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Najman
QUOTE (seemel @ Aug 1 2005, 01:51 PM)
Kiya Waqayee jab TAK ..Khawateen ghar sye nikal ker merdoun ki terhan kaam nahi kertee hien .. tab tak koe b mulk aur qoom taraaqi nahi ker saktee... agar ayessi sorat-e-haal hey tu kia humari khawateen ko b mulk ki taraqi k leye ... merdoun ki terhan kaam kernaa chahyee????

auratoN ki tarah hi kaam karr lein seemel tou bari baat hai..mardon ki tarah kaam karne ki kya zaroorat hai..390.gif
Jummi
QUOTE (Najman @ Aug 16 2005, 02:57 PM)
auratoN ki tarah hi kaam karr lein seemel tou bari baat hai..mardon ki tarah kaam karne ki kya zaroorat hai..390.gif

another.... ~just a thought 390.gif good 121.gif
seemel
QUOTE (Asad_Ullah @ Aug 1 2005, 09:54 AM)
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Abu Adnan bhai ka mutlub yai nahi tha... aap ghour kerrin unhoun nay Pai'manoun key baat key hai.Es terhan tou Bohat sari khawateen Taleem kay shobey maiN bhi hain un ka kya.JO bhi kaam ho laikin Islam key taleemat ko mudd-e- nazer rukh ker aur phir Alim-e-Deen say discuss kerkay kiya jaye.Es terhan patta chal jaye ga kya behtar hai Khawateen kay liye.Abu Adnan es barrey may ager aap ko koi Information Humrey Muzhub kay hawaley say hai tou Quote kijye Shukriya rose.gif

heek Asad Bhai
seemel
QUOTE (Abu Adnan @ Aug 1 2005, 10:30 AM)
maiN nay yeh nahee kaha k khawateen kaam nah karaiN ... kiyouNkay yeh to impossible hai k kissi islamic society maiN khawateen kaam nah karaiN. coz islamic society maiN khawateen kaam nahee karengi to kia aurtoun ka elaj mard karengay... aurtouN ko taleem mard dengay... aurtaiN apni niswani zarooriyaat ki khareedari mardouN say karengi ... aurtaiN apnay khelaaf honay walay zulm k madawa k liyeh mard woklaa k pass jayengee etc etc.

al.gharz aik islamic society maiN bhi aurtouN ka kaam karna naguzeer hai ... lekin islamic / muslim society maiN aurtaiN sirf mardouN k shanah bah shanah chalnay ya onka moqaablah karnay k liyeh kaam naheeN karengee / nahee karni chahiyeh. jahaaN kaheeN bhi zati zaroorat ho job / business kar sakti haiN balkay karna chahiyeh ... aur jahaaN jahaaN qaumi / milli zaroorat ho wahaaN apni zati zaroorat nah bhi ho to (as eg above) to bhi kaam karna paRega / karna chahiyeh.

muslim aurtouN k kaam karneki wahid shart yeh hai k woh above 2 soortouN maiN kaam karengi aur koi aisa kaam naheeN karengi jo ghair islami ho (aur yeh shart to mardouN k liyeh bhi hai) ..... yani jism ki nomaish k liyeh modelling, gana, naach, lady secretary for gents, mardouN ki khidmat k liyey waitress etc. yeh saray kaam specially secular society nay mardouN ki ayyashi k liyeh nikalay haiN jiski islamic / muslim society maiN zaroorat / ijazat naheeN.

baqi aurtouN ko kaam karnay say kaun rok sakta hai jab khud hamaray piyaray Nabi (PBUH) ki zaujah mohtarma aur ummul momeneen hazrat khadeejah tul kubra tejarat farmaya karti theeN.

eyesss.gif eyesss.gif Hmmm Nice reply Usuf bhai
seemel
QUOTE (bad4u @ Aug 1 2005, 10:57 AM)
haan yeah khiyal theek hay
kion keh app khud sochein keh
hamary molak ke 50% takreban abade aortoon per hay

yanii 50% too waisyy he ghar baith kar khate hien
aore bake 0% mein say maximum job na milny kaa rona roty hein
is liye
halat behtar bananyy kay liye in ko samny ana chahiye

but is mein kuch pareeshaniyan bhe hein
aorat aore mard ka ikhatyy rehna bhe galat hay
soo

ham ko aisa tareeka samny lana hay jis say aoratein seprate hoo ker apny molak ke tarakee men hath bhara sakein

waqayee jab Boys ko nahi theek terhan sye jobs mill rahien tu girls kiesey .... new jobs ka chance ley saktee hien
seemel
QUOTE (Najman @ Aug 16 2005, 09:57 AM)
auratoN ki tarah hi kaam karr lein seemel tou bari baat hai..mardon ki tarah kaam karne ki kya zaroorat hai..390.gif

