Kyoon bhai mallon kyoon???????????????????kya hazarat umer(rz)ki hamiyat imam Hussain(as)say zada thee??????kya Rasool(saww)ko imam Hussain(as)say zaa pyaray thay???????????????nahi...tu phir kyoon un kay Qatil per lanat..jab yazeed(hkkd)per lanat nahi tu uss per bhi nahi....oki....phelay Yazeed(hkkd)per lanat karoo tab assi post karna...nick tu muslim rakh liya hai...jin ki wajah say muslim ho..un ki oulad say bhi pyar karoo...oki..Yazeed wali post per jaoo or wahan Yazeed per bold words main lanat karoo..phir iss topic per baat karna..oki

iran main aik kafir ki qaber ko......................... itni ehmiyaat............
dekhain waly dekh lain yeh hai .asal face of shia.........
jahalaat ki aik haad hoti hai............

oh hnn sahee kaha...wasay...............wo kafir kasay ho gayea??????????????kya Qlma nahi pharta tha?????????????

yeh baat aap sabit karin keh wu... qalma par ta tha......
meri os bandey kay mutalik malomaat na kafi hain..
aik baat kehta choun iss post nay meray 14 tabq roshn kar diyeh...hain........
or yeh kehta chaoun keh yeh sabit ho ghiya keh abu lola kafir tha tu...



muslim 2 plz tell me aap nay ju pic post kiyeh hain wu kis site say liyeh hain.plz

Very informative post



Chalo kaafir na hua jahannami to hua na



Haan bolo muslim2 maloon kyun?? Usne aakhir aik aisay shakhs ko hi to maara tha jisne majoosiyun ke aatish qaday band kiye to bolo bhala aisay shakhs ko maarne waalay ki qabar ko agar majoosi salaam pesh kertay hain to iss mein bura kya hai?? ye hi to unka deen hai.....Aakhir majoosi apnay hero ko kyun maloon kahain??



Bolo Muslim2 khamosh kyun ho?? Bolo ke Hazrat Hussain(RA) ki himayat hazrat Umar(RA) se kayi guna ziada thi, pooray 72 logon ki himayat haasil thi Hazrat Hussain(RA) ko ya unn eeman faroash koofiyun ki jo hazrat hussain(RA) ko phhaansi ghaat par akela chhor ke chaltay banay........pooray 72 logon ki himayat thi aur hazrat Umar(RA) ko to sirf 72 lakh ke kareeb logon ki himayat haasil thi bhala ye bhi koi himayat hui.......hunh, itni kam.



To kya Rasool(PBUH) ko Hazrat Umar(RA) pyare nahin thay?? Haan wo duniya mein hi unko jannat ki basharat dena to unse nafrat ke izhaar ke liye tha.



Zara ghaour karo ye keh kon raha hai, wo loag keh rahay hain jo Rasool(PBUH) ki aulaad yani Fatima(RA) ke siva bakiyun ko Rasool(PBUH) ki aulaad ki fehrist se khaarij ker ke bad-tareen kisam ka tabarra kertay hain Rasool(PBUH) par......Aaj wohi loag Aulaad e Rasool(PBUH) ki baat kertay hain..........



Baqaoul Imam Ghazali "jo shakhs yazeed ko hazrat hussain(RA) ka qaatil samajhta hai wo parlay darjay ka ehmaq hai".......Ghazali sahib ka qaul kafi hai mein ab mazeed kya comment karon Laikin yazeed se pehlay koofay ke unn Shiaan e Ali par laanat karo jo Nabi(PBUH) ke nawasay ko uqsa kar ,bula ker qatal gah mein akela chhor ke faraar ho gaye thay........

