pakistan maiN chand hi qaabilay zikar seyasi groups haiN... iqtedaar ki musical chairs ka game jinkay hi gird ghoomta hai .... aik to centrally bar saray iqtedaar group mush and qaaf league hai.... phir PML-N hai, PPP hai, MQM hai, chand aur qaum parast parties haiN ... aur inkay saath saath mazhabi jamatouN ka aalliance, MMA hai.
iss waqt PML-N aur PPP, ARD k plate form say yakjaa hai jabkay MQM aur PPP ka aik dhara hakoomat maiN shamil hai.
ho qaaf league 'hakoomati party' hai lekin asal iqtedaar mush / army k pass hai. mush n hakoomati party ki karkardagi sab k saamnay hai. qata nazar isskay k mush iqtedaar maiN kaisay aayaa....... iski islam-dushmani sab k saamnay nomayaaN hai.... mobayyanah taur par yeh khud bhi qaadyani hai aur iska pm bhi... pm to world bank ka agent bhi hai......... koi bhi islam pasand ya nazarya e pakistan ka hami mush ki "raushan khayaal" policy say muttafiq naheeN hosakta illa yeh k zaati mofadaat ki khatir ossay mush iqtedaar say hissa mil raha ho....... MQM kissi taaruf ki mohtaaj naheeN.... qaum parasat parties ka awwal aakhir maqsaad pakistan k andar say choTy choTy azaad reyaastaiN azaad karwana hai....
PPP go bazahir aik qaumi party hai.... lekin iss ka bhi giye sindh say gahra talluq hai.... sindh maiN to aksar office bearer ppp / g a sindh k same hain.... PML-N ka baRa hissa to qaaf league maiN shamil hai jo mush ki rokhsati k saath hi wapis muslim league maiN aajayega........
iss waqt mottahdah opposition maiN MMA aur ARD 2 aham aur baRay group haiN... ARD maiN 2 baRi party PPP aur PML-N haiN. jabkay MMA maiN JI aur JUI nomayaaN haiN........
aaj aik farad yeh claim karta hai k woh "islam pasand hai" nazarya e pakistan ka haami hai.... khud bhi islami taaleemaat par amal karta hai............. lekin ba.wa.jooh MMA ki "mokhalfat" iss tarah karta hai k iski achchaiyyaN bhi bori nazar aati haiN........ aur woh MMA ko lataaRnay ka koi moqa haath say janay naheeN deta......... wazah rahay k seyasi jaizah aur tanqeed aik alag cheez hai aur mokhalfat / nafrat alag shaii........ jaisay maiN qaum parast parties houN yaa mush n co, inki "mokhalfat" karta houN ... jabkay MMA par (jahaaN zaroorat ho) tanqeed karta houN......... meri mush-mokhalfat ka sabab wazah hai ... aik to pakistan ko mush say bachana.... dossray MMA / PML-N ko faidah pahonchana.......
ab ppp etni strong nahee rahi k mulk ko khatiray khaah nuqsaan pahoncha sakay....
jo log MMA ki mokhalfat kartay haiN.......... onki kaseer /bhari tadaad islam aur islami taleemaat say dooooooooooor hai. mera challenge hai k pakistan ki politics say dilchaspi rakhnay waalouN maiN say agar 100 MMA mokhalif afraad ki list tayyar ki jaye 80/90 feesad log woh houngay jinki zaati zindagi maiN islam ka amal dakhal baray naam hi hoga............ albatta intehayee qaleel tadaad aisay DEEN DAAR logouN ki bhi hai jo islam ko pasand bhi kartay hain, ISLAM par amal paar bhi haiN lekin MMA ki mokhalfat bhi baRi shad o madd say kartay haiN.... pata naheeN aisay afraad pakistan ki seyasat maiN darpardah mush n co ki hamayat karna chhatay haiN, MQM ki, PPP ki ya deger qaum parast parties ki.......... kiyouNkay MMA ko jo bhi nuqsaan pahonchay, iskay baraya raast faidah inhi group ko pahonchay gaa.............
