi wo achi hai jis pe app ka dil or app k maa baap ki khushi or razamandi shamil ho . . .
or dosri baat . . ek dosre ki izzat karna .. is must to put ur married lyf in a proper way u hafto give nd take respect nd jahan izzat hogi wahan pyarbhi aega pyar aega to compromising bhi hogi . . . in maii way
dese 3 things r matters alot
maan baap ki khushi razamandi apki razamandi k sath..
izzat
compromise 
mujhay shahid afridi kion nazar nahi araha
humakiran
Oct 9 2008, 01:09 AM
QUOTE(IrrAtionaL MethanE @ Oct 2 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]3071308[/snapback]
aoa .. .. ..
as the title suggest - I am gona put down the things i have analyzed about marriages n the reason of their failure and want your feedback whether i am wrong or right.
I never blamed on any sort of marriage (love/arrange) that this kind a marriage is gona flop (like most of the people who have categorized that arrange marriages are flop or love marriages are flop).
The arguments I have to prove a love marriage a fiasco are quite strong compared to arrange but over all i believe that %age of love/arrange marraige of being flopped is like 40/60 and in some cases it's 50/50 .. .. .. but recently i have witnessed few events which made me realize that supporting on the fact that arrange marriages are successful isn't that strong that much i believed.
I have witnessed 3 recent arrange marriages and all of these 3 have been ENDED! .. in one case husband divorced, in second case husband used to beat his wife and parents have now broght their daughter back and in 3rd case, the husband did a second marriage and after 3 years he is telling that he will only give monthly EXPENSE and will never come to the house (he is happy with new wife).
so wat is the reason? I don't know what could be the reason in above cases, I can't tell what could be the reason in any other marriage for its failure .. the only thing that i can think is some points which may be the reason for a successful marriage irrespective of the fact whether its arrange/love.
I think being supportive, believe, co-operative and having respect for each other are few major thing that are the baseline for a successful marriage. It does not need to be necessary that these are essential in love marriage or arrange marriage. Relationship having these baseline are totally dependent on the person sharing the relation, their maturity and their mentality.
so raising a finger on a marriage and saying that it's caz it was a love marraige/arrange marriage is totally rubbish. All i think it's 'caz the PEOPLE who didn't valued their relation to make it successful.
so what you people say - the reason for failure is 'caz they are married (love/arrange) or the reasons are in the PEOPLE who get married?
sorry no experience
JeeNa'
Oct 9 2008, 01:21 AM
mery khyal say marriages kay flop honay kay sab say bara reason...difference of mental level, thoughts and approaches hain..aur jahan mental approaches hi same na hon guzarah nahi hota...aurat main bardast ka level zada hay to phir bhi bardast kar jati hay in sab ko...par mard rah i farar iktayar kar leta hay..
~Zuni~
Oct 9 2008, 01:28 AM
QUOTE(~Kit Kat~ @ Oct 5 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]3072362[/snapback]
Success or failure doesn’t have to do much with the fact whether a marriage is arranged or not. Ego is one factor, that i know in many cases, could destroy any form of relationship, be it husband/wife or friends. If you have no flexibility or no tendency to change, you cant carry your responsibilities towards any relation.
Very true !
~Zuni~
Oct 9 2008, 01:31 AM
QUOTE(JeeNa @ Oct 9 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]3075285[/snapback]
mery khyal say marriages kay flop honay kay sab say bara reason...difference of mental level, thoughts and approaches hain..aur jahan mental approaches hi same na hon guzarah nahi hota...aurat main bardast ka level zada hay to phir bhi bardast kar jati hay in sab ko...par mard rah i farar iktayar kar leta hay..
Lack of tolerance is one major factor from both sides. Aaj kal k daur mein koi bhi jawab diye bina nahin reh pata ... be it mard or aurat
JeeNa'
Oct 9 2008, 02:33 AM
QUOTE(~Zuni~ @ Oct 8 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]3075291[/snapback]
Lack of tolerance is one major factor from both sides. Aaj kal k daur mein koi bhi jawab diye bina nahin reh pata ... be it mard or aurat

bilkul theek kaha ap nay....lakin is condition par bhi tab hi poohnchty hain jab dono 1 dosry ki approaches samjh nahi pa rahy hoty....asal base hi yehi hote hay...baqi sab branches hoteein hain is ki....jab baat hi nahi samjh aa rahi to laryeein gain...misbahave kareein gain...an ayeein gee...of course tolarence matter karti hay lekin agar bat samjh a jae mera nhai khyal tolerence ary ati hay...tolerance ka leverl tab hi ata hay jab bat samjh na ayee...bat samjh any kay liyee mental approches same hona bohat zaroori hote hay...i think
~Zuni~
Oct 9 2008, 03:57 AM
QUOTE(JeeNa @ Oct 9 2008, 02:33 AM) [snapback]3075323[/snapback]
bilkul theek kaha ap nay....lakin is condition par bhi tab hi poohnchty hain jab dono 1 dosry ki approaches samjh nahi pa rahy hoty....asal base hi yehi hote hay...baqi sab branches hoteein hain is ki....jab baat hi nahi samjh aa rahi to laryeein gain...misbahave kareein gain...an ayeein gee...of course tolarence matter karti hay lekin agar bat samjh a jae mera nhai khyal tolerence ary ati hay...tolerance ka leverl tab hi ata hay jab bat samjh na ayee...bat samjh any kay liyee mental approches same hona bohat zaroori hote hay...i think
Be shak .. aap theek keh rahi hain ... magar approach ka talluq bhi tou tolerance se hua na
Misal k tore pe aik mard ya aurat mein bardasht ka maddah ho hi nahin siray se tou us ki approach kia hogi ? Definitely, he or she will not listen to others point of view with patience instead they will keep on asserting themselves. This kind of behaviour provokes the other party as well and the result is obvious. No body knows about it better than me
VrSoLdIeRs
Oct 9 2008, 04:28 AM
no one in this world is cut-out for each n other... thora comrpomise karna parta hai... ego ko freezer main rakhna parta hai :D sari umer aik hi banday ko bardasht karna itna easy to nahi hota... but people who can tackle this all end up having a beautiful life... u shud b playful, enjoy karo har part of marriage ko, keepin in mind keh doosra banda bhi insaan hai... uski limits hain n has sum issues over something... u have to pay respect as well
Sidekick
Oct 9 2008, 08:42 AM
reason of flop marriage is jokes ki kammi..................lol
meri aik dost ko agar us ka husband rose aik joke na sunaye to wo naraz ho jati hai.
