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Kuch Yazeed bin Maviya(lanat )per lanat dal lain or sawab hasil kareen..thank
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jin ko takleef ho read kar kay wo.........khar jin ko ho geee means yazeed ki ulad yahan abhi jawab day gee uss kay haq main..akhir ulad hi baap kay haq main boltee hai..hnn na..tu shoro ho jaoon YAZEED ki uladoo..shabash...come on..
khan_amer



Above tehreer shia mazhab key bunyaad hay! yeh aisi sanad jis say koy shia inkaari nahi ho sakta!!!! yahaaN per ju ilfaaz use howay haiN shia kay yahaaN inhaiN muqdas ya aisay kisi mai'nooN maiN liya jata hay!!!

Meri Section MODS say pur.zor apeal hay kay woh iss tehreer ko pin ker daiN, aur qat'an qat'an delete na karaiN,

yeh tehreer un naqab posh Shia members kay sehar ko bhi khatam ker day gee ju pyar, muhabat aur akhoowat ki bataiN kertay nahi thaktay!!! issi liya iss post ko hargiz hargiz delete na kiya jaye.


Daylight
Typical shia language with the words like haraamzaada, aur ye saahib chalay hain islam ki tabligh kerne jisne gaali dene ko hi aik intehayi buri cheez bataya hai........

Baki iss gaali ki zadd mein Hazrat Muaviyah(RA) aur unki wife aatay hain wo Moderators ko notice lena chaahiye ke Sahaba(RA) ko aisi gandi gaaliyan dene waalay ko forum par rehna chaahiye ya nahin........AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME KE ANGELEYEZ NE AISI GANDI GAALIYAN ISLAM SECTION MEIN LIKHI HON.


Kuch loag kaafi phhooltay hain ke agar Hazrat Hussain(RA) ka iqdaam khalifa ke khilaaf kharooj tha to Muaviyah(RA) aur Hazrat Ayesha(RA) ne Hazrat Ali(RA) ke khilaaf jo jang ki thi wo kya thi.........

The answer is very simple laikin agar koi sochay tab, laikin taqleed ki andhi patti se kuch nazar nahin aaya kerta...........

Hazrat Hussain(RA) ne jab yazeed ke khilaaf iqdaam kya to uss wakt saari ummat uski khilafat par muttafiq ho chuki thi yahan tak ke hazrat hussain(RA) ke apnay 11 bhai iss kharooj mein shamil na thay aur bait ker chukay thay........balkeh tareekh tabri ke hi mutabik hazrat Hussain(RA) bhi 53 hijri mein yazeed ki wali ehdi ki bait ker chukay thay......

Now see the Sahabas(RA)........Almost 300 Sahabas alive at that time did the bait of yazeed and didnt took part in the kharooj.....And how many were there in the kharooj?? Now easily one can see that there was an almost ijma of Sahabas on the bait.

Phir tamam mumalik aur shehar ke loag iss bait par muttafiq thay, sirf koofay ke logon ko kuch aitraz tha aur chand aur loag............bus........Yani poori ummat mein se sirf chand loag mukhalif thay........

Iss se sabit hota hai ke ye kharooj aik aisay shakhs ke khilaaf tha jisko saari ummat khalifa maan chuki thi.........


Ab doosra case dekhein k kya Ali(RA) ki hakumat bhi aisi hi thi?? Hazrat Usman(RA) ke qaatil sharpasandon ne Usman(RA) ke qatal ke baad jaa ke hazrat Ali(RA) ki bait ker li...........Hazrat Ali(RA) ki bait mein unkay chand saathiyun ke ilawa baqi sab wo loag shaamil thay jo sharpasand thay aur Hazrat Usman(RA) ke qatal mein shaamil thay.......

Ab Sahaba(RA) ka amal dekhein........Beshumaar Sahaba(RA) ne Hazrat Ameer Muaviyah(RA) ka saath diya..........Beshumaar Hazrat Ayesha(RA) ki fauj mein shaamil huway aur beshumaar Sahaba(RA) madina mein ghair jaanib daar ban k rahay yani n a to bait ki Hazrat Ali(RA) ki aur na hi jang mein hissa liya.........Sharpasando ki aik party ka jo khalifa e wakt ke qaatil bhi hon hazrat Ali(RA) ka bait ker lena kaise saari ummat ka muttafiq ho jaana qarar paa sakta hai??.....Aur Hazrat Ali(RA) se unn sharpasando ke liye insaf ki awaz uthana kaise kisi khalifa ke khilaf jang ho sakti hai............Khalifa wo hota hai jis par saari ummat ya kam az kam ummat ki aksarriyat hi muttafiq ho........Laikin aap tareekh uthao aur dekho ke hazrat Ali(RA) ki hakumat aahista aahista simat kar sirf aik shehar tak mehdood ho gayi thi aur unki jang e jumal ke wakt khilafat ka sawal paida hi nahin hota kyunke chand sharpasandon ki bait se koi khalifa nahin qarar paa sakta............Wesay kuch logon ke liye ye aik nayi baat bhi ho k jo loag inn jangon mein hazrat Ali(RA) ki party mein shaamil thay unn mein se hi kuch afraad Hazrat Hussain(RA) ke qatal mein bhi shaamil thay.........issi se andaza laga lein k wo sirf sharpasand thay jinho ne apni jaan bachanay ke liye hazrat Ali(RA) ki bait ki aur baki ummat bait se dooor rahi........

jahan jahan bhi jaain aur tareekh dekhein Sahaba(RA) ka ijmaa hamesha shias ke aqeedon aur jazbaat ke khilaaf hi hua hai..........khaw wo khilafat ka maamla ho, khaw wo siffain ka maamla ho ya khaw wo karbala ka maamla ho............Issi liye to bechaaray apni ghalti maan-ne ki bajaye Sahaba(RA) ko gaaliyan de kar apni aag bhujatay rehtay hain aur apnay jalay pe marham laganay ki oshish kertay hain smile.gif

Daylight
Phir jang e siffain ka hi aik wakaya tareekh mein iss tarha hai k jab Quran par faisla lene ke liye Quran ko maidan mein laaya gaya to Hazrat Ali(RA) k sathiyun ne kaha k hum iss par faisla qabool kertay hain jabke hazrat ALi(RA) ka khayal tha ke nahin jang jaari rakhni chaahiye.......iskay jawab mein hazrat Ali(RA) ke saathiyun ka bayaan tareekh mein iss tarha aya hai "Ali ya tu hamari baat maan le nahin to tera bi wo hashar karain gay jaisa humne usman ka kya".............Hazrat Ali(RA) ne ye sunn ker unki baat maan li aur agli kamaan ko hukam diya ke jang roak do, jawab mein commander ne kaha ke nahin hum jeet saktay hain hum jang nahin rokain gay, iss par yahan ke sathiyun ne jab dekha k jang nahin ruki to unhon ne dobara ALi(RA) ko ilzam diya ke ye teri sazish hai aur tu ne jaan bhooj ker commander ko jang n a rokne ka kaha hai,iss liye ab ya to jang roak nahin to hum tujhay maazool ker dein gay.........ye sun kar Hazrat Ali(RA) ne khud jaa ker jang rukwayi.......