agar aik bay deen, 'raushan khayal' aur maghrib parast yaa qaum parast fard MMA ki mokhalfat karta hai.... aur yaqeenan ossay aisa karna bhi chahiyeh ... to iska AQLI JAWAAZ samajh maiN bhi aataa hai............ lekin islam pasand, islam par amal karnay walay, islam ka bol baalaa dekhnay k khahishmand (yaa kam az kam iska dawaa karnay walay) aik established mazahabi seyasi group ko tabaah o barbaad karnay k khahish.mand kiyouN haiN........ yeh baat aaj tak samajh maiN naheeN aayee.......... maiN MMA ko sau feesad as per islam qarar nahee deta......... agar aaj MMA say baRa koi political group MMA say zeyadah deendaar haisyat ka hamil pakistan ki sarzameen par maujood nazar aaye to maiN yaqeenan MMA ki bajaye ossay tarjeeh douNga........ lekin ajb aisee koi quwwat maujood nah ho aur maiN akela koi teer nahee chala sakta to maiN MMA hi ko tarjeeh dounga........ k rozay hashar mujh say yeh bhi poocha jayega k tum nay kinn political groups ki hamayat ki thee aur mazhabi quwwatouN ki hamayat kiyouN nahee ki theeee.... aur agar maujood mazhabi jamataiN islam say bahooooooot doooor theeN to tum nay inn say behtar aur baRi seyasi quwwat tashkeel kiyouN nahee dee.....
mazhabi aur non-mazhabi jamataiN.... tarazoo k do palray haiN....... agar aap kissi aik ka wazan kam kartay haiN to doosri ka wazan az khood baRh jata hai..... aap deeni jamatouN k palray ka wazan shauq say kam karaiN........ lekin phir aap secular parties k baRhnay walay wazan ki zimmadari say bari uzzimmah nahee hosaktay........ aur nah hi onkay iqtedaar k zor par phailaye howay shar k azaab say......... meray liyeh to aik mahfooz raastah maujood hai k maiN deeni jamatouN ko support karoun....... agar yeh deeni jamataiN phir bhi matloobah nataijpaida nahee karteeN to woh Allah k haaN khud jawaab dah houngeeN. aur maiN yeh kah kar rozay hashar apna daman bacha sakat houn k maiN nay to islamic group k saath thaa, inki khamiyaaN jannay k bawajood. jabkay dossri taraf islam dushman thay......... aur Allah nay mujh main etni salahiyyat / taqat naheeN dee the k maiN maujood islam pasandouN say behtar group az khud bana sakouN........
Allah deen pasandouN ko durust seyasi fikar ki taufeeq day. aameen
Full Version: MMA Ki Mokhalfat
Above post kay mutabiq Leaderan-e-MMA & MMA key himayat sirf iss liya kerni chahiyee kyoN kay unhooN nay unlike other parties, Islam ka nara lagaya hay.
kya koy yeh bata sakta hay kay Islam ka nara laga ker zati-mufadaat hasil kernay maiN aur Roshan-Khayali ka nara laga ker zati-mufadaat hasil kernay maiN ikya farq hay?
her do koy sirf apni kursi aziz hay... ( proved from their actions)
her do ko aam aadmi key zindage aur mout say koy sarokaar nahi.. ( proved from their actions)
dono kay hi naray/actions mufadaat kay hawalay say haiN...
Misaal kay tor per Mush & Co. India say taluqaat baRhatay haiN tu hamay Opposition leader Janab FazlusRehman sahib bhi wahga Border say india jatay nazr aatay haiN?
( yeh sirf eak misaal hay)
issi forum per MMA key taraf say One Dish party ka bill bhi paish howa, aisay hi ultay seedhay bill govt. paish kertee hay.. Dono maiN kya farq howa.
Govt kay arkaan bhi kursiyooN say chimTay rehna chahtay haiN ( her qeemat per) Opposition bhi action bhi yehi bata rahay haiN. dono maiN kya farq howa...
haan eak farq hay
Eak Islam ko sale ker raha hay aur dosra roshan.khayali!!!