wo kheti hai
zindagi zindadila ka naam hai
murda e dil to khaak jia kertay hai.
Forever Green
Oct 9 2008, 07:30 PM
Well i would say "Love"
Dat is da first reason, u know wat....Love cud makes u bear every single negetive act.... Jab kissi se Mohabbat ki jati hay to uski har Negetive baat bardahst kar li jati hay ....
If u dont love sum one den who cares...idher zara si baat huwi aur buss apna apna rasta....
Love hi mein woh sare reasons hain jo ek marriage ko Successful bana sakte hain ...jis mein Bardasht, understanding, Care aur Respect aajati hay...
Baaz relations ya couples mein love nai hota...lekin un mein se ek partner mein bardasht doosre se zyada hoti hay aur woh rishta bhi latak latak ke chal raha hota hay .... lekin us mein na to ehtram baqi reh jata hay aur na hi Charm.....
Theek bola ke nai
IrrAtionaL MethanE
Oct 9 2008, 07:37 PM
will get back to HC some later time .. stucked in this JOB ..
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~Zuni~
Oct 9 2008, 07:49 PM
QUOTE(Forever Green @ Oct 9 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]3076251[/snapback]
Well i would say "Love"
Dat is da first reason, u know wat....Love cud makes u bear every single negetive act.... Jab kissi se Mohabbat ki jati hay to uski har Negetive baat bardahst kar li jati hay ....
If u dont love sum one den who cares...idher zara si baat huwi aur buss apna apna rasta....
Love hi mein woh sare reasons hain jo ek marriage ko Successful bana sakte hain ...jis mein Bardasht, understanding, Care aur Respect aajati hay...
Baaz relations ya couples mein love nai hota...lekin un mein se ek partner mein bardasht doosre se zyada hoti hay aur woh rishta bhi latak latak ke chal raha hota hay .... lekin us mein na to ehtram baqi reh jata hay aur na hi Charm.....
Theek bola ke nai 
Dandday k zore pe kehalwana hai kia ?
Forever Green
Oct 9 2008, 10:45 PM
QUOTE(~Zuni~ @ Oct 9 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]3076265[/snapback]
Dandday k zore pe kehalwana hai kia ? 
Wohi too .... Woh Kya hay naa ke >>>Laaton ke Bhoot Baton se Nai Mante
JeeNa'
Oct 10 2008, 01:37 AM
QUOTE(~Zuni~ @ Oct 8 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]3075357[/snapback]
Be shak .. aap theek keh rahi hain ... magar approach ka talluq bhi tou tolerance se hua na
Misal k tore pe aik mard ya aurat mein bardasht ka maddah ho hi nahin siray se tou us ki approach kia hogi ? Definitely, he or she will not listen to others point of view with patience instead they will keep on asserting themselves. This kind of behaviour provokes the other party as well and the result is obvious. No body knows about it better than me
hmmmmmm..... i think tolerance ka taluq approach say hota hay....jasy ab koi gr. 1 main hay aur dosra gr 5 main.....gr. 1 wala gr 5 ko samjh hi nahi sakta....lakin beside this....human nature hay koi asy asani say manta nahi keh wo ghalat hay.....to gr 1 wala zid kary ga keh us ko pata hay..halkeh us ko nahi pata....aur yahan par hi tolerance ati hay...mery khyal say gr 5 waly main zada tolerance hay kion keh wo janta hay keh gr 1 wala kia nahi janta..aur jo gr 1 main hay us ki tolarnce kam hay kion keh us ko khud nahi pata keh actually us ko kia pata...aur wo gr 5 jitna bannay ki koshish karta hay....aur isi taqrar main wo itna zada react karta hay keh gr 5 ki waly ki tolerance level say barh jata hay...to larye ho jati hay...aur agar dono gr 5 kay hon to bat ko samjhna asan hota hay gr 4 or 5 bhi chalta hay...par zada differnce satya nass karta hay hamesha....mery khayal say abhi bhi tolerance mental approaches par depand karta hay...lakin ap ka apna experience hay to bhai ap thek ho gey
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