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ilm ~علم

Apni La'ilmi K Ehsaas Ka Naam Ilm Hai… Hum Maloom Ko Ilm Kahtay Hain Halaan'ky Na'maluum Aur La'maluum Bhi Ilm Hain… Ilm Baad~e~Subah Gaahi Aur Aah~e~Sehar Gaahi Sy Milta Hai… Kitaab Ka Ilm Faiz~e~Nazar Tak Nahi Puhunchaa Sakta… Tazkiyey K Bagair Kitaab Ka Ilm Khatray Sy Khaali Nahi… Her Aarif Aalim Hota Hai… Aur Zaruuri Nahi K Her Aalim Aarif Bhi Ho…

Zaruurat Ka Ilm Aur Shey Hai… Aur Ilm Ki Zaruurat Aur Shey Hai…
Ilm Ka Makhzan Nigaah Hai… Aur Is Ka Mad'fan Kitaab Hai… La'ilmi Sy Be'ilmi Behtar Hai… Aaj Ki Taleem Ka Almiyaa Yey Hai K Talaash Rouzgaar K Liyey Hai, Taqarrab Aur Parwardigaar K Liyey Nahin… Who Ilm Noor Hai Jis Main Allah Ki Pehchaan Ho Aur Jis Ilm Sy Gharoor Paida Ho Who Hijaab~e~Akbar Hai… Zyadaa Ilm Jannay Ka Gharoor Agar Na Jannay Ki Aajzii Main Badal Jayey Tu Hijaab Uth Jata Hai… Ilm Us Waqt Tak Haasil Nahi Hota Jab Tak Koi Ataa Karnay Wala Na Ho… Kyunki Asal Ilm Allah Ki Nigaah Sy Milta Hai Kitaab Sy Nahin…

~Wasif Ali Wasif


Kashif
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sikhayay kis nay ISMA'IL (AS) ko aadab-e-farzandi
yeh faizan-e-nazar tha ya maktab ki karamat thi
~Saraj~
Nice quotation from W.A.Wasif.

I would like to say that further key lailmi apni ho ya kisi aur ki ussey jan'ney ki shaoori ya la shaoori justuju ka naam hi ilm hey..aur iss justuju ko ibteda.e.zindagi kaha gya hey aur Rab.ul.Izzat ne Apney Akhri Rasool per jo wahi utari thi uski ibteda bhi IQRA yani ke perh...Ilm hasil karo... se ki heyi ...

Ilm hasil kerna her insan ka bunyadi haq hey aur her insan chahey ya na chahey ilm hasil kerta hey aur her muslaman ke liey ilm hasil kerna lazmi qarar dya gya hey....

Ilm Allah ki woh sab se bari naemat hey jo Insaan ko morfat ke madraij tey kerney meyn aur APNI Zaat ki haqeqaton tak pohanchney ka sab se bara zeriya hey.
Colors of Life
QUOTE(ManPaki @ Oct 9 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]3075768[/snapback]
ilm ~علم

Apni La'ilmi K Ehsaas Ka Naam Ilm Hai… Hum Maloom Ko Ilm Kahtay Hain Halaan'ky Na'maluum Aur La'maluum Bhi Ilm Hain Ilm Baad~e~Subah Gaahi Aur Aah~e~Sehar Gaahi Sy Milta Hai… Kitaab Ka Ilm Faiz~e~Nazar Tak Nahi Puhunchaa Sakta… Tazkiyey K Bagair Kitaab Ka Ilm Khatray Sy Khaali Nahi… Her Aarif Aalim Hota Hai… Aur Zaruuri Nahi K Her Aalim Aarif Bhi Ho…

Zaruurat Ka Ilm Aur Shey Hai… Aur Ilm Ki Zaruurat Aur Shey Hai…
Ilm Ka Makhzan Nigaah Hai… Aur Is Ka Mad'fan Kitaab Hai… La'ilmi Sy Be'ilmi Behtar Hai… Aaj Ki Taleem Ka Almiyaa Yey Hai K Talaash Rouzgaar K Liyey Hai, Taqarrab Aur Parwardigaar K Liyey Nahin… Who Ilm Noor Hai Jis Main Allah Ki Pehchaan Ho Aur Jis Ilm Sy Gharoor Paida Ho Who Hijaab~e~Akbar Hai… Zyadaa Ilm Jannay Ka Gharoor Agar Na Jannay Ki Aajzii Main Badal Jayey Tu Hijaab Uth Jata Hai… Ilm Us Waqt Tak Haasil Nahi Hota Jab Tak Koi Ataa Karnay Wala Na Ho… Kyunki Asal Ilm Allah Ki Nigaah Sy Milta Hai Kitaab Sy Nahin…

~Wasif Ali Wasif




Salam! gud post! yeah jo writting hai app iss ko zara ager deeply perho tow khud he sawal hai aur khud he sawal ka jawab moujood hai musanif khud he confuse lag raha hai mujey lines colored hein zara perhyie again me ko tow aise he laga hai per second paragraph much better!