Wesay maloom nahin Hazrat Umar(RA) ke iss qaatil ka wakaya e karbala se kya talluk hai :d ya shaaid baat ka rukh change kerna chahtay hain hamaray ye bhai

http://www.alserdaab.org/OMAR.htm
http://www.d-sunnah.net/forum/printthread.php?t=41391
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu-Lu'lu'ah

app bilkul bhi fikar na karaiN, yeh log koy na koy link nikaal hi laiN gay! kaisay yeh tu mujhay nahi pata per in kay yahaN yeh koy mushkil kaam thoRay hi hay!!!



Behr.haal MajoosiyooN aur Eisai'yooN ki baqi manda sultanate ki bacht issi surat thee kay kisi tarah muslmaanoN kay seel-e-baykaraaN ko roka jaye.. iss kay munbay ko band kiya jaye.. iss kay liya SAb say pehlay

Hazrat Umer (RZA) ko shaheed kiya gaya!! per shakhsiyaat kay pero.kaarooN ko islam ki bunyadi taleemaat say aagahi nahi thee, woh muslmanooN kay arooj ki asal wajoohat ko samjhay baghair waar ker baiThay, so Hazrat Usman (RZA) ki khilafaat maiN bhi un per yalghaar jari rahee... tu ab unhooN nay Islam kay iss sailaab ko jaR say ukhaRnay ka faisla kiya!! Hazrat Usman (RZA) ki shahdaat iss ka saboot hay, App (RZA) ko shaheed kernay walay bhi yehi shia-e-ali hi thay... silsila yahaaN per hi nahi rukta!!! Jang-e-Safwaan maiN agr HAzrat Ali (RZA) ghalib aa jatay ( jaisa kay Jang-e-Jamal maiN aye aur unhooN say sab say dr.guzr kiya aur phir dono fareeq eak hogay) tu yahaaN per jang-e-Jamal ki tareekh duhara'yee jani thee... phi rkiya hota... Islami fojaiN eak bar phir taghooti qawatooN ko kochalna shoroo ho jateeN... yeh baat Qatil-e-Umer aur Usman ko kaisay gawara hoti un ki tu sari game hi khatam ho jatee.. so unhooN nay jang ka faisla hi nahi honay diya...

silisla yahaaN tak hi nahi ruka balkay aaj tak jari hay...

hahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

this is not for u.. this is for the person whom u quoted

deviation frm the topic... but still relevant for ur stupid reply

Allamah Baghdadi's Fatwa

Tafseer Ruh al Ma'ani page 72 commentary of Surah Muhammad:

"The wicked Yazeed failed to testify to the Prophethood of Hadhrath Muhammad (s). He also perpetrated acts against the residents of Makka, Medina and the family of the Prophet (s). He indulged in these acts against them during their lives and after their deaths. These acts are so conclusively proven that had he placed the Qur'an in his hands it would have testified to his kuffar. His being a fasiq and fajir did not go unnoticed by the Ulema of Islam, but the Salaf had no choice but to remain silent as they were living under threat.

If we for arguments sake accept that Yazeed was a Muslim who lapsed and committed wrongs, one should know that a man of the rank of Alusi deemed it permissible to curse him by name as he [Yazeed] was a living example of atrocious acts and it is a well-known fact that he never sought forgiveness for killing the family of the Prophet (s) and other acts. The claim that he asked for forgiveness is even weaker than the claim that he possessed iman. When cursing him the names of Ibn Ziyad and Umar bin Sa'd should also be added, may Allah's curse be on them all?. curse till the Day of Judgement, until then our eyes shall shed tears for Husayn's suffering.

If someone does not wish to curse by name through fear [that they might be wrong, such as Ghazali], then he should say 'May God's curse be upon those that were pleased at Husayn's killing, those that subjected sufferings on the family of the Prophet, who usurped their rights - when making such a curse Yazeed's name comes to the top of the list.
No one can oppose this method of cursing save Ibn Arabi and his like minded supporters and this is major misguidance on their part - it is worse that the misguidance of Yazeed".