AA Bhai,,, apki post parh ke Zia ka refrundum yaad aa gya hey
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AA Bhai,,, apki post parh ke Zia ka refrundum yaad aa gya hey
yaani agar aap ko islam pasand hai to maiN zia ul haq aglay 5 saal k liyeh sadar hogayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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yaani agar aap ko islam pasand hai to maiN zia ul haq aglay 5 saal k liyeh sadar hogayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
waisey aap ki tahreer ke mutabiq tu Pakistan key naam se Islamic Republic ke alfaaz nikal diye janey chahiye,,, kion ke ba-amal Musalmaanoon ki ta'adaad ka tu aapko bhi andaza hey
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waisey aap ki tahreer ke mutabiq tu Pakistan key naam se Islamic Republic ke alfaaz nikal diye janey chahiye,,, kion ke ba-amal Musalmaanoon ki ta'adaad ka tu aapko bhi andaza hey
aap apni "khahish"
hamaray sar kiyouN thop rahay haiN... 
phir kal kalaaN ko 'pakistan' ka naam badalnay ko bhi kahengay k yeh pakistan maiN paak jagahaiN haiN hi ketny 
agar pak maiN baa.amal mulims kam haiN to iss maiN pakistan ka qasoor naheeN... yeh hamaray (ab tak aanay walay) hukmaranouN ka qasoor hai k onhouN nay aisa set up nahee bannay dia k log islam par easily amal karsakaiN.... aur hamara qasoor yeh hai k hamaiN jab bhi moqaa mila .... ham nay deen say dooooooooor logouN ko hi select kia............ jo LEADERs (LEADER Bhai naheeN
) apnay 6 ft k qad par islam ko nafiz naheeN karsaktay.... woh solah kaRoR awaam par kia khaak islaam ko naafiz karnay maiN madad.gaar houNgay......... 
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aap apni "khahish"
hamaray sar kiyouN thop rahay haiN... phir kal kalaaN ko 'pakistan' ka naam badalnay ko bhi kahengay k yeh pakistan maiN paak jagahaiN haiN hi ketny agar pak maiN baa.amal mulims kam haiN to iss maiN pakistan ka qasoor naheeN... yeh hamaray (ab tak aanay walay) hukmaranouN ka qasoor hai k onhouN nay aisa set up nahee bannay dia k log islam par easily amal karsakaiN.... aur hamara qasoor yeh hai k hamaiN jab bhi moqaa mila .... ham nay deen say dooooooooor logouN ko hi select kia............ jo LEADERs (LEADER Bhai naheeN
) apnay 6 ft k qad par islam ko nafiz naheeN karsaktay.... woh solah kaRoR awaam par kia khaak islaam ko naafiz karnay maiN madad.gaar houNgay......... waisy aapko kaisey pata chala ke MMA ke rah'numa ba'amal musalmaan hain,, haan main yeah zaroor manta hoon ke wo ba'amali syasaatdaan zaroor hain,,,,
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waisy aapko kaisey pata chala ke MMA ke rah'numa ba'amal musalmaan hain,, haan main yeah zaroor manta hoon ke wo ba'amali syasaatdaan zaroor hain,,,,
agar aap ghair jaanib.daari say dekhengay to MMA LEADERS aur members bhi deger parties say nisbatan zeyadah baa amal nazar aayengay.... illah masha Allah..
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agar aap ghair jaanib.daari say dekhengay to MMA LEADERS aur members bhi deger parties say nisbatan zeyadah baa amal nazar aayengay.... illah masha Allah..
it doesn't mean k MMA say bahar k log baa amal naheeN ... yahaaN sirf MMA aur degar jamatouN k LEADERS / members ka mawaznah kia gaya hai k kiss jamaat / paRty k logouN ki kaseer tadaad baa amal hai
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agar aap ghair jaanib.daari say dekhengay to MMA LEADERS aur members bhi deger parties say nisbatan zeyadah baa amal nazar aayengay.... illah masha Allah..
yahi tu main kah raha hoon ke daikhney aur honey main yaqeenan farq hota hey,,,,, daikh tu sab laitey hain,,,,,,, pata kissi kissi ko chalta hey haqeeqat ka
aap daikhney ki had tak baat ker rahey hain ya aap ko pata hey ???