baat ilm ki tow "ilm na-maloom se maloom kii taraf janay ka rasta hai" Sha'ur kia hai ? ilm ko parakhnay ka pay'ma'na ya scale!

man has been created primarily to know what is good and to regulate his life accordingly. those who do not know, cannot be equal to those who know. Such persons are like a herd of goats, deaf, dumb, and blind, no better than the lowest of beasts. bcoz ilm is the prerogative of man, for he alone possesses the capbility of being virtuous. it not only distinguishes him from animals, but places him above angels who had to bow before Adam, bcoz Adam knew names of things which the angels did not know and in consequence of which Allah Pak was pleased to appoint him His vicegerent upon earth. The excellence of man is the excellence of the ilm he possesses, the superiority of which over everything else, especially over wealth, power .

ye kehna baja hai !that Islam is the path of “ilm". No other religion or ideology has so much emphasized the importance of ilm. In the Qur’an the word aim has occurred in 140 places, while al-ilm in 27. In all, the total number of verses in which ilm or its derivatives and associated words are used is 704. (kuch log pen, aur kitab k perhne ko he ilm samjhtey hein)The aids of ilm/knowledge such as book, pen, ink, etc. amount to almost the same number. Qalam occurs in two places, al Kitab in 230 verses, among which al-kitab for al-Quran occurs in 81 verses. Other words associated with writing occur in 319 verses. It is important to note that pen and book are essential to the acquisition of ilm.

ilm in the western world means information about something, divine or corporeal, while ilm is an all-embracing term covering theory, action and education. The Holy Quran has used many words to express ideas connected with “ilm” and each word has a shade of meaning different from the other. In Arabic language there are two words for gaining “ilm” or information.

1. Khabar
2. Naba

Khabar means information/ilm about common happening and Naba is information/ilm about some very important matter. For “recognition” the root-word is al-arf-‘u’ meaning sweet smell things that happen too often give us no alarm; they are routine happenings and we recognize them just as a matter of course. Irfan has in it the idea of succession, satisfaction and hence recognition. As compared to ilm this word is of a much lower import. An other word is sha’ur which is generally translated into English ‘consciousness’ intellectual moorings, philosophic thinking and abstract concepts were foreign to the Arabs to whom the Holy Quran made its first address. So they did not include these abstracts in sha’ur or consciousness. For them poetry was the highest form of expression for all delicacies, hidden secrets of the heart and fineness of wit and humour or even sacreasm.

Colors of Life
QUOTE(~Saraj~ @ Oct 9 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]3075799[/snapback]
Nice quotation from W.A.Wasif.

I would like to say that further key lailmi apni ho ya kisi aur ki ussey jan'ney ki shaoori ya la shaoori justuju ka naam hi ilm hey..aur iss justuju ko ibteda.e.zindagi kaha gya hey aur Rab.ul.Izzat ne Apney Akhri Rasool per jo wahi utari thi uski ibteda bhi IQRA yani ke perh...Ilm hasil karo... se ki heyi ...

Ilm hasil kerna her insan ka bunyadi haq hey aur her insan chahey ya na chahey ilm hasil kerta hey aur her muslaman ke liey ilm hasil kerna lazmi qarar dya gya hey....

Ilm Allah ki woh sab se bari naemat hey jo Insaan ko morfat ke madraij tey kerney meyn aur APNI Zaat ki haqeqaton tak pohanchney ka sab se bara zeriya hey.



sorry ji kindly yeah thora explain ker dain meko ! app ne bola keh (lailmi apni ho ya kisi aur ki ussey jan'ney ki shaoori ya la shaoori justuju ka naam hi ilm hey)

app la ilm hein yeah idraak kiss ne kiyaa? ???????kaisey huawa
*DhanaK*
good post manpaki bhaiyya
ManPaki
QUOTE(Colors of Life @ Oct 9 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]3076280[/snapback]
Salam! gud post! yeah jo writting hai app iss ko zara ager deeply perho tow khud he sawal hai aur khud he sawal ka jawab moujood hai musanif khud he confuse lag raha hai mujey lines colored hein zara perhyie again me ko tow aise he laga hai per second paragraph much better!

baat ilm ki tow "ilm na-maloom se maloom kii taraf janay ka rasta hai" Sha'ur kia hai ? ilm ko parakhnay ka pay'ma'na ya scale!

man has been created primarily to know what is good and to regulate his life accordingly. those who do not know, cannot be equal to those who know. Such persons are like a herd of goats, deaf, dumb, and blind, no better than the lowest of beasts. bcoz ilm is the prerogative of man, for he alone possesses the capbility of being virtuous. it not only distinguishes him from animals, but places him above angels who had to bow before Adam, bcoz Adam knew names of things which the angels did not know and in consequence of which Allah Pak was pleased to appoint him His vicegerent upon earth. The excellence of man is the excellence of the ilm he possesses, the superiority of which over everything else, especially over wealth, power .