Iss wakaya ko ghaour se parhain aur dekhein ke Hazrat Ali(RA) ki unn sharpasandon mein kya haisiyyat thi..........Aik Khalifa aisa hota hai?? Uskay sathi usske saamne ussay qatal kerne ki dhamkiyan dein aur maazool kerne ki dhamki dein aur usman(RA) ke qaatil honay ka aitraf karain aur wo khamosh rahay.........Tareekh se ye baat pata chalna bay-hudh mushkil hai ke Hazrat ALi(RA) ko aisi kya majbori thi ke wo unn chand sharpasandon ke haath mein khilano banay rahay..........ye khilafat nahin mazloomiyat thi unki.........Aur yahan se ye bhi saaf hota hai ke hazrat Usman(RA) ke qatil hi thay jinho ne hazrat Ali(RA) ki bait ki thi aur jang mein hissa liya tha lehaza aisay sharpasandon ke khaatmay ke liye alam buland kerna kya bura tha.........


khan_amer
QUOTE(Daylight @ Mar 3 2006, 02:48 AM) [snapback]2125073[/snapback]

Phir jang e siffain ka hi aik wakaya tareekh mein iss tarha hai k jab Quran par faisla lene ke liye Quran ko maidan mein laaya gaya to Hazrat Ali(RA) k sathiyun ne kaha k hum iss par faisla qabool kertay hain jabke hazrat ALi(RA) ka khayal tha ke nahin jang jaari rakhni chaahiye.......iskay jawab mein hazrat Ali(RA) ke saathiyun ka bayaan tareekh mein iss tarha aya hai "Ali ya tu hamari baat maan le nahin to tera bi wo hashar karain gay jaisa humne usman ka kya".............Hazrat Ali(RA) ne ye sunn ker unki baat maan li aur agli kamaan ko hukam diya ke jang roak do, jawab mein commander ne kaha ke nahin hum jeet saktay hain hum jang nahin rokain gay, iss par yahan ke sathiyun ne jab dekha k jang nahin ruki to unhon ne dobara ALi(RA) ko ilzam diya ke ye teri sazish hai aur tu ne jaan bhooj ker commander ko jang n a rokne ka kaha hai,iss liye ab ya to jang roak nahin to hum tujhay maazool ker dein gay.........ye sun kar Hazrat Ali(RA) ne khud jaa ker jang rukwayi.......

Iss wakaya ko ghaour se parhain aur dekhein ke Hazrat Ali(RA) ki unn sharpasandon mein kya haisiyyat thi..........Aik Khalifa aisa hota hai?? Uskay sathi usske saamne ussay qatal kerne ki dhamkiyan dein aur maazool kerne ki dhamki dein aur usman(RA) ke qaatil honay ka aitraf karain aur wo khamosh rahay.........Tareekh se ye baat pata chalna bay-hudh mushkil hai ke Hazrat ALi(RA) ko aisi kya majbori thi ke wo unn chand sharpasandon ke haath mein khilano banay rahay..........ye khilafat nahin mazloomiyat thi unki.........Aur yahan se ye bhi saaf hota hai ke hazrat Usman(RA) ke qatil hi thay jinho ne hazrat Ali(RA) ki bait ki thi aur jang mein hissa liya tha lehaza aisay sharpasandon ke khaatmay ke liye alam buland kerna kya bura tha.........



yeh silsila yahaaN tak hi nahi rukta Daylight bhai!~!!


in kay baqi kay imam bhi issi tarah kay baybas.o.lachar thay!!! Imam Askari (RA) ko inhooN nay imaamat say mazool ker diya smile.gif Imam Mosa Kazim (RA) ko iss liya qatal kernay kay darpay hogay aur baad.azaaN zehr.peenay per majboor ker diya kay unhooN nay Mamoon.ur.rashid ki wali ahdi qabool ker lee thee.. aur tu aur, shayad inhi ka dawa hay kay Imam Mehdi kay Zahoor kay baad pehli jung maiN un kay saathiyooN ki tadaad 313 hi hogi.. jis shia aalim nay mujh say yeh baat kahee thee maiN nay uss say jhuT say pocha tu yeh lakhooN ki tada maiN shia kahaaN jayaiN gay!!! iss per woh baghlaiN hi jhankta reh gaya!!!!




per like said earlier in this post.. AE ki post delete ya modify nahi honi chahiyee, taakay yeh log ju muhabat aur unity ka niqaab lay ker bar bar aajatay haiN aur Quran ko apni mazhab ki base batatay nahi thaktay ( ab pata nahi koun sa quran murad hota hay) un ka fraud mazeed na chal sakay
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Above tehreer shia mazhab key bunyaad hay! yeh aisi sanad jis say koy shia inkaari nahi ho sakta!!!! yahaaN per ju ilfaaz use howay haiN shia kay yahaaN inhaiN muqdas ya aisay kisi mai'nooN maiN liya jata hay!!!

Meri Section MODS say pur.zor apeal hay kay woh iss tehreer ko pin ker daiN, aur qat'an qat'an delete na karaiN,

yeh tehreer un naqab posh Shia members kay sehar ko bhi khatam ker day gee ju pyar, muhabat aur akhoowat ki bataiN kertay nahi thaktay!!! issi liya iss post ko hargiz hargiz delete na kiya jaye.





Khan khabr daar jhoot bola to..... itni takleef akhir kyun hoi yazeed (lanti) ke barey mein yeh sab sun kar... Agar yazeed ke naam par koi muhabbat ka akhowat ka dars deta hai to woh shia nahi ho sakta. Hum openly Yazeed ko lanti, sharabi aur jitni buraiyaan dunia mein majood hain openly uss ke zimmey lagatey hain..lehaza dnt confuse common ppl.. theek hai na?

yazeed ke manney walo ke saath na hi hamara koi itthaad qaim ho sakta hai na hi humey un se muhabbat ho sakti hai...Hum to sunni bhaiyon ko mukhatib they, jo hamari tarah yazeed ko lanti aur sharabi manti hai, aur uss ko muslim kehney waley ko b ..............

lihaza iss topic ko pin kar do beshak, takey pata chaley logo ko ke yazeed lanti ka shjra kya tha, hasb nasl kya tha.

ber yazeed ibne mauvia lanat beshamaaaaaaaaaaar

Yaad rahey lanat quranic word hai..iss par aitraaz nahi hona chahye
khan_amer
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Khan khabr daar jhoot bola to



Ikhlaqiyaat ki qaba tu app say bhi uter tee ja rahi hay janab!!!


post ko ghor say PaRhaiN Hazrat Ameer-e-Moavia (RZA) ko bhi buhatkuch kaha hay app kay mazhab maiN... basically abhi tak app aur app kay hamnawa jhooT boltay aur baichtay aye thay akhowat aur muhabat ki paRda dari maiN.. per ab apnay mazhab ki basics ( yani Shaba KO galiyan dayna) per aa chukay haiN.