121.gif wah kiyaa khoob kaha hey ...liekin woh kiya hey naa K magrib mien loog aurat aur mard ki tafreeq mitaney k leye un ki fitret ko b mitaney ki koshish ker rhay hien aur hum un k peechey andha dhundh bhagtey hien ... liekin app ney khob kaha ...
Saya e Gul
Javed Chaudhry ka aik column yaad aa geya. 390.gif Us mein us ne likha tha ke aaj West mein log is baat ki shiddat se zarurat mehsus ker rahey hein ke aurton ko ghar mein reh ke bachchey paalney chahiyein ta ke unhein akhlaaqiyaat sikhai ja sakein aur society be raah rawi ki rawish se alehda ho jaye. Aur hamrey yahan huqooq e naswaan ke alambardaar aaj aurat ko ghar se bahar nikalney ko keh rahey hein. Ghar ke kaam kaaj kerna bhi koi kam duty nahin. Rozaana regularly yeh sab kerna bhi hamara taraqii mein kirdaar hi hai. Mehmanon ki aamad pe sab pakwaan ghar mein tayyaar ker ke hum mulk ka kitna akseer zar e mubaadla bacha letey hein. 390.gif
Zindagi
QUOTE (Abu Adnan @ Aug 1 2005, 02:13 PM)
taraqqi k paimanay juda juda haiN. bilkhasoos muslims aur ghair muslims k mabain.... pahlay to aap yeh tay karaiN k hum taraqqi ka kaun saa paimanah select karna chahtya haiN....

aik mushahidah hai k ghair muslim aqwaam nay oss waqt tak taraqqi naheeN ki jab tak onhouN nay apnay mazhab ko pasay pusht naheeN Daal dia .... aur muslims oss waqt tak tanazzali ka shikaar naheeN howay jab tak onhouN nay apnay deen ko pasay pusht naheeN Daal dia.......... hum non-muslims ki tarah deen ko turk karkay taraqqi naheen karsaktay........ aur woh apnay deen ko thaam kar taraqqi nahee karsaktay.......coz onka deen naqis hai aur hamara deen kamil.

hamari taraqqi, hamara zameer, hamara zehni sakoon, hamara ekhlaaq, hamari okhrawi dunya ki kaamyabi sab include hai ... jabkay non-muslims ki taraqqi in sab say aaree hai .... onhaiN nah to apni izzat piyari hai (lehaza asmat faroshi karkay bhi woh taraqqi kartay haiN) nah zameer ka khayal hai aur nah hi onhaiN marnay k baad ki fikar hai......... onhaiN nah to apnay bachchouN ka khayal hai (iski zimmah daar reyasat hai) nah old parents ka nah zaroorta mand aziz o aqaraib / ka .... jab kay aik muslims apni taraqqi maiN in sab ko shamil karta hai.

Agreed 121.gif

aap ke reply ne mera point of view poori tarha define kar diya hai 390.gif
Numaan
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welll
ager merd aur auret ikethey kaam kerne lagein to iss main herj koi nahin hai
laikin iss se aise mesaayel paida honge jo k na kaabil e hull honge aur un ko
hell kerne k liye aik strategy ikhtyaar kerni paregi jo k yehaan shayad hi kaaregar saabit ho
jehaan tek un non muslims ka sewaal hai unhon nain strategy to rekhi uska
faida bhi hua aur mesaayel kem bhi hue laikin sirf aik chothhayee
jeb dekha gya k temaam mesaayel hel nahin hote inhon nain strategy hi khetem ker di
aur mesaayel berhte gaye berhte gaye aur taaza sooratehaal aap k saamne hai
ager hum aisa kerein to hum apne mezheb se bohot duur chale jaayen ge

but islaam main iss ki itni sekht mumaanyet nahin hai
auret aur merd aik saath kaam ker sekte hain basharte k dil main futoor aur zehn main gandgi na ho

Hazoor e Akram (SAW)ager daawet e aam ka fareeza merdon main adaa ker rehe they to Hazrat Fatma (RA), Hazrat Aaysha (RA) aur Hazrat Khadija (RA) bhi
aurton main muballigh theen ...................
laikin aaj kel k haalaat mukhtalif hain ......................... jo k aap k saamne hi hain
mashriq maghrib ki andhi takleed ker reha hai
aur ager hum chaahen bhi to isey rok nahin sakte ..........
thanks
Numaan
QUOTE (Numaan @ Aug 24 2005, 11:38 AM)
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welll
ager merd aur auret ikethey kaam kerne lagein to iss main herj koi nahin hai
laikin iss se aise mesaayel paida honge jo k na kaabil e hull honge aur un ko
hell kerne k liye aik strategy ikhtyaar kerni paregi jo k yehaan shayad hi kaaregar saabit ho
jehaan tek un non muslims ka sewaal hai unhon nain strategy to rekhi uska
faida bhi hua aur mesaayel kem bhi hue laikin sirf aik chothhayee
jeb dekha gya k temaam mesaayel hel nahin hote inhon nain strategy hi khetem ker di
aur mesaayel berhte gaye berhte gaye aur taaza sooratehaal aap k saamne hai
ager hum aisa kerein to hum apne mezheb se bohot duur chale jaayen ge

but islaam main iss ki itni sekht mumaanyet nahin hai
auret aur merd aik saath kaam ker sekte hain basharte k dil main futoor aur zehn main gandgi na ho

Hazoor e Akram (SAW)ager daawet e aam ka fareeza merdon main adaa ker rehe they to Hazrat Fatma (RA), Hazrat Aaysha (RA) aur Hazrat Khadija (RA) bhi
aurton main muballigh theen ...................
laikin aaj kel k haalaat mukhtalif hain ......................... jo k aap k saamne hi hain
mashriq maghrib ki andhi takleed ker reha hai
aur ager hum chaahen bhi to isey rok nahin sakte ..........
thanks

aur jehaan tek tereqqi ka sewaal hai
tereqqi zemaane ki dhaur k mutaabiq hi hoti hai
iss liye ye aaj ki zaroorat hai k merd aur auret ikethey kaam kerein
so instead of hesitating
we should accept it without any gend and koora kerket
laikin rules se het ker kucch nahin
i think aap meri baat semejh gaye honge
thanks
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