ye kehna baja hai !that Islam is the path of "ilm". No other religion or ideology has so much emphasized the importance of ilm. In the Qur'an the word aim has occurred in 140 places, while al-ilm in 27. In all, the total number of verses in which ilm or its derivatives and associated words are used is 704. (kuch log pen, aur kitab k perhne ko he ilm samjhtey hein)The aids of ilm/knowledge such as book, pen, ink, etc. amount to almost the same number. Qalam occurs in two places, al Kitab in 230 verses, among which al-kitab for al-Quran occurs in 81 verses. Other words associated with writing occur in 319 verses. It is important to note that pen and book are essential to the acquisition of ilm.

ilm in the western world means information about something, divine or corporeal, while ilm is an all-embracing term covering theory, action and education. The Holy Quran has used many words to express ideas connected with "ilm" and each word has a shade of meaning different from the other. In Arabic language there are two words for gaining "ilm" or information.

1. Khabar
2. Naba

Khabar means information/ilm about common happening and Naba is information/ilm about some very important matter. For "recognition" the root-word is al-arf-'u' meaning sweet smell things that happen too often give us no alarm; they are routine happenings and we recognize them just as a matter of course. Irfan has in it the idea of succession, satisfaction and hence recognition. As compared to ilm this word is of a much lower import. An other word is sha'ur which is generally translated into English 'consciousness' intellectual moorings, philosophic thinking and abstract concepts were foreign to the Arabs to whom the Holy Quran made its first address. So they did not include these abstracts in sha'ur or consciousness. For them poetry was the highest form of expression for all delicacies, hidden secrets of the heart and fineness of wit and humour or even sacreasm.


Thankyou so much for adding more informative material in reply.. rose.gif

ap ny jin lines ka zikar kiya hai.. un main writer confused nahi bilkul clear hai infact writer ny Hazrat Ali(A.S) sy mansoob aik quote ko use kiya hai jis main Hazrat ALi(A.S) farmatay hain k apni jahalat ka ilm hona aur us ko maan'na bhi ilm hai..

jb ap khud k La'ilm honay ko manain gey tu hi ap us la'ilm ko haasil karnay ki jastujuu karain gey na.. baat tu saaf aur wazeh hai... smile.gif

thanks once again for this beautiful informative reply.. be happy..
Colors of Life
QUOTE(ManPaki @ Oct 12 2008, 01:22 AM) [snapback]3078632[/snapback]
Thankyou so much for adding more informative material in reply.. rose.gif

ap ny jin lines ka zikar kiya hai.. un main writer confused nahi bilkul clear hai infact writer ny Hazrat Ali(A.S) sy mansoob aik quote ko use kiya hai jis main Hazrat ALi(A.S) farmatay hain k apni jahalat ka ilm hona aur us ko maan'na bhi ilm hai..

jb ap khud k La'ilm honay ko manain gey tu hi ap us la'ilm ko haasil karnay ki jastujuu karain gey na.. baat tu saaf aur wazeh hai... smile.gif

thanks once again for this beautiful informative reply.. be happy..



app teak keh rahay ho but u didnt get me ! iss mein ek term missing hai writter dandi mar gaya hai daikho what i mean is that "k app la ilm hein" ye idraak app per kaise hota hai ? yahan mixing hai iss point ki n confusing kii again perho may be me ki baat samjh sako which i want to clerify,/wanna know ho sakta hai me at fault
~Wasi~
Ahan...zabardast janab...rose.gif
Sharabi_Eyes
good one.. though confusing.. but bottom line is.. to know is to know is to know........ and the loop goes on..... :)
~Saraj~
QUOTE (Colors of Life @ Oct 9 2008, 08:33 PM) *
sorry ji kindly yeah thora explain ker dain meko ! app ne bola keh (lailmi apni ho ya kisi aur ki ussey jan'ney ki shaoori ya la shaoori justuju ka naam hi ilm hey)

app la ilm hein yeah idraak kiss ne kiyaa? ???????kaisey huawa


la-ilmi ka idrak derasal insan (her Jandar) ki mutajisisana fitrat se hota hey...isi tajasus ke teht insan her naee shey ko jan'ney ki shaori ya gher shaori koshish kerta hey...
Colors of Life
QUOTE (~Saraj~ @ Nov 4 2008, 02:56 PM) *
la-ilmi ka idrak derasal insan (her Jandar) ki mutajisisana fitrat se hota hey...isi tajasus ke teht insan her naee shey ko jan'ney ki shaori ya gher shaori koshish kerta hey...



~*$@η!*~
Really Nice!
~Saraj~
QUOTE (Colors of Life @ Nov 4 2008, 05:35 PM) *


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