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yazeed ke manney walo ke saath na hi hamara koi itthaad qaim ho sakta hai na hi humey un se muhabbat ho sakti hai...Hum to sunni bhaiyon ko mukhatib they, jo hamari tarah yazeed ko lanti aur sharabi manti hai, aur uss ko muslim kehney waley ko b ..............


woh shia hi kiya ju jhooT aur Takiya ka sahara na lay!!! smile.gif Iraq maiN Bush kay saath app ka Ittehad, Afghanistan maiN Bush kay saath app ka ittehad... Iran maiN DRamay baziyaaN ( ab tu irani khud tang aagay haiN aur Shah kay waqt ko yaad kertay haiN) aur kehtay haiN hum yazeed say ittehad nahi kertay.. Ghaliban aap kehna chah rahay haiN kay hum her uss shakhsiyat kay khilaf haiN ju hamay hakomat say bahir rakhay!!!:)
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kkj2

khan aur muslim

aap se arz hai, ke yahan baat yazeed ki ho rahi hai, sahaba ki nahi..althought ameer mauvia ka bi zikr aya hai, lakin woh baitey ke satah baap ka zkir to aye ga hi.

aap pehley yazeed par to lanat karein..baqi baat baad mein hoti hai..khan aru muslim do ke liye arz hai.
khan_amer
QUOTE(kkj2 @ Mar 3 2006, 08:16 PM) [snapback]2125269[/snapback]

khan aur muslim

aap se arz hai, ke yahan baat yazeed ki ho rahi hai, sahaba ki nahi..althought ameer mauvia ka bi zikr aya hai, lakin woh baitey ke satah baap ka zkir to aye ga hi.

aap pehley yazeed par to lanat karein..baqi baat baad mein hoti hai..khan aru muslim do ke liye arz hai.



app kay kehnay ka matlub hay kay SHIA sahaba per tabra nahi kertay?
ya app yeh kehna chah rahay haiN kay agr Hazrat Mouavia (RZA) key toheen ju kay app kay na.paak mazhab ka hisa hay ja'yez hay?

dono sawalooN ka jawab YES/NO maiN daiN..


atleast yahaaN tu ayaiN bayaiN shayaiN na key jiye ga!!! atleast once in ur life time apna mazhab khul ker zahir karaiN, aakhir iss maiN aisa kiya hay ju app zahir kernay say sharmatay haiN???

kkj2
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Mar 3 2006, 05:24 PM) [snapback]2125272[/snapback]

app kay kehnay ka matlub hay kay SHIA sahaba per tabra nahi kertay?
ya app yeh kehna chah rahay haiN kay agr Hazrat Mouavia (RZA) key toheen ju kay app kay na.paak mazhab ka hisa hay ja'yez hay?

dono sawalooN ka jawab YES/NO maiN daiN..
atleast yahaaN tu ayaiN bayaiN shayaiN na key jiye ga!!! atleast once in ur life time apna mazhab khul ker zahir karaiN, aakhir iss maiN aisa kiya hay ju app zahir kernay say sharmatay haiN???



khan saahib dekhein, mazhaab aap apna kab se chupa rahey hain, hum to openly biyaan kartey hain..aap ne aab tak khul kar nahi bataya..ke kis fiqgh se talouk hai aap ka..yazeed (laeen) ka kya muqaam hai aap ke nazdeek.

jee to raha aap ke sawalon ka talouq..pehli baat to yeh hai, ke shia mazhab pak hain..inshallah aap apni farma lein gey..

dosri baat ham har uss par tabbara kartey hain balkey allah b karta hai, jo Muhammed-o-Al-e-Muhammed (sa.ww) ka dushman ho..uss mein koi sahabi b shamil ho to hamara kya qasoor.. i hope ke mein ne aap ko khul akr bata diya hai ke..hum har uss shakhs par lanat (yaad rahey ke lanat quranic word hai) kartey hain, Jo Nabi (sa.ww) aru al-e-nabi (sa.ww) ka dushman hai..baqi aap samjhdaar hain... smile.gif
*RAJA*
post iss close............................................................. abhi khna kha loun baad main baat ho ghi... a191.gif
*RAJA*
baat yeh hai............................
abhi msn par aik bandey say baat ho rehi thi...so wu banda dekh lay khod main nay bola betay ko ju marzi bolo but baap par na joooo.......
jab baat baap par jayeh ghai .. tu bohat daor tak jayeh ghi...................
or sub ko pata hai kis ksi kay waldeen musalman bhi thay keh nehi.............?
plz
waldeen par na jain.... tu behter ho gha a191.gif
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baat yeh hai............................
abhi msn par aik bandey say baat ho rehi thi...so wu banda dekh lay khod main nay bola betay ko ju marzi bolo but baap par na joooo.......
jab baat baap par jayeh ghai .. tu bohat daor tak jayeh ghi...................
or sub ko pata hai kis ksi kay waldeen musalman bhi thay keh nehi.............?
plz
waldeen par na jain.... tu behter ho gha a191.gif



jinaab, baat yeh hai ke Jab Moula Ali (a.s) ya Hazoor (saww) ki baat ati hai to tab bhi walidain par na jaya karo? Pak paghambar (sa.ww) aur Pak Imam (a.s) ke barey mein loug kafi hadh tak keh detey hain.. Yazeed to phir lanti aur badhmaash tha..
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jinaab, baat yeh hai ke Jab Moula Ali (a.s) ya Hazoor (saww) ki baat ati hai to tab bhi walidain par na jaya karo? Pak paghambar (sa.ww) aur Pak Imam (a.s) ke barey mein loug kafi hadh tak keh detey hain.. Yazeed to phir lanti aur badhmaash tha..

but yazeed ka baap R:A katib wuhi tha.............(eh lay sunaat kay mutabik).......
aab oss kay baap nay kis say lari kis say nehi jab keh kisi kay bhai tak nay bhai ka sath nehi ..( jab keh wu nabina they..its mean kisi qabil nehi... but bhai ko chor diya kiay aap oss par bhi tabra karin ghain..........................................)diya tha.......
ZAZEED KO JU MARZI KAHO...................... BUT OSS KAY ILWA KOCH NEHI .MEAN SHBAH PAR............................BAAT KHATAM....................

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QUOTE(Muslim2 @ Mar 3 2006, 10:10 PM) [snapback]2125268[/snapback]

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hahhahahahahhahaha


this is wht u guyz always quote........

without reading ur own text

whr it is written tht on the death of hazrat hamza (ra) .. huzoor (s) gathered muslims to mourn over his death

hazrat ayesha.... Mother of believers.. n a/c to u we called her names (naozobillah) also mourn over the death of Prophet.(pbuh)

so plz.. if u r REAL MUSLIM n not just a nick muslim

read ur own books

for SABA....... who is he???? is he HE or SHE??????? hahahahha

i dont know kasam say... woh bhi u ki kasam :clapping3
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khan_amer
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khan saahib dekhein, mazhaab aap apna kab se chupa rahey hain, hum to openly biyaan kartey hain..aap ne aab tak khul kar nahi bataya..ke kis fiqgh se talouk hai aap ka..yazeed (laeen) ka kya muqaam hai aap ke nazdeek.


herat bilkul bhi nahi howi iss para per!!! maiN iss forum 5/6 saal say hooN aur issi Islam section maiN hota hooN, per app log, bariyaaN badltay rehtay haiN iss liya her anay walay yehi sawal pochta hay!!! smile.gif
First iam Muslim by birth ( Al-hamdullilah ), mera Maylaan, Ahl-e-Sunnat wa'l jammat kay sath hay! per Allah ka shuker hay us snay mujhay deen ko samjhnay ki koshish kernay ki tofeeq ata farmayee, ( ab tu app ko clear ho gaya hay ya mazeed details required haiN)
Yazeed Bin Moavia (RZA), MuslmaanooN ka Khalifa tha, jis ki bait per tanaza tu howa tha per Ameer-e-Moavia nay apni zindagee maiN hi iss tanazay ko hal ker liya tha! Sirf app ki itla'a kay liya arz kerta chalooN kay tanaza yeh nahi tha kay Yazeed iss qabil hay kay nahi tanazay ( ghaliban baqool Abdullah bin Umer (RZAA)) apnay baiTay ko Khalifa namzad ker kay sirf eak hi khandan maiN Khilafat rakhnay ka tha, ( iam skipping details)
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jee to raha aap ke sawalon ka talouq..pehli baat to yeh hai, ke shia mazhab pak hain..inshallah aap apni farma lein gey..




Shiyaat aur iss ki branches kay illawa koy bhi zamin ya Ilhami mazhab batayaiN jis maiN uss mazhab kay baniyooN ko galiyooN say nawaza jata hay!!! zyada nahi sirf eak example chahiyee!!!

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dosri baat ham har uss par tabbara kartey hain balkey allah b karta hai, jo Muhammed-o-Al-e-Muhammed (sa.ww) ka dushman ho..uss mein koi sahabi b shamil ho to hamara kya qasoor.. i hope ke mein ne aap ko khul akr bata diya hai ke..hum har uss shakhs par lanat (yaad rahey ke lanat quranic word hai) kartey hain, Jo Nabi (sa.ww) aru al-e-nabi (sa.ww) ka dushman hai..baqi aap samjhdaar hain... smile.gif



bhai Atleast Allah per tu buhtaan na bando smile.gif, Allah ta'al Buhat say aisay kam kerta hay ju app nahi ker saktay!!! ham ( Muslmanoo) ko Allah tala nay kuch ahkamaat diya haiN ( yani kernay kay kaam diya haiN) aur un maiN apni naqaili ka ahkaan aaj tak meri nazr say nahi guzra, bulkay Sura hujraat maiN aam insaan ko bhi gali galooch/buray namooN say pukarnay say mana kiya hay: Kiya app walay quran maiN woh ayat mojood hay? tu kiya app ka mazhab kay mo'ajideen per koy nayee ayaat nazil howeeN theeN jin maiN tabra kernay kay ahkamaat khas tor per diya gay thay!!!


Asal baat yeh kay jis nay bhi Shia mazhab ijaad kiya hay woh, iss mazhab ko bunyaadi Islam say door buhat door rakhna chahta tha! iss kay liya behtreen tariqa yeh tha kay source of Information ko pollute ker diya jaye, takay koy tazabub ka shikaar ho jayaiN, aur phir uss tazbub maiN unhaiN nut nayee rahaiN dekhla'i jayaiN, chooN kay deen-e-shiyat koy asmaani deen nahi hay iss maiN buhat say ibhaam paye jatay haiN ( unlike Islam) masalan Shia kehtay haiN kay Hazrat Imam Hussain (RZA) nay qurbani day ker deen ko bacha liya ( yahaaN per maiN yeh bilkul bhi nahi keh raha kay eisa'ee kehtay haiN kay Hazrat Maseeh nay qurbani day ker insanooN ko bacha liya), agr un ki iss baat ko sach maan liya jaye tu yeh din yani 10 muharram ka din tu eid ka din hona chahiyee, App (RZA) say aqeeadt rakhnay walooN ko tu iss din fakher kerna chahiyee kay un ki wajah say deen qayam hay, per yahaaN tu iss tarah matam hota hay kay lagta yehi hay kay inhaiN iss baat per dukh hay kay deen ko kyoN bachaya gaya smile.gif !!!

kkj2
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herat bilkul bhi nahi howi iss para per!!! maiN iss forum 5/6 saal say hooN aur issi Islam section maiN hota hooN, per app log, bariyaaN badltay rehtay haiN iss liya her anay walay yehi sawal pochta hay!!! smile.gif




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First iam Muslim by birth ( Al-hamdullilah ), mera Maylaan, Ahl-e-Sunnat wa'l jammat kay sath hay! per Allah ka shuker hay us snay mujhay deen ko samjhnay ki koshish kernay ki tofeeq ata farmayee, ( ab tu app ko clear ho gaya hay ya mazeed details required haiN)



Mashallah se har bacha paida muslim hi hota hai, agar Nabi-e-Rahmat (sa.ww) ka farmaan zehn mein ho ke "har bacha fitrat-e-islam par paida hota hai, lakin uss ke maa baap ussey yahoodi, majoosi ya esai bana detey hain". aur i am sure you would agree ke mera pochney ka maqsad hadees ka Second part hai.

Ahle-sunnat mein to bahut si iqsaam payi jati hain aap koun si kisam ho, main-stream sunni ya..?

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Yazeed Bin Moavia (RZA), MuslmaanooN ka Khalifa tha, jis ki bait per tanaza tu howa tha per Ameer-e-Moavia nay apni zindagee maiN hi iss tanazay ko hal ker liya tha! Sirf app ki itla'a kay liya arz kerta chalooN kay tanaza yeh nahi tha kay Yazeed iss qabil hay kay nahi tanazay ( ghaliban baqool Abdullah bin Umer (RZAA)) apnay baiTay ko Khalifa namzad ker kay sirf eak hi khandan maiN Khilafat rakhnay ka tha, ( iam skipping details)



with sorry, main-stream sunni yazzed ka na hi muslim mantey hain nahi khalifa, haan yazeedi nasl aur uss ke follower ka manna kuch aur hai, jo ahl-e-Islam ke liye koi ehmiyat nahi rakhta smile.gif

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[color=#3366FF]Shiyaat aur iss ki branches kay illawa koy bhi zamin ya Ilhami mazhab batayaiN jis maiN uss mazhab kay baniyooN ko galiyooN say nawaza jata hay!!! zyada nahi sirf eak example chahiyee
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baaniyoon se muraad some hypocrite sahaba hain to I am sorry they are not baani of Islam. Islam Heavenly religion hai Jis ka baani khud Allah hai, Aur 1 lakh 24 hazaar anbiya ke through logo tak pohncha hai. Islam ke baaniyon mein koi ghiar-e-masoom shamil nahi hai..aur ghair-e-masoom tankeed se bari b nahi..uss ki har ghalti par roka bhi jaye ga aur toka bhi jaye ga.


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bhai Atleast Allah per tu buhtaan na bando smile.gif, Allah ta'al Buhat say aisay kam kerta hay ju app nahi ker saktay!!! ham ( Muslmanoo) ko Allah tala nay kuch ahkamaat diya haiN ( yani kernay kay kaam diya haiN) aur un maiN apni naqaili ka ahkaan aaj tak meri nazr say nahi guzra, bulkay Sura hujraat maiN aam insaan ko bhi gali galooch/buray namooN say pukarnay say mana kiya hay: Kiya app walay quran maiN woh ayat mojood hay? tu kiya app ka mazhab kay mo'ajideen per koy nayee ayaat nazil howeeN theeN jin maiN tabra kernay kay ahkamaat khas tor per diya gay thay!!!



Jumlay to aap ne barey kassey hain, lakin isi khiyal ke saath darhguzar kar rahey hain ke HC intazamiya koi action to le gi nahi, ACTION sirf o sirf SHIA members ke liye hai smile.gif.. farq sirf itna hai ke aap ne baat ko MITHI CHURRI ANDAZ mein paish ki, jis ko in other word hypocritical manners kehtey hain, aur shia's HAQ baat open words mein biyaan kar detey hain jis ki wajah se unn ko BLOCK kar diya jata hai, uss ki misaal hum ne ghuzashta dino dekhi hai:)

Khair aap ne baat ki Allah par buhtaan bandaney ki..Lanat uss par jis ne aisa kiya:) aap ne baat ki ke aam admi ko bhi gaali ghloch nahi deni chahye..theek hai, Agar bey-kasoor kisi ko bura bhala kahey phir to theek warna... Allah ne to zalimeen par kafireen par saaf alfaz mein lanat ki hai. (baqoul aap ke gaali dee nouzbillah), so merey bhai Quran ka sirf ek hissa nahi letey, balkey pura ka pura quran ko parnha, samjhna aur manna hai.smile.gif


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Asal baat yeh kay jis nay bhi Shia mazhab ijaad kiya hay woh, iss mazhab ko bunyaadi Islam say door buhat door rakhna chahta tha! iss kay liya behtreen tariqa yeh tha kay source of Information ko pollute ker diya jaye, takay koy tazabub ka shikaar ho jayaiN, aur phir uss tazbub maiN unhaiN nut nayee rahaiN dekhla'i jayaiN, chooN kay deen-e-shiyat koy asmaani deen nahi hay iss maiN buhat say ibhaam paye jatay haiN ( unlike Islam)



Jee Islam to allah ki taraf se behja gaya deen hai, jisko Rasool Allah (saww) ne ponchaya, aur baar baar apney sahaba (rz) ko takeed ki ke dekho Ali (a.s) ki raah par chalna, aur Ali (a.s) ko barha inform kiy ake, Ya Ali (a.s) aap aur aap ke shia hi kambyaab hain.. So shia mazhab to Rasool Allah (sa.ww) ki ijaad hai, Jo hai asal islam.aab aap ka kehna achi tarah samjh aa sakta hai:)



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masalan Shia kehtay haiN kay Hazrat Imam Hussain (RZA) nay qurbani day ker deen ko bacha liya ( yahaaN per maiN yeh bilkul bhi nahi keh raha kay eisa'ee kehtay haiN kay Hazrat Maseeh nay qurbani day ker insanooN ko bacha liya), agr un ki iss baat ko sach maan liya jaye tu yeh din yani 10 muharram ka din tu eid ka din hona chahiyee, App (RZA) say aqeeadt rakhnay walooN ko tu iss din fakher kerna chahiyee kay un ki wajah say deen qayam hay, per yahaaN tu iss tarah matam hota hay kay lagta yehi hay kay inhaiN iss baat per dukh hay kay deen ko kyoN bachaya gaya smile.gif !!!






Jee haan ghair-e-Shia (Jo Rasool (sa.ww) aur Ali (a.s) ka follower nahi, kyun ke shia kehtey hi un ke followers ko hain) ko yeh baat kabhi samjh nahi aa sakti. yazeedi nasal apney baap ki shikast ko chupaney ke liye tarah tarah ke harbey istimaal kartey aye hain, uni mein sey yehi bhi ek tareeka hai. Eid ke lafzi maani hain wapsi, Beshak Islam Hussain (a.s) ne bachaya, so uss lihaz se 10th muharram ke din Islam WAPIS aa gya, jo ek haqeeqatan fakhr ki baat hai, Lakin mohsin-e-islam, aur shuhda-e-islam ki qurbaniyon ko bhoool jana ek respected qoum ko guwaran nahi deta..Aaj Pakistan mein to sari jangon ke shaheedon ko har saal yaad rakha jata hai, un ke tribute paish kiya jata hai, aur saath Barey baray bashan diye jatey hain ke Zinda Qoumein apney shaheedo ko bulaya nahui karti..Lakin Ajeeb baat hai, Islaam ke mohsin ko khiraaj-e-tehseen paish karney ki bajaye, un par tanqeed ki jati hai jo Apney mohsin se wafadaari kar ke Paak Khon aur pak nasal ka elaan kartey hain....

Weasey ek baat Matam hm kartey hain Dard aap ko hota hai..ajeeb baat hai.

Shabbir (a.s) ke ghorey taley jo loug marrey hain
Mehshar tak woh log Shabir (a.s) ke ghorey ki SHABEEH se darrey hain..

Aur inshalla dartey rahein gey:)

wassalam
Ya Ali Madad (a.s)
Haq-Ali
khan shahib wasay tu kkj2 nay kafi acahy or simple words main jawab diya hai app kay fazool say sawaloon ka..yani jo insan Yazeed(lanat)ko R.Z likh raha hai uss ka iman kya ho ga iss ka fasala hamray yahan suuni bhai kareen gay...khar janay do...Wahabi asay hi kahaty hain yani yazeed(lanat)ko...khar ab suno maray kuch intaheee simple jawab..
1:app nay kaha kah app 5 ya 6 saal say hain etc...or ham bariyan badaltay rahtay hain...
Ans: ham nahi badaltay balkhay BLOCK kar diya jatay hain like...Hazrat umer(r.z)kay doray hakoomat main ikdafa..yar chor baat lambi ho jayee gee ye book Azalat Kulfa,jild1,page177 per hai kudh hi read kar lo..tu same such bolnay walay ka wo hi injam hota hai or hamra bhi...becoz tum such nahi sun saktay..jo tumharee books main hai..ajj tak mujhy ye kissi nay nahi batayea kah akhir tum loog wo books jala kyoon nahi datay etc..jin kay jawab tumahray pass nahi hain????ya un ko maan lo..wo bhi nahi kartay..asal main tum loog kudh Pazzal ho kay kya karoo..khar

2:tum nay kaha kah masal ye nahi tha kah yazeed(lanat bay shoomar)ki hakoomat per inkar is liya howa kah wo kabil nahi tha balkhay hakoomat ikhi kahndan main rahay gee etc..

Ans: hansi ati hai kah jantay howay bhi tum inkar kiya ja rahay ho like a child jis ko paat hota hai kah ..khar..suno pheli baat tu ye kah..yazeed kabil tha ya nahi..tu janab wo tu sweeper lagnay kay bhi qabil nahi tha becoz sweeper bhi ham log wo laaty hain jiss ka kirdar acha ho..or app ki books main hai kah wo Sharbi,Zanakar,or pata nahi kay kuch tha..so ye tu masala haal howa kah wo qabil nahi tha..rahee baat kahdan main rahnay wali or naamzidagee ki tu...simple..ik baat kha Hazrat umer(r.z)bhi naamzid howay tha..yani Hazrat aboo bakar(r.z)nay wasiyat likh di thee etc..jasa kah sab janaty hain tu ye tu koi masala nahi kha naamzidagee per masala bana..samjh aeya good..rahee baat kahndan wali..tu sab batoon say haat kar...baat tu ye bhi sahe thee..kah kay kissi nay thekha diya howa tha kah jasa bhi bora banda ayea kilafat bano-umeya main rahay gee?????wasay bhi Sunni ulma even maviay ki kilafat ko kilafat nahi manaty balkhay kaahty hain kha "phela badshah maviya tha" kahoo tu saboot doon ga tumharee book say..oki or hnn khandan wali baat...hmmmmmmm..yaad ho tu kilfat 1st kay waqat bhi kissi nay ki thee kah "kay zaroori hai kha naboyat or kilafat ik hi kahndan main rahay"...hnn yaad hai na..good

3:shia koi ilhami mazhab nahi hai...

Ans:shia ko tu baad main sabit karna phealy yahan hc per apna sabit karoo..phir main shia mazhab ki bunyad etc tumahree book say sabit karoon ga..oki..or hnn apna mazhab zaroorrrrrrrrr sabit karna ..or agar na kar sakoo tu..chor do...iss mazhab ko jiss ki bunyad ya ilhami honay ka pata nahi hai..oki phir maree bari..promise..

4:tum nay kaha kah gali etc ..

Ans:pheli baat kah alah tabarah kudh karta hai...quran main or sab janaty hain ..magar shart ye hai kah agar Quran read kiya ho..or dosari baat yar agar shia gali(baqool tumharay)datay hain tu maray bhai tum bhi do becoz ye tu sunnat hai shaba ki..ab yahan loog mujhy kaheen gay kah sahaba ki thoohen ki hai etc..no no janab..main nay tu snni book main read kiya hai or ik baray shabi nay tu assi gali di kha..khar janay do..wasay book ka naam hai Azalat Kulfa,jild 2,page 14.....kudh read kar lo takah mujhy jotha na kah sakoo..oki ab main or kay kahoon...

5:phir tum nay shia mazhab ko click kiya kah jiss nay bunyaad rakhee etc....

Ans: jiss nay rakhee uss ko janay do..apni farmaoo...oki phir iss per ana..baat ye hotee hai kah Aqalmand pheali apna difah karta hai tab dosaray per hamla karta hai..tum tu apna difah nahi kar rahay...phelay apna tu kar lo...means apna app sabit karoo...jab kar liya tab haq hai bolnay ka warna wasay hi hc per bharkay na maroo....wo Mouse wala joke tu suna ho ga ..

6:tum nay kah kah 10 muharram ko agar qurbani day kar islam bacha liya etc tu eid manani cheya..

Ans: sahee kaha Eid tu manatay hain na Yazeedi nasal walay..tum mana saktay ho don't worry..oki..or hnn ...jab tumhara koi bara,mehboob jiss ki wajah say tum ajj zinda ho etc..mar jayee or uss din tumhay azadi milay etc kuch bhi..tu kay tum uss din Eid manaoo gay?????????yani jiss din wo mara ho uss din tum Eid manana???????wow great kay baat hai mujhy nahi pata tah kah tum marnay walay din Eid manay kay haq main ho...ham loogtu soog manaty hain beco..unho nay islam tu baacha liya Yazeed jasay paleet insan say..but kudh shaeed ho gayea.....oki
ye tu thay tumharay kuch intahee fazool sawaloon kay jawab...or hnn tum suuni mat kaha karo...balkhay tum apna naam jo bhi hai uss kay sath likh diya karoo..like..
KHAN AMER BIN ....FALAN BIN FALAN..BIN YAZEED..
means kha apna shajrah Yazeeed say milayea karoo..oki good

Raja shahib..tum nay likha hai kah Maviya..katib wahi tha???????wow but tumharee book main hai kah wo katib wahi nahi tha balkhay wo arab or hazoor kay darmiyan letter likhta tha...book..Ashaba ibny Hajar,jild 3 ,page434..ans me raja?????????????
Daylight
Janab e Mann Haq Ali sahib smile.gif Aapne agar tareekhi hawalon se yazeed par baat kerni hai to pehlay se hi aik topic chal raha hai wahan tashreef aavri farmaiye smile.gif

Topic ka naam hai "Another Section On Hulchul"...........usko parhein aur apne points pesh karain smile.gif

Yazeed par whaan pehlay se hi baat chal rahi thi new topic start kerne ki wajah samajh nahin aayi, ya phir shaaid wahan jo discussion ab tak ho chuki hai koi himmat nahin ker raha aanay ki.......Aik alwahab bhai aaye thay wahan, 2 din se unkay reply ka intezar ker raha hon laikin wo online aa ke parh ke chalay jaatay hain.......Allah bhala karay unka, shaaid unhon ne apni baat se rajoo farma liya ho.
khan_amer
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Mashallah se har bacha paida muslim hi hota hai, agar Nabi-e-Rahmat (sa.ww) ka farmaan zehn mein ho ke "har bacha fitrat-e-islam par paida hota hai, lakin uss ke maa baap ussey yahoodi, majoosi ya esai bana detey hain". aur i am sure you would agree ke mera pochney ka maqsad hadees ka Second part hai.

Ahle-sunnat mein to bahut si iqsaam payi jati hain aap koun si kisam ho, main-stream sunni ya..?




lafaazi aur ilm.ul.kalaam maiN Shia apna jawabnahi rakhtay ( aakhir issi liya deen-e-islaam say dor howay:) ) app bhi achi tarah jantay haiN kay mera jawab kiya hay!!! per chooNkay app nay jawab baraye jawab dayna hay issi liya app kay above comments aye...behr.haal app pehlayyeh tu batayaiN shia'ooN key kon c jamaat say taluq rakhtay haiN woh ju HAzrat Ali (RZA) ko khuda mantay haiN,ya woh ju Jabreil (AS) say iss liya nafrat.okadorat rakhtaiN haiN ( like yahood) kay unhooN ghalati say wahi Ali (RZA) kaybajayee Muhammad (SAAW) per utaar dee, ya app un say taluq rakhtay haiN jin ka man'na hay kay shia'ooNkay saray imam eak eak ker kay duniya maiNwapis ayaiN gay,bhai kay tu itnay firqay haiN kitnooN per likhooN infact maiN tu yeh bhi nahi keh sakta kay Main Stream shia... waisay app haiN konsay shia???



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with sorry, main-stream sunni yazzed ka na hi muslim mantey hain nahi khalifa, haan yazeedi nasl aur uss ke follower ka manna kuch aur hai, jo ahl-e-Islam ke liye koi ehmiyat nahi rakhta



with sorry,app main stream sunni kinay kehtay haiN ?ju sunniyat maiN shiyaat ko ghair mehsoos andaaz maiN shamil kertay haiN?ya ju sunni sunaiyee batooN per amal ker kay PHD ki degree hasil ker laytay haiN ( DR Aamir Liaqat) smile.gif







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baaniyoon se muraad some hypocrite sahaba hain to I am sorry they are not baani of Islam. Islam Heavenly religion hai Jis ka baani khud Allah hai, Aur 1 lakh 24 hazaar anbiya ke through logo tak pohncha hai. Islam ke baaniyon mein koi ghiar-e-masoom shamil nahi hai..aur ghair-e-masoom tankeed se bari b nahi..uss ki har ghalti par roka bhi jaye ga aur toka bhi jaye ga.



aur typical shia jawab yani marooN guTna phoTay aankh!!! chalaiN app sawal ka jawab tu nahi day sakay.. ab app yeh hi bata daiNkay MASOOM kon kaisay hoga yeh kaisay pata chalay ga!!! kaheeN app ka taluq uss firqay say tu nahi hay ju kehta hay kay Shia imamooN ki taleem Jibreil (AS) khud kertay haiN..issi liya woh masoom haiN...
waisay app ka jawab hay baRa hi zabardast..kyoN kat Hazrat Ali (AS) say lay ker app kay saray kay saray Imam shia[ooB ki tanqeed aur mazalim ka shikar rahaiN haiN iss say tu yehi sabit howa na kay Shia Imam bhi Masoom nahi thay
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Jee Islam to allah ki taraf se behja gaya deen hai, jisko Rasool Allah (saww) ne ponchaya, aur baar baar apney sahaba (rz) ko takeed ki ke dekho Ali (a.s) ki raah par chalna, aur Ali (a.s) ko barha inform kiy ake, Ya Ali (a.s) aap aur aap ke shia hi kambyaab hain.. So shia mazhab to Rasool Allah (sa.ww) ki ijaad hai, Jo hai asal islam.aab aap ka kehna achi tarah samjh aa sakta hai:)




yahaaN app nay wahi kiya jis ka zikr maiN nay uper kiya tha..!!! yani Jebriel (AS) say ghalati ho gayee thee...per Shia'ooN nay aisi hadeesaiN ghaR leeN jin say Jebriel (AS) say honay wali ghalati kay nuqsaan ki taalfi ki ja sakay...ab Agr Hazrat Ali (RZA) ki rah per hi chalna tha..tu Hazoor (SAAW) ko Nabu;wat daynay ki kiya tuq thee,Hazrat Ali (RZA) ko hi day dee hoti..takay sab directly unhi ka itbaa kertay!!! itni zyada complications hi payda na hooteeN per jaisa kay maiN nay kaha hay kay Shia'ism kay moajid kabhi bhi kamyaab na hotay agr woh ibhaam paida na kerta...yahaaN per yeh bhi wazah kerta chalooN kay eak Muslmaan ibhaam ka shikar nahi hota!!! yeh sift Shia yani munafiqeen key hi hay!!! ab yeh mat kehna kay shia munafiq nahi hotay..jin ka deen kay 9 hisay takiya ho,ju nazriya-e-zaroorat ko deen ki bunyaad TehrayaiN woh agr munafiq nahi tu phir shia hi ho saktay haiN smile.gif



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Jee haan ghair-e-Shia (Jo Rasool (sa.ww) aur Ali (a.s) ka follower nahi, kyun ke shia kehtey hi un ke followers ko hain) ko yeh baat kabhi samjh nahi aa sakti. yazeedi nasal apney baap ki shikast ko chupaney ke liye tarah tarah ke harbey istimaal kartey aye hain, uni mein sey yehi bhi ek tareeka hai.



acha ab yeh bata'oo kay yazeedko shikast kaisay howi woh tu ma'rkay-e-karbala kay baad bhi Khalifa hi raha,aur Imam Zain-ul-abideen nay Yazeed ki bait bhi ker lee!!! ab yeh mat kehna kay Imam nay taqiya kiya tha!!! ya kay Imam ka yeh fail un ka nazriya-e-zaroorat tha,ya kay imam nay Hazrat Hussain (RZA) ki azeem qurbani ( baqool Shia ) ko ghalat sabit kiya tha!!!:)



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Eid ke lafzi maani hain wapsi, Beshak Islam Hussain (a.s) ne bachaya, so uss lihaz se 10th muharram ke din Islam WAPIS aa gya, jo ek haqeeqatan fakhr ki baat hai, Lakin mohsin-e-islam, aur shuhda-e-islam ki qurbaniyon ko bhoool jana ek respected qoum ko guwaran nahi deta..Aaj Pakistan mein to sari jangon ke shaheedon ko har saal yaad rakha jata hai, un ke tribute paish kiya jata hai, aur saath Barey baray bashan diye jatey hain ke Zinda Qoumein apney shaheedo ko bulaya nahui karti..Lakin Ajeeb baat hai, Islaam ke mohsin ko khiraaj-e-tehseen paish karney ki bajaye, un par tanqeed ki jati hai jo Apney mohsin se wafadaari kar ke Paak Khon aur pak nasal ka elaan kartey hain...