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qata nazar isskay k mush iqtedaar maiN kaisay aayaa....... iski islam-dushmani sab k saamnay nomayaaN hai.... mobayyanah taur par yeh khud bhi qaadyani hai aur iska pm bhi.
Qadiyani chunke kafir hain lehaza aap Musharraf aur Shaukat Aziz ko kafir keh rahay hain, Kya aapko maloom hai k kisi muslim ko kafir kehne ki saza kya hai??
Aur agar ye qadiyani hotay to MMA sub se pehlay Supreme Court mein jati kyunke Pakistan ke qanoon ke mutabik koi Qadiyani Sadar nahin bun sakta,Hairat hoti hai mujhe unn par jo zati na pasandeedgi ko pehlay nafrat tak aur phir kuffar tak le jaatay hain.
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koi bhi islam pasand ya nazarya e pakistan ka hami
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aaj aik farad yeh claim karta hai k woh "islam pasand hai" nazarya e pakistan ka haami hai
Ittefaq ki baat hai ke aapne islam pasandi ka zikr kiya aur dono baar sath mein nazariyya e pakistan ka haami bhi likha, which concludes
ke ye dono baatein laazim o malzoom hain :p
Apki baat sunn kar to aaj zameen hi nahin aasman bhi ro para ho ga ke aap maulviyun kay uss tolay ko nazariyya e Pakistan ka haami qarar de rahay hain jo Qayam e Pakistan ke waqt nazariyya e pakistan ke sub se baray mukhalif thay.....
Quaid e Hizb e Ikhtalaf "Maulana" Fazlur Rehman ke walid sahib Sooba Sarhad ke governor bhi reh chukay hain aur unka ye bayaan unki governari ke zamanay mein hi shaya hua tha ke
"Main Pakistan bananay ke gunah mein shaamil nahin"..... Kyunke Unhon ne aur unki jamaat ne Pakistan ke qayaam aur Nazariyya e Pakistan ki sakht mukhalfat ki thi aur jo shakhs pakistan ka governor ho kar bhi pakistan ke qayam ko aik Gunah qarar de uss se zyada ehsan faramosh shakhs kon ho sakta hai......
Aur aaj aapkay nazdeek ye loag nazariyya e pakistan ke sub se baray haami hain.......
Doosri jamaat, jamat e islami ko lijiye ke Maudodi sahib ka ye fiqra aaj bhi unki kitab mein majood hai ke "Muslim league ke Quaid e azam se le kar chhotay chhotay leaders mein se kisi ke kirdaar mein khoord-been (microscope) laga kar bhi islamiyat ki chheent tak nahin dhoondi ja sakti".
Lehaza apni post ko edit ker ke nazariyya e pakistan ke hiumayati ka lafz nikal dein.
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wazah rahay k seyasi jaizah aur tanqeed aik alag cheez hai aur mokhalfat / nafrat alag shaii........ jaisay maiN qaum parast parties houN yaa mush n co, inki "mokhalfat" karta houN
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"mokhalfat" iss tarah karta hai k iski achchaiyyaN bhi bori nazar aati haiN.
Ye to intehayi ghalat tarz e fikr hai ke chunke aapko musharraf se nafrat hai lehaza aapko uski achhaiyan bhi buri nazar ati hain aur MMA ke haami hain to unki buraiyun ko bhi aap achha samajhne lagain.
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jo log MMA ki mokhalfat kartay haiN.......... onki kaseer /bhari tadaad islam aur islami taleemaat say dooooooooooor hai.
Qayam e Pakistan ke waqt bhi yahi game kheli gayi thi, takreeban tamam "Islam Pasand" parties pakistan ke khilaaf thi to kya iska ye matlab tha ke jo koi bhi inn "islam pasand" parties ke khilaf ho ga wo secular hai??? Wo islam se bouhat doooooooor hai???