Al Suyuti personally cursed Yazeed

In Tareekh ul Khulafa page 208, Dhikr Shahadath Husayn we read as follows:

"Allah's curse be opon all three Ibn Ziyad, Yazeed and the killer of Imam Hussain"



read iraqion ka bulawa's last line

now who is AHMAQ..... GAZALI or .............

Assalam-o-alaikum,

tu kafir kee qabar ko ahmiyat dey bhee tu wohee rahay haen... iss mae hairat kee kya baat hay..........

wassalaam,
farooqi.

janab gusa kyoon kar rahay hain...be cool...main nay sawal kiya tha app nay agay say sawal kar diya jasay khan,daylight kartay hain...app nay kaah wo kafir tha...phelay wo prove kareen...agar nahi ho ga tu yakeen wo kafir ..oki...or hnn ab ye na kaheya ga kah Hazrat Umer ko qatal kiya tu kafir..becoz jiss nay Qalma phar liya wo muslim jab tak wo Hazoor(saww)ko akhri nabi manta hoo(app ki books main hai)ab wo agar Shaba ko gali bhi nikalay tu wo kafir nahi hai...ye main nahi kah raha app kay hi ulma kahaty hain..so sabit kareen main bhi uss per lanat karoon ga..don't worry...

wowwwwwwww daylight kay jawab diya hain ..boath achay ...hmm..wasay tum imam gazali ko kab say manay lagay(perviezi)???????acha manay ho tu ..achi baat hai ab tum nay Hazrat umer ko yaad hi kiya hai wo tumharay in imam ggazali ki hi ik baat suna data hoon..
"hazarat umer apnay Qalb ki tafseesh kay liya mubalgla karta tha or Hazfiay say say sawal karta tha kah tum maray andar NAFAQ say kuch asar mallom kartay ho"
???????????????????????????????????????????????/kasa ab ye tu maan lo na bhai..kha munafiq?????????????????????????????????????????????tumahray hi pyaray imam gazali hain na......ya phir inkar kar do...kah wo tu jothay tha imam gazali???????????????i know tum nay jo jawab dana hai..khar
lo ab tum kufa waloon per aa gayea ho..wow acha kiya..kay un per lanat na ki jayee
JINHO NAY NABI KO CHOR KAR BAGH GAYEA??????????????????SAHABA THAY...JO YE BHI KEHTAY THAY KAH ..."MAIN ASAY BAGHA KHA JASAY ..."ab main kay kay tareef karoon....
hazarat umer ko janat ki besharat..hmm tu janat kay sardar kyoon thay???????????????or tum wasay bhi kuch loogon nay hazrat umer ko janat kay old men kay sardar bana diya hadees say wowwwwwwwwww wasay old hona kamzori ki alamat hai..or janat main koi old nahi ho ga...or kuch??????????



sab bateen choro khan ..tum nay ik baree mazay ki baat kaheen kha shian-e-ali hi hazrt usman kay qatil thay etc..wow....ab main bhi kuch araz karoon agar mirchen na lageen tu..
Imam Hussain (as)ko shaeed karnay walay..Hazrat usman kay mazhab per thay.......................hahahah nahi yakeen ayea na..i know..
" Tareek Tibri"read karoo...oki..takah tumharay Qlab ko sakoon milay...zada agay mat jaoo...Paoon jal jayeen gay..bye

Dashing prince aapne poori post mein se sirf aik hi baat quote ki aur baghdadi sahib ka fatwa aur suyuti sahib ki book ka page pesh ker diya aur samjha ke aapne such ko jhutla diya?? Topic change na ho jaaye iss liye jahan ye discussion ho rahi hai wahan aa jaain "Another Section on Hulchul", aur wahan zara iss baat ko sabit ker ke dikhaiye




Maan ne se aapki kya muraad hai?? Agar maan-ne se aapki muraad hai ke kisi shakhs ko bhi agar aap quote kertay hain to uski har baat ko sahi maanain?? Meine sirf aik quotation di hai, haan agar aapkay paas kuch kehne ko hai to relevent topic mein aa jaain





:d :d Sirf khan ko na kaho balkeh zara khud bhi jaa ke parho uss mein wazeh likha hai ke Hazrat Ali(RA) ke saathi hi hazrat Usman(RA) ke qaatil thay......soch raha hon ke kisi topic mein laga hi don

heriaat ki baat yeh hai keh yeh sub aapny aap ko musalman kehtay hain or kafir ki qaber par minatain mantay hain................................
lanaat eysay musalmanoun par ju kafir parsat houn.........
nafraat ki aik intiha hai.................. par eysi intiha ju keh iman say kharij kar dey tuba tuba............

bilkul...

laga do or mara bhi ik kam kar dana...kha Nafie bin halal jamli or mazhim bin harees kay apas main jo baat hoe thee wo bhi tibri say likh dana mujhy likhna paray ga...Tibri,page249..oki

apki aadat hai k nayi se nayi baat chhairtay rehte hain aap, aapne khan ko kaha ke tabri read karo sakoon mil jaye ga tumhein to aapko bataya hai ke tabri mein hi hazrat ALi(RA) ke sathiyun ko Usman(RA) ka qatil bataya gaya hai
Baki ye aapkay aik shia sahib ki kitab hai jis mein bouhat sa bay-sanad mawaad bhi majood hai jiski nishaan dahi mein kayi baar ker chuka , lagta hai tabri par aik full topic start kerna paray ga
Bajaye iskay ke aap iss baat par tabsara kertay hazrat Ali(RA) ke sathiyun wali aapne nayi baat chhair di

gusa nahi hona daylight sakoon..hahahah koi baat nahi asa hota hai..kahbhi kabhi...gabranay ki baat nahi hai...allah shafa day ga...jo assi bateen kar rahay ho...rahee baat tibari main hazrat usman kay qataloon ka mola ali(a.s)ka sathi hona..tu wo joth hai..(as u always said...)oki ab?????????????

Wo jhoot hai!!! laikin abhi to keh rahay thay ke khan wo parho. Yani ghabra ke khud kuch samajh nahin lag rahi

Khair leave it filhaal to iss topic mein hazrat Umar(RA) ke qaatil ko sambhaalo. :p

Day Light ka qasoor naheen kion keh Ghazali ne iss keh haq mein fatwa diya hae iss liye baqol Day light keh yahee fatwa kaafi hae kion keh aur deikho gey to tareekh sub kuchh samney la keh rukh dey gee....Day light keh liye ek waqiya yaad aa gaya....
Ek Moulana sahib se kisi ne kaha keh Yazeed ko bura bhala naheen kehna chahiye kion keh us ne to Imam Husaain (AS) ko shaheed naheen kiya tha. Unhein to Shimr ne shaheed kiya tha to unhon ne jo jawaab diya wohee DAYLIGHT ko bhee diya ja sakta hae keh bhai tumhari aqal to ek KUttey se bhee kum hae kion keh agar Kuttey ko aap pathar maarein to woh pathar kee taraf naheen bhaagey ga aap kee taraf bhaagey ga. kion keh usey pata hae keh usey nuqsaan kis ne pohunchaya hae lekin Afsoos..............Kheir jaaney do.
Ab shimr Laeen ho ya Ibn-e-Saad Laeen saarey woh pathar they jo yazeed ne pheinkey they.

wat do u mean by this beyhooda example... aap Hazrat Hussain(rta) ko kya kehna chah rahay haen... ghatya zabaan istemaal karnay kee aadat itnee ho gee hay aap logon ko kay dekhtay bhee nahee kay kya likha rahay haen...

eh lay bait kiya isi muhbaat ka naam hai eysi muhbaat inn shia ko hi mubrak................... yeh bhi nehi dekhtay keh...kiay likh rehay hain