oh bhai, maiN bhoolnay ki nahi matam ki baat ker raha hooN... kisi bhi lught maiN matam ka matlub afsoos kerna hota hay app log pehlo muharam say ju rona peeTna Daltay ho tu yeh kis baat ka matam hay..ISlam kay bacha janay !!! QomaiN apnay Hero's kay days kay din matam nahi kertay ( yahood bhi holocaust ka matam kertay haiN aur ISreal kay wajood ki mantaqi tozeeh paish kertay haiN ). Misaal kay tor per August 1947 kay mahinay maiN hazarooN muslmaan sirf jurm-e-islam maiN shaheed ker diya gay...tu kiya ham log bhi rona peeTna Dal laiN.... bhai yeh rona aur nohay kerna kamzoor ya aurtooN ka chaln hota hay...jangjoo ya dalair qomooN ka amal nahi!!! yaad aya kisi Mashoor Shia Sulata ya ameer ka naam tu batayaiN jis nay ISlam kay liyajihaad kiya ho!!! tip dayta chalooN jin dinooN saleebiyooN nay Bait-ul-Muqadas per qabza kiya tha undinooN maiN Fatmeeds Eygpt kay hukumaraaN thay...( meray khayal say fatmeed Imam Mehdi kay intayzaar maiN thay Per Sultan Ayoobi agaya smile.gif )


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KHAN AMER BIN ....FALAN BIN FALAN..BIN YAZEED..
raja?????????????



Angle_eyes wali id say post kertay sharam aarahi hay ya yeh bhi koy shia shariyat ka hisa hay biggrin.gif

bahana baad maiN yeh hota hay kay hamay ban kiya jata hay iss liya new id banana paRtee hay...



app ki post shia ikhlaaq ka aala namoona hay.. thoRi information darkar thee kay app ko yeh Ikhlaq app kay imam ( ju pahaRooN maiN chupay howay haiN) woh sikathay haiN ya gher say seekhtay haiN
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Janab e Mann Haq Ali sahib smile.gif Aapne agar tareekhi hawalon se yazeed par baat kerni hai to pehlay se hi aik topic chal raha hai wahan tashreef aavri farmaiye smile.gif

Topic ka naam hai "Another Section On Hulchul"...........usko parhein aur apne points pesh karain smile.gif

Yazeed par whaan pehlay se hi baat chal rahi thi new topic start kerne ki wajah samajh nahin aayi, ya phir shaaid wahan jo discussion ab tak ho chuki hai koi himmat nahin ker raha aanay ki.......Aik alwahab bhai aaye thay wahan, 2 din se unkay reply ka intezar ker raha hon laikin wo online aa ke parh ke chalay jaatay hain.......Allah bhala karay unka, shaaid unhon ne apni baat se rajoo farma liya ho.


Daylight bhai app say atleast aisay reply ki tawaqoo nahi thee..app shiayatko nahi jantay... in ka tu oRna bichona hi yazeed hay...app in saykoybhi baat karaiN in ki taan yahaaN aa ker hi Tootti hay...app walay topic say yeh mafroor haiN aur yahaaN say bhi jald ho jayaiN gay
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Haq-Ali
khan ik baat tu bata tujhy itni shram kyoon ati hai apna app batay howay?ham shia tu kahety hain kah bhai ham Rasool(saww)kay baad mola ali(as)ko manaty hain etc..or un ko barhaq manaty hain..but tum loog kay ho?????????abhi tak tu tumhay bhi samjh nahi ayee ho gee hnn na???pehlay ik baat bata doon kah Angle_eyez mara hi id tha..oki block ho geya becoz tumharee books ko kuch zada hi read kar liya tha or yahan post kar di thee...wasay mazay ki baat ye hai kha kisi bhi halal kay tum main say kissiiiiiiii nay bhi maree post ka jawab nahi diya blkhay agay say sawalat shoro kar diya thay...wowwwwwwww.phelay insanoo ki tarhaan jawab do..phir agay baat ho gee..rahee baat Yazeed kutay ki tu..listen tumjo bhi kar lo uss ki izzat nahi bana saktay jasay...jinho nay Bibi Fatima(sa)kay uper door girayea tha..oki samjh tu aa gayee ho gee..un per lanat...oki tum bhi lanat karooo na..tum Rasool(saww)ki beti ko nahi manaty????????khar or hnn shia kay imamoon per baat kartay ho phealy apnay imam tu dhekh lo..jinho nay sharab kay sath namaz pharha di thee...........sakoon...tameez main rahoo gay tu temez say baat karoon ga warna...tumharay hi ik baray ki tharan boolon ga jo .......oki...or ye kha...Yazeed per tum lanat nahi karoo gay i know becoz tum tu Yazeediya ho..khar say..hnnn na ..tu iss tharan ham sab suuni bhia or shia yazeed per lanat kartay hain tu..tumheen bora tu lanta ho ga..so sad na...
khan_amer


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khan ik baat tu bata tujhy itni shram kyoon ati hai apna app batay howay?


App eak baat batayaiN app ko itni mushkil kyoN paish aati ay koy bhi post paRhtay howay! kiya lafzooN ki pehchaan nahi hay, ya koy aur masala darpaish hay smile.gif

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pehlay ik baat bata doon kah Angle_eyez mara hi id tha..



meray khayal say app nay yeh dair maiN batayee, per problem howi hay app ko shayad post paRhni hi nahi aateeN!!! smile.gif



baqi app shoroo say hi badtameez thay aur haiN bhi! app hi thay MSN per ju galiyaaN baqay ja rahay thay aur phir jab maiN nay sara text uTha ker yahaaN per post kiya tu Angel_eyez ki id say aa ker kehnay lagay kay aisa nahi kerna chahiyee tha.. wah ray doghla pan..app kay dosray bhai baat ker rahay thay , buhat mumkin hay kay woh mujhay pin down ker laiN per agr app ki madad un ko hasil rahee tu woh yeh kaam hergiz bhi na ker sakaiN gay, kay app ki in posts ki wajah say app kay akabir member, Rajni etc yahaaN say aisay ghaab howay haiN kay deekha/i hi nahi paRtay, kay kaheeN ham app kay alaa ikhlaaq aur deeni tarbiyat say unhaiN sharmadagee na uThani paR jaye...
Haq-Ali
khan kabhi bongi marnay say bhi baz raha karoo..mara id block kar diya jata hai such bolnay ki wajha say..ab main kya karoon...ab yazeed walay hi asa kareen tu...khar janay do..
asim10
Asa
topic to ajj say 2 saal purana hay magar google per search kay duran mila.google per search kar raha tha zakir nayak ke taqreer jis main us nay YAZEED ko rehmt ullah kaha hay . aour sydna hussain rz kay markay hoo haq o batil ka nahin aik siyasee marka kaha hay.
is waqat kafee dain ho gayee hay inshallah kall is per mazeed likhoon gha.
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