Aik taraf daarhiyun walay namazi aur doosri taraf three piece suit wala Jinnah aur clean shave Iqbal.Jinki zindagiyun mein baqaul "islam pasand parties" islamiyat ki chheent bhi na dekhi ja sakti ho, jin par kuffar ke fatway lug chukay hon jinko kafir e azam tak kaha ja chuka ho to "islam pasandon" ko chhor ke jinhon ne unn "seculars"
ka sath dia wohi kamyaab huway aur unhi "seculars" ki badaulat aaj aap yahan pakistan mein hain......
Batain zara ke uss mauqay par "islam pasandon" ka sath dena chahiye tha ya "seculars" ka ??
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jo log MMA ki mokhalfat kartay haiN.......... onki kaseer /bhari tadaad islam aur islami taleemaat say dooooooooooor hai.
Agar Maulvi ki mukhalfat ghair islami cheez hai to Allama Iqbal shaid duniya ke sub se zyada ghair islami shakhs hon.
Wesay islam e door hai ka kya matlab hai aur aapka paimana kya hai kisi ke islami aur ghair islmai honay ka ??
Kya 5 waqt namaz parh lena,darhi rakh lena,pounchay oper taang lena hi islam hai ??? Warna ghar bethay to kisi ko andaz nahin ho sakta.
Haan aik baat apko batata chalon ke MMA ke jo baray baray MUlla hain unki rozi ka zarriya wo zameenein hain jin ko inhon ne batayi par de rakha hai aur jissay Hazoor(PBUH) ne khulay alfaaz mein sood qarar diya tha,
Ab sood ya haram roti kamanay ke bawajood bhi agar koi shakhs sirf daarhi rakh lenay ya islam islam ka naara laganay se deen daar bun jata hai to kya hi baat hai......Ye ghair mulki dauron aur elections ke liye paisay aisay hi to nahin aa jatay :p
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agar aaj MMA say baRa koi political group MMA say zeyadah deendaar haisyat ka hamil pakistan ki sarzameen par maujood nazar aaye
Yakeen kijiye ke aisi deen daari se behtar hai banda kisi ko vote na dalay ya PML aur PPP jesi "secular" jamaton ko hi daal de, Aadha islam jitna khatarnaak hota hai utna khatarnaak secularism nahin hota kyunke uss khatarnaaki se islam budnaam ho jaata hai.....
MMA islam islam islam kyun kehti rehti hai ??? Aapko to zarur samajh lena chahaiye tha, wajah ye hai ke inkay paas vote lenay ki aur koi wajah nahin hai, yahi inka wahid hathyar hai.....
Wesay elections kareeb aa rahay hain aur aisi post!!! hmmmm kahin aapko MMA ne hire to nahin kia iss baar apni media compaign ke liye :d :d
Aapki iss post ka jawab Allama Iqbal ke shair mein dena chahon ga
"Qaum kya hai, Qaumon ki imamat kya hai
Isko kya samjhein ye bechaaray do rakat ke imam".
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Qadiyani chunke kafir hain lehaza aap Musharraf aur Shaukat Aziz ko kafir keh rahay hain, Kya aapko maloom hai k kisi muslim ko kafir kehne ki saza kya hai??
Aur agar ye qadiyani hotay to MMA sub se pehlay Supreme Court mein jati kyunke Pakistan ke qanoon ke mutabik koi Qadiyani Sadar nahin bun sakta,Hairat hoti hai mujhe unn par jo zati na pasandeedgi ko pehlay nafrat tak aur phir kuffar tak le jaatay hain.
Ittefaq ki baat hai ke aapne islam pasandi ka zikr kiya aur dono baar sath mein nazariyya e pakistan ka haami bhi likha, which concludes
ke ye dono baatein laazim o malzoom hain :p
Apki baat sunn kar to aaj zameen hi nahin aasman bhi ro para ho ga ke aap maulviyun kay uss tolay ko nazariyya e Pakistan ka haami qarar de rahay hain jo Qayam e Pakistan ke waqt nazariyya e pakistan ke sub se baray mukhalif thay.....
Quaid e Hizb e Ikhtalaf "Maulana" Fazlur Rