Ham piyasey mer jaieN gey magar Kalabagh nahiN banney deinngay.Iss ikhtilaf ki ek wajha Zia dor mein us k gaverner Fazle Haq ki shararat hey jis apni drug smuggling ko bachaney k liye Zia ko black black mail ker raha tha,warna iss sey pehley Kalabagh ki mukhalfat kisi ney nahiN ki thi ! Phir yeh issue qom parastoN k hath lag gaya.Iss ka illaj ek hi hey Musharaf ko chahiye Marshal Law laga ker dam bana ley.Jamhooriyat na hamarey qabil hey na hum jamhooriyat k qabil hein

2 sawal paida hoota hai, pehla yeh ka joo loog kala bagh ka khilaf muhim chalata haiin unn koo kala bagh ka techinical aspects ka pata hai bhi ya nahi ya just muklafaat bare muklafaat? doosra yeh ka mush govt jab foriegn policy per u turn laity hai too kissi sa nahi poochti, waziristaan per operation hoota hai joo poora pakistan koo andhara mai rekha jata hai, kashmeer sa mutalik aqwaam-e-mutahida kii qarardadoon sa dastbardaar hoya jta hai too kissi saa ijazaat nahi lii jati magar kala bagh daim banaana ka lia poora mulk saa poocha jata hai, har siasaadaan koo talb kar ka uss saa raye lii jati hai akhir kyunn? kya wajah yeh ka destruction ka kamoon mai kisi sa nahi poochna aur construction aik aik pahar lagana kaa lia har kissi sa ijazaat talb karna

Smugling ka tu mujhay nai pata per Kalabagh mukhalifat muhim wali khan group nay zia dor maiN ghaliban USSR kay imma per hi shoroo key thee... aur iss key mukhalifat maiN hamesha muta'sib illaa'qai jamataiN hi raheeN haiN, jin ka dana pani "bahir" say aata hay!!!




Begum naseem wali nay eak dafa yeah eitraf kiya tha kay technically kalabagh maiN koy fault nahi hay per yeh issue ki mukhalifat khatam kernay say un ki syasi mout waqay ho jatee hay!!!

meray khayal say Mush govt koy aur baRa karnama anjaam dayna chahtee hay.. ju unhooN nay qomi debate ka yeh topic shoroo ker diya hay!!!

Mein phir kehta huN k Kalabagh per kabhi bhi ittifaq nahiN hoga.Masla technical nahiN siyasi hey.Wali Khan ney bhi Fazle-e-haq k kehnay per hi shosha uthaya tha,warna koi bat hi nahiN thi.Iss ka ilaj hey joota....joota or sirf joota

1. kala baagh dam k khelaaf sindh (qaum parastouN) kay 2 noun qism etrazaat hai. technically bhi aur seyasi bhi ......... inka "technical work" bhi "sound" hai aur seyasi judtification bhi "reasonable".

2. seyasi etraaz yeh hai k Dam bannay k baad punjab iss dam say apnay soobay bhar maiN canals nikaal kar punjaab ko khush.haal karega aur sindh tak pani naheeN anay dega. WOH iss silsilay main punjaab ki kissi bhi "yaqeen dahani" /agreement ko mannay ko tayyar naheeN. jiski teen wajooh haiN.

a) punjaab par etmaad naheeN

b) punjab pahlay bhi water agreements ki khelaaf warzee kar chuka hai

c) bil.aakhir hum nay sindhu desh banana hai. aur jab sindhu dsh ban jayega to punjab sab say pahlay pani rokega (agar dam bana howa ho to)... aur agar sindhu desh bannay tak dam nah bana to baad maiN punjab k liyeh aisa karna mushkil hojayega. phir yeh international issue ban chuka hoga. punjaab (ya baqya pakistan) jab india say baglihaar dam par etraaz kar skta hai to sindhu desh bhi punjab k kala bagh dam per etraaz kar sakta hai........... lekin yeh last reason off the record hai on the record naheeN.

agreed iss DAM ki mukhalifat kernay walooN ko DAM maiN hi dafan ker dayna chahiyee!!!






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aur yeh hay asal reason!!!

iss waqt mujhay yaad nahee aaraha ... magar inka kahna hai k "xxx project" say canals nikaalna, ibteda maiN project ka hissa naheeN tha.... magar baad maiN nikaal lee gayeeN .... yaad agay to theek warnah pooch kar batayouNga.

jiss sindhi ne bhi yeh argument paish kiya hai woh ya to intihai ahmeq insaan hai ya phir propaganda ker raha hai. ager khudanakhasta kabhi sindhu desh ban bhi gaya to punjab kaisai paani band ker day ga aakhir punjab ki saari import exports sindh se guzer ker jaati hain ager sinhd woh band ker day to punjab kiya bombay ke raasaty tijaaret karay ga?
I think kaalabagh dam is essential to country's survival but in our country everyone cares about their self-interest and noone cares about the country. Sindh is halting the construction of kalabagh dam because of bogus concerns and punjab as we all know has always been acting selfish and is not willing to sacrifice even 1% of its 57% quota(which is population-based) from the NFC awards for undeveloped provinces like balochistan and NWFP. khair sindh aur NWFP ki stance bhi apni jaga sahih hai ke jab punjab baaqi mulk ki perwa nahi kerta to hum kyoon karain. I don't support this kind of thinking, two wrongs don't make a right...In the end, bad for pakistan. chalo sindh waalay to kehtay hain zindagi aur maut ka maslaa hai yeh NWFP waalay mukhalifat kyoon ker rahay hain. I think the only reason is that they are angry that punjab doesn't want to compromise on NFC(which is something that really hurts the smaller provinces), so why should they compromise on Kalabagh.

and its wrong to say that only jiye sindh people r against kalabagh. Almost all sindhis whether they are from PPP, PML, Jmaat e islami, tehreek e insaaf, JUI, etc. are united against the kalabagh dam. Perhaps MQM can bail musharraf out here by supporting KBD in sindh but for that sindhis will never forgive the urdu-speaking community and will call them traitors to the sindh dharti for the rest of their lives. Thats why MQM is afraid to come out and openly support KBD even though majority of the MQM supporters, leaders, and workers support it. I don't know what alatf thinks about it though. I think he will stay neutral to avoid being called "punjab's agent" by sindhis.

gawadar port kiss liyeh ban raha hai ? gawadar say punjab tak road link pahlay mokammal horahi hai bah nisbat gawadar-karachi road link k



u r rite k "sindhi speaking" khaah kissi bhi maktabah fikar ka ho ... kissi bhi party say talluq rakhta ho woh sab k sab direct ya indirect, zobaan say yaa dil say ... "sindh cause" per muttafiq haiN khaah kala bagh dam ho ya kuch aur.

Haqeeqat kuch bhi ho,siyasi ya funny,hamein tasleem kerna chahiye k hum koi qom nahiN hein.Na bahesiyat musalman na bahesiyat musalman.Ummat ka dhoka hey kuch bhi nahiN.Jhoot bol bol ker hamari zuban nahiN thakti.Ab ya to piyasey maro ya America sey kaho Pakistan ko thekey per ley lay.Tabiyat sahi ho jaye gi

gawader-karachi highway was completed last year , I don't know about gawader-punjab highway or if its even being built. aur ager aap haalaat ka jaayeza lain to andaaza hoga ke azaad balochistan ke imkaanat sindhu desh bannay se zyada hain.

goya punjaab k pass port k 2 option hogaye. pahlay sindhu desh bana to gawadar aur agar balochistan alag howa to karachi port hai hi ... aur karachi + MQM already punjab ki god maiN hai.

lagta hai ab kuch kuch samajh mein ayee aap ke. btw, khakam badahan , wat abt pakistan minus punjab. Don't you think all the population burden will be lifted and the country will be more prosperous?

i dont agree with this, balochistan ka halaat ka jaiza laina ka lia u have to about true situation in balochistan, agar balochistan koo alag hoona hoota too abhi tak hoo chuka hoota kyunn nahi hua iss kii bari wajah wahan ki pashtoon abaddi hai, balochistan ka 2 bara fractions haiin aik baloch aur doosra pashtoon, pashtoon ilaqaa muhib-e-watan infact quetta ka aas paas joo ilaqa abad haiin aur even in quetta u find loots pashtoon and brohi.. masla sirf baloch ilaqoon ka hai jahan sardari nizam nafid hai like daira bugti laken woo bhii azad balochistan ka khawab pashtoonoon ka hotaa hua sarminda tabeer nahi kar saktaa..

doosri janib sindhi ilaqaa haiin jiss mai interior sindh mai tasub bhut hai, aur karachi mai bhi aik aisee jamaat hai joo apni gundagardi ka wajah saa sahar per qabza jamai hui hai, yahan sirf aik fraction joo karachi mai hai jamat-e-islami ka woo inn tamam qawatoo ka khilaf barsar-e-paikar hai..infact agar kabhi jang kii soorat-e-haal paida hooti hai too sindh kii qaum parast tehreek bari jaan ka saath uth sakti hai.. just my analysis

saima, haq e khud iradiyat har qaum ka bunyaadi haq hai recognized by the UN. hum kashmirion aur palestinian ke haq e khud iradiyet ki to baat kertay hain lekin jab sindhi aur baloch apanay haq ki baat kertay hain to un ko ghaddar kaha jaata hai. yeh kaisa doghla pan aur munafiqat hai.
btw, balochistan ke sirf sardaar nahi balakay aam aadmi ko bhi andaaza ho gaya hai ke 57 years se un ke saath naa insaafi ki jaa rahi hai. un ko NFC mein se sirf 5% milta hai ab khud batayee ke un 5% se kiya development hogi. sardars r not saying that give all the money to them. Give money to the balochistan govt. so they can spend it on the ppl. But we all know that all the money gets eaten up by th eover-poulated big province to phir balochistan ke liye kiya bachta hai. na orads hain , na electricity, na gas, na phone lines. phir propaganda yeh hota hai ke sardar nahi bannay daiatay...bhai provincial govt. to tum 5% day rahay ho(which is a sangeen mazaaq) phir ilzaam sardaaron pe laga diya. app khud bataye ager kal ko balochistan poorya pakistan ki gas band ker day to humara kiya hoga. un ke ehsaan ko maano aur unhain un ka jayez haq do.

1- kashmeerioon aur palestine koo balochistan aur sindh saa aap hii milaa sakta hai wahan palestine mai aur kashmeer mai najaiz qabza hai aur iss silsala mai aqwamm-e-mutahida kii qarardadaiin unn koo support kartii hai jabka sindh aur balochistan ka case hii change understand?

2-now NFC kii baat hoogaye(i little bit agree with u in this point) too yeh cheezaiin baat cheet saa solve hoosakti haiin, poori dunya mai provinces ka darmiin ikhtalfaat hoota hai unn koo bhtaat kar solve kia jata hai..

3- jahan tak sardaroon kii baat hoogayee too i dont agree with u,goverment aik project kar rahi thi balochistan mai pichlaa dinoo balochistan jiss mai modern communication systems provide karna tha inn ilaqoo mai too joo engineers system installations ka lia gaya balochistan mai unn sa mere baat hui too woo kehna laga ka balochistan mai sab saa asan kaam karna pashtoon ilaqoon mai hai wahan aap koo development projects bhi hooraha hai, however difficulty wahan aati jab koi baloch ilaqaa mai kaam karna perta hai wahan site preparation saa kar instalation tak we have to face lot of difficulty even some areas we are not allowed to do work aur woo sites abhi tak ruki hui hai because wahan ka sardar razi nahi hai.. balochistan mai inn recent years kafi kaam hua hai, education sector sa la kar devepment tak..

poori dunya mein all provinces r considered equal. The bigger provinces don't do dhons and dhaandli with the smaller one. General musharraf made lt. general abdul qadir baloch the governer of balochistan but the punjabi bureacracy didn't like him and he was forced to resign and owais ghani(who is frm NWFP) was appointed the new governer. jamali pakistani ki taareekh mein pehla baloch prime minister aaya bechara seedha saadha aadmi tha lekin woh bhi punjab ke chauhadrion ko hazam nahi aur uss ke khilaaf saazishain ker ke usay bhi hatwa diya. provinces mein ikhtilaafaat jab door ho saktay hain whne all provinces respect each others' rights and consider each other equal. When the bigger province thinks that the smaller ones are its colonies and it can do whatever it wants without asking them, then thats not good for the country.

aap ne kabhi yeh socha ke establishment ne mazhabi jamaaton ko sindh,NWFP,aur balochistan per musallat kernay ki poori koshish ki aur kisi had tek kaamyaab bhi huaya lekin punjab mein jamaat aur doosri mazhabi parties ko 1,2 se zyada seats nahin jeetnay dee jaateen. Iss ki kiya wajah hai? sipah sahab jhang-based(punjab-based) party hai aur un ki membership bhi zyada ter punjab mein hai lekin shia sunni killings, karachi aur quetta, jahan shia sunni ka maslaa hi nahi wahaan hoti hain.
afgahn refugess aaye to un sub ko peshawer, quetta, aur karachi bhaij diya. chalain quetta aur peshawer to border se qareeb hai lekin karachi afgahn border ke zyada qareb hai ya lahore?
aur bhi bohat si baatein hain jin se aap ko andaaza ho jaye ga there r different standards for punajb and smaller provinces.

yeh province should given equal rites but how? the solution of this problem is very simple ka fedration koo mazboot banaya jaye..aur aisee parties koo support kia jaye country level kii aur unn jamatoon koo jinn ka nazarya quomiat kii bunyad per na hoo.. so jab woo iktadaar mai ayeen gii aur aik khaas arsa mai woo yeh problems solve kar laiin gii laken fauj naa hamesha beech mai akar process koo roka hai agar abhi mustaqilaan jamhoriat chal rahi hooti pakistan too problem nahi hoota.. so keep the army away from politics u get the results



mai mazhabhi jamataiin inn koo nahi kahoo gii yeh kissi khaas sect koo represent karti hain aur stablishment naa aisee hii QUOM PARASTOON KOO BHI SUPPORT KAR KA UNN KOO SINDH SPEACILLY KARACHI PER MUSALAAT KAR DIA, MQM waghira jaisee jamataiin jamat ka against hii laiin gayeen taka karachi mai , jitna qatal-o-aam shia sunioon mai nahi hua hooga jitna inn qoum parastoo na kar dia if u have statics than u can easily analyze that who is more dangerous

masla phir bhi hal nahi hoga. lets suppose PML ki hukoomat aati hai jo ke eik national party lekin their vote bank is mainly in punjab to zaahir hai woh punjab ko favor karay gi. haan peoples party waaqai eik national party hai that has substantial votebank in all provinces lekin we all know how corrupt they are may be if they change their leadership and have more middle class faces they might become the right party for pakistan. I think the soultion is to resolve bigger provinces into smaller ones and have like 10,15 provinces. jab sub province hi chotay hongay then their will b no sense of victimization at the hands of the bigger prvince.
another very important thing is to imposing urdu langauge on the native people of pakistan and let them learn their own regional languages. The TV and media should promote cultures of all four provinces instead of promoting just karachi and lahore culture.

sorry i meant stop imposing urdu upon them and promote the native tongues.

aur saima, MQM bhi punjab ne hi banwai mahajiron aur sindhion ko aapas mein larwanay ke liye, why don't they let MQM open their sectors in multan where 65% of the population is mahajir?

For Khan_amer & others:

raat ARY par rasool bukhsh paleju kah rahay thay k:

1. 1945 maiN sindh aur punjab k darmayan pani par aik agreement howa tha jiss say punjaab mokar haya.

2. jab mangla dam bana ya jaraha tha to kaha gaya tha k yeh aik "evelopment dam" hoga, "gricultural dam" naheeN magar baad maiN iss dam say nahraiN nikaal kar punjab ki zameenaiN abaad ki gayeeN. punjab nay yeh bhi wadah khelafi ki.

3. in sabeqah wadah khelafiyouN k record k peshay nazar hum kala bagh dam par punjab ki yaqeen dahaniyouN par kaisay yaqeen kar laiN k iss k zariyeh woh sindh ka woh pani bhi istemaal nahee kar lega jissay iss waqt sindh peenay k liyeh use kar raha hai. phir 3 cror "indhi" piyasay marjayengay.

plz in sawalaat ka to-the-point jawab dia jaye. jazbati jawab naheeN.

Sindh-taas agreement kay ba'ad 1945 walay agreement ki kiya hasiyat reh gayee thee iss kay baray maiN mujhay kuch zyada nahi maloom, meray khayal say woh mansookh ker diya gaya tha!!! kyoN kay 1945 maiN Punjab ko panch darya sairab kertay thay.. per Sindh-taas kay baad sirf 3 darya reh gay thay.. mujhay time lagay ga... let me confirm kay 1945 walay agreement ki qanooni hasiyat kiya reh gayee thee!!! iss kay baad Dam per bhi baat kerna asaan ho jaye ga!!!