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Salman4u
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Aur HC K Pyearay Pyeray Doston

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Main aap sub say islami section say mutaliq chand baten karna chahta hoon aap is ko meri tajweez bhe samjh saktay hain.

Bhai hum sub Al Humduallah Ek Din k mannay walay hain ek Allah k mannay walay hain han ye sahee hai k hum main say koi kisee maslak ka manay wala hai koi kissi maslak ka mannay wala hai aur koi kisee.

Aur i know bouhat t akleef hoti hai jub kisee k aqeeday k baray main koi ya aus k naffi koi post karta hai koi topic banata hai jo aus k aqeeday k khilaf ho to bouhat takleef hoti hai to kia ye nahain ho sakta hum main say jo jiss aqeeday say talooq rakhta hai jo jiss maslak say talooq rakhta hai wo apnay topics apni post banay magar kissi doosray k aqeeday ya aus k maslak k khilaf apany lub na kholay aus ko ger wo baat wo aqeeda wo topic pasand nahain to wo aus pay reply he na day magar aus k maslak ko chaird k aus kee naffi kar k aus kee shan main gustakhi kar k kissi k mazhabi jazbat majroo karna say kia ye yeh behtar nahain k aap ko jo baat jo cheez pasand he nain hai aap wahan jain he na wahan reply he na dain is say kissi doosray k jazbat majroor nahain hongay

magar jub is pay ammal nahain kia jaay ga to phir doosray ko majbooran apnay dalail bhe daynay pardain gay jiss say phir wo he jazbat majroro karnay wali baat ka samna karna parday ga.


Aur kiya islami section main sirf hum ek doosray k khilaf he post karain hum kiya islami section main sirf ye he hona chaheay aur bhe hazaron masail hain namaz kee baten karain, deeni masail pay baat karain, qadyani group jo apni tableekh say hamaray masoom bhaion ko dil gumrah kartay hain aun kee nishandahi karain islam k arkan k baray main baat karain.

han apnay maslak apnay aqeeday pay bhe bolain bilkul bolain magar aus aqeeday ko ger main nahain manta to main chup rahoon wahan pay main aaun he nahain aus topci pay, magar naffi kar k gustahi kar k bay ja dalail day k hum sirf ek doosray k jazbat he majroo kar saktay hain aur kuch nahain.


ab aap daikhain Shabrat Sahaban kee naffi main ek sath kitnay topic bana deay gay hain in topics main kissi k aqeeday kee naffi kee ja rahee hai kissi k jazbat say khela ja raha hai jiss ko daikh k pardh k aap ka doosra bhai jo aus aqeeday ko manay wala hai wo bhe dukhi ho sakta hai aus k jawab main jub wo bolay ga to aap k jazbat bhe majroo hongay.

is leay ye silsila khudara band kar dain aap hum sub mil k hum apnay aqeeday k mutabiq post zaroro karain magar khudara doosron ko na charain kyun k aap k aur meray behas karnay say ye mamlat khatam nahain hongay

ye behas to sadion say chal rahee hai hazaron manzray ho chukay hain ulma e ikram k darmain magar aun say kcuh hasil nahain hoowa

plz hum ko apnay raston pay chalnay dain aap apnay rastay pay chalain kiya aesa ho sakta hai ger aesa ho sakta hai to plz is pay aaj he say ammal kar dain

aap ka shukar guzar rahoon ga main

khan_amer
hum agr in suggestions ko implement kiya jaye tu kiya hoga???

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tu yeh website bun jaye gee.. web forum nahi rahay ga... kyoN.kay forum kuch bhi share kiya jata hay tu uss per comments (huq maiN ya khilaf) laynay ki niyat say hi kiya jata hay.. issi liya REPLY option enable rehta hay..

yeh tu technical reason ho gayee

ab Islami nukta-e-nazr say sochaiN tu app keh rahaiN hay kay agr koy kisi wajah say ghalat kam ker raha hay tu ussay kernay daiN.. uss ki islaah na karaiN... bayshak mubahisay sadiyooN say chalay aa rahay haiN.. aur inhi ki tufail buhat zyada nahi tu maqool taadad maiN logooN ko kuch na kuch seekhnay ko milta hay... aur koy na koy rah-e-hidayat paa layta hay...


YahaaN per eak waqaya quote kerdooN kay eak qom per azaab aya... woh qom 3 tabqooN maiN baTi howi thee
pehla nay kufr/shirk ikhtayaar kiya howa tha
dosra sahi rastay per tha per pehlay say ta'ruz nahi kerta tha yani un kay baqool agr woh ghalat ker rahay haiN tu kernay doo
teesra sahi rastay per tha per pehlay ko un rahay raast per lanay ki koshish maiN laga rehta tha...

aakhir Allah ka azaab aan puhncha aur pehli donooN gorup tabah ker diya gay... kyoN... yeh eak hadees say bhi wazay hota hay kay agr tum bura-i dekho tu ussay haath say roko agr haath say roknay ki taqat nahi rekhtay tu zuban say roko agr iss ki bhi himat nahi hay tu dil maiN bura janoo aur yeh iman ki kamzoor tareen halut hogi...

tu bhai app yahaaN per hamay kis halut maiN dekhna chahtay haiN apni suggestions ki roshni maiN jawab dee jiye ga
Salman4u
ok brother as u wish theek hai chalatay rehain aesay he jaisay chal raha hai yahan har ek aalim ban gaiya hai apnay pass say quran k ghalat tarjumay peash kar raha hai aur aap bhai kehtay hain karnay dain aun ko aesa to theek hai dear aesay he sahee hazoor kee shan main gustakhi kar raha hai aur kaha jata hai chalnay dain aesay he to ok sahee hai chalnay dain aesay he magar hum tehzib k dairay main rehtay hooway aesi post ka aur aesay logon ko jawab zaroor dain gay

phir wo hazrat ye shikwa na karain k hum boltay hain
muskan_kaun
Har Shaks ko apne aqaydi aur malek ke muatbiq Jeenay ka huq hai.. Laikin Jahan tak Post ki baat hai to Mera Khayal hai Kah Is ke lya Har mazhab ke alag alag Forum bhi banay hoya hain.. to bahatar nahi kah wo Member usii se Mutaliq Forum mai apne Mazhab maslik se mutaleeq Discuss karain...
Khalish
QUOTE (Salman4u @ Sep 18 2005, 07:00 PM)
ok brother as u wish theek hai chalatay rehain aesay he jaisay chal raha hai yahan har ek aalim ban gaiya hai apnay pass say quran k ghalat tarjumay peash kar raha hai aur aap bhai kehtay hain karnay dain aun ko aesa to theek hai dear aesay he sahee hazoor kee shan main gustakhi kar raha hai aur kaha jata hai chalnay dain aesay he to ok sahee hai chalnay dain aesay he magar hum tehzib k dairay main rehtay hooway aesi post ka aur aesay logon ko jawab zaroor dain gay

phir wo hazrat ye shikwa na karain k hum boltay hain

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Mujhe Khan_Amer rose.gif ki tehreer se poora poora itifaaq hai. HC Islam Section ka maqsad mukhtalif firqooN ki tarjumaani ya tarveej nahi hai. Yahaan per hum yeh koshish chahte haiN keh Allah aur usske Rasool (SAW) ke deen ko samajhne meiN apne members ko madad daiN.

Aik baat aap ne kahi hai keh loog quraani aayat ka matlab apni marzi se nikaal leyte haiN aur logooN ko gumrah karte haiN. Aap ne 'Baeeyat' wali post jo ki hai voh aap ke kahe per poori utarti hai. Jin mosoof ne bhi yeh mazmoon likha hai unhooN ne vohi kuch kiya hai jo aap keh rahe haiN.

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Daylight
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kia ye nahain ho sakta hum main say jo jiss aqeeday say talooq rakhta hai jo jiss maslak say talooq rakhta hai wo apnay topics apni post banay magar kissi doosray k aqeeday ya aus k maslak k khilaf apany lub na kholay aus ko ger wo baat wo aqeeda wo topic pasand nahain to wo aus pay reply he na day magar aus k maslak ko chaird k aus kee naffi kar k aus kee shan main gustakhi kar k kissi k mazhabi jazbat majroo karna say kia ye yeh behtar nahain k aap ko jo baat jo cheez pasand he nain hai aap wahan jain he na wahan reply he na dain is say kissi doosray k jazbat majroor nahain hongay


Agar aapkay inn points ko valid samjha jaaye to jo ghair Qurani aur hindu-ana rasm o rawaaj islami samajh ker kiye jaatay hain unki nafi bhi nahin kerni chaahiye,balkeh qadiyaniyun ki bhi bila-wajah nafi ker ke unkay jazbaat majrooh kiye gaye aur un bechaaron ko ghair muslim qarar de diya gaya , hana??

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han apnay maslak apnay aqeeday pay bhe bolain bilkul bolain magar aus aqeeday ko ger main nahain manta to main chup rahoon wahan pay main aaun he nahain aus topci pay, magar naffi kar k gustahi kar k bay ja dalail day k hum sirf ek doosray k jazbat he majroo kar saktay hain aur kuch nahain.


Bilkul sahi janab....meine aapki issi baat par amal kiya...aapne shab e baraat ke hawalay se aik topic start kya.....wo mere maslak ke khilaaf tha aur uss se mere jazbaat majrooh huway laikin aapki baat par amal kertay huway mein kuch nahin bola balkeh araam se aik alag topic start ker diya jis mein shab e barat ke mutallik apnay maslak ke mutaabik post ki...........Ab aapkay apne asoolon ke mutabik aapko mere topic mein aa ker meri nafi ker ke meray jazbaat ko majrooh nahin kerna chahaiye tha........Laikin aap wahan bhi aaye ..........KYUN??? Jis baat par aap khud amal nahin ker rahay usko tajweez ke taur par kaise pesh ker saktay hain???

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ye behas to sadion say chal rahee hai hazaron manzray ho chukay hain ulma e ikram k darmain magar aun say kcuh hasil nahain hoowa


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Aur kiya islami section main sirf hum ek doosray k khilaf he post karain hum kiya islami section main sirf ye he hona chaheay aur bhe hazaron masail hain 


Aapki abhi recently entry hui hai uss section mein , lehaza dekhtay hain ke aapne kin azeem masaail par ab tak posts ki hain......yakeenan aapne ikhtalafi subjects par baat nahin ki ho gi kyunkeh aapne abhi khud hi kaha ke kya sirf wohi masaail reh gaye hain jin par itnay saaray munazray ho chukay hain...........

Here is the list of ur topics

1- Illm E Ghaib Aur Munkarain (Ye aik ikhtalafi topic tha jaisa ke topic ke start mein bhi kaha gaya aur phir Deobandi aur Wahabi hazraat par phhabti kasi gayi, aur na hi unko ehle sunnat mein shaamil kya aapne.......aapkay nazdeek shaaid ehle sunnat mein najane kon shamil hai?? )

2- 20 Rakaat Tarawee Ka Saboot Munkireen Ke Liye (Ye bhi aik ikhtalfi mauzoo tha laikin phir bhi bila wajah aapne start ker diya)

3- Bait ki Sharayee Haisiyyat (Ye bhi aik ikhtalfi topic tha aur iss mein bhi doosray masalik ko bura bhala kaha gaya)

4- Eesaal e Sawab Ka Saboot (Again ye bhi aik ikhtalfi topic tha)

5- Maah e Shaban (Ye bhi ikhtalfi topic tha kyunke iss mein aapne sufia ki kitabon se Hazoor(PBUH) ki rawayaat bayaan ki jabke ahadith mein authority muhaddiseen ko hai sufiya ko nahin aur jin rawayaat ka aapne zikr kya unko muhaddiseen ghalat bata chukay hain)

6- Eid Milad Un Nabi(PBUH) ki Sharayee Haisiyyat (Ye bhi aik ikhtalfi topic tha)

7- Naat e Rasool e Maqbool (Iss mein aapne naat pesh ki laikin wo bhi ikhtalfi ashaar waali......maslan aik shair tha "Kiss Ko Aaqa Musibat Mein Aawaz Doon, Mera Tere Siwa Aur Koi Nahi". Jabke Allah ne kaha hai ke museebat ke wakt Allah ko pukaro.


To mere bhai jab aapne har topic hi ikhtalfi start kya hai to phir wahan wo laog to reply karain gay na jinko uss se ikhtalaf hai......to iss se aap phir ghabraatay kyun hain?? ya to ikhtalafi topic start hi na karain aur agar kerna hai to to ye sab kuch pehlay hi expectker lein........

Apnay topics khud dekh lein aur phir apni wo baat ke mera asool hai ke kisi ke maslak ko chhairo na........aur ye bhi ke hum loag sirf ikhtalafi mauzoo par hi kyun posts kertay hain.....aur ye bhi ke hazaron doosray masaail hain sirf ikhtalfi baaton par hi hum kyun posts kertay hain.........Inn sab baaton ka jawab aap apnay aap se poochein..........Pehlay khud ghair ikhtalfi aur tameeri posts karain aur phir yahan bakiyun ko mashwaray dein.......

Quran kehta hai ke "Ye wo loag hain jo kehtay kuch aur hain aur kertay kuch aur hain".
Daylight
Aik aakhri baat ke aap apni posts mein jis website ke images use ker rahay hain uska naam hai
http://www.islamicacademy.org/

Aur iss website par Main Page par hi likha hua hai

"Every material on this website is for personal use only. For commercial and website use you must acquire written permission from us."

So u must get their permission first otherwise it will be un-ethical and un-islamic attitude to use their images 114.gif


Salman4u
QUOTE (Daylight @ Sep 18 2005, 08:46 PM)




Assalam O Alikum

hahah.gif aap nay bardi aasan see baten kee hain hazrat jin k jawabat ek chohta bacha bhe day sakta hai to main eo ek 24 saal ka noujawan hoon lolz........


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Agar aapkay inn points ko valid samjha jaaye to jo ghair Qurani aur hindu-ana rasm o rawaaj islami samajh ker kiye jaatay hain unki nafi bhi nahin kerni chaahiye,balkeh qadiyaniyun ki bhi bila-wajah nafi ker ke unkay jazbaat majrooh kiye gaye aur un bechaaron ko ghair muslim qarar de diya gaya , hana??


ye aap nay jo misal dee hai dear wo to bouhat bachkana hai qadnai group kee aap nay example dee hai to dear main sirf itna arz karoon ga aun ka to khatam e rasool pay he iman nahain hai wo na to koi maslak hai na he musalman is leay aap kee is baat ka jawab ye he hai k aun ka khatam e naboowat pay he iman nahain hai to aun kee misal aap nay dee wo samjh nain aai.


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Bilkul sahi janab....meine aapki issi baat par amal kiya...aapne shab e baraat ke hawalay se aik topic start kya.....wo mere maslak ke khilaaf tha aur uss se mere jazbaat majrooh huway


lolz... ye bhe aap kee ek bachkana see baat hai mairay aziz dost kyun k aap k jazbat jub majroro hotay jub aap k aqeeday k khilaf hum koi topci banatay i mean jo kaam aap kartay hain i mean jo aap k amaslak karta hai aur hum aus kee nafi kartay ya aus k baray main remarks daytay jasiay 40 roza chilla, midhat e sahaba ka jaloos jo daveband jamat nikala karti hain hum aus k baray main ger post kartay to aap k jazbat majroro hotay hazrat aur aap nay hamaray aqaid k baray main aesa zaroro kiya jiss say hamain dukh hoowa magar ab mod's nay kaha hai k aap aesay topic post kar saktay hain to theek hai hum bhe aap k ghalat aur ghear sharri kamon kee nishndahi karain gay ab say.


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Aapki abhi recently entry hui hai uss section mein , lehaza dekhtay hain ke aapne kin azeem masaail par ab tak posts ki hain......yakeenan aapne ikhtalafi subjects par baat nahin ki ho gi kyunkeh aapne abhi khud hi kaha ke kya sirf wohi masaail reh gaye hain jin par itnay saaray munazray ho chukay hain.


Tanz k nashtar achay chalatay hain dear wasiay aap kee ittla k leay arz karta chaloon k ye aap kee kham khaiyali hai hazrat k meri new entry hain yahan
meri hc say he nahain islami section say bhe bouhat purani wabastagi hai jub aap ka yahan wajood he nahain thaa bouhat old sathi hain hamaray aus dour k ghazal, ali chodhary, raja bhai ek dost hota tha maira yahan musharaf sadi ye sub old members ger main apna old user id old naam jo main pehlay yahan aat athaa bata doon to wo puranay sathi shaid mujhay ba khoobi jaan jain gay magar main nay chand wajoohat kee binah pay ye board chord diya thaa.

aur jahan tak doosray azeem topics kee aap nay baat kee HC pay wo pehlay bantay thay dear ye sub bouhat kum hota thaa jo aaj ho raha hai aur main aap ko bana k dikhaun ka wo topics magar aap loug aun topic pay aana pasand he nahain kartay aap sirf ikhtelafi topic pay he baat kartay hain behas aur takrar kartay hain mazrat k sath.

aur mairay jin topics kee nishandahi aap nay karee hai hazrat wo hum nay apnay difah main banay hain k hamain bouhat say hazrat ye boltay rehjtay hain taraweeh k kahan zikar hai, falan ka kahan zikar hai wo bidat wo sahee wo ghalat wo sahee to is leay bhe banay gay hain

aur aap ko kiss nay roka hai aap bhe apnay opper lagay gay ilzamat ka difah karain hazrat jaisa main abhi ek topic bana raha hoon 40 roza chilla k baray main aap aus k difah main topci banain hum to chhatay thay k eo doosray k aqeeday ko na chairdain magar aap sub bhai keh rahay hain is main koi harj n ahain to sahee hum he aap kee baat maan jatay hain


aur aus website kee apa fikar na karain jub maloom na ho to bola na karain k meri aus website say kiya wabasragi hai eusa_dance.gif

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Daylight
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i mean jo aap k amaslak karta hai aur hum aus kee nafi kartay ya aus k baray main remarks daytay jasiay 40 roza chilla, midhat e sahaba ka jaloos jo daveband jamat nikala karti hain


390.gif Achha to aap samajh rahay ho ke mein deobandi hon grin.gif .....Ji nahin mera talluk kisi bhi firkay ya maslak se nahin mein sirf aik saada sa musalmaan hon.....aur jahan tak 40 roza chilla aur midhat e sahaba ke jaloos ki baat hai to kasam le lein ke aaj ye dono cheezain zindagi mein pehli baar suni hain 390.gif


Mazeed kuch nahin kahon ga kyunke utna hi kaafi hai jitna meine pehlay keh diya 390.gif

Salman4u
QUOTE (Daylight @ Sep 18 2005, 09:39 PM)

390.gif Achha to aap samajh rahay ho ke mein deobandi hon grin.gif .....Ji nahin mera talluk kisi bhi firkay ya maslak se nahin mein sirf aik saada sa musalmaan hon.....aur jahan tak 40 roza chilla aur midhat e sahaba ke jaloos ki baat hai to kasam le lein ke aaj ye dono cheezain zindagi mein pehli baar suni hain 390.gif


Mazeed kuch nahin kahon ga kyunke utna hi kaafi hai jitna meine pehlay keh diya 390.gif

Tajub hai aap ko sirf hamaray maslak kee bidat nazar aati hai wo sun laytay hain aap magar chilay ka zikar aap nay aaj tak nahain suna tajub hai


khair meri mod's aur admin say request hai k mairay in dono topic ko lock kar diya jaay kyun k main nay yahan jo soch k topci banaya thaa wo shaid yahan kabhi na ho paay to plz baykar kee behas is tajaweez aur shikayat main achee nahain lagti plz aap is ko close kar dain meharbani ho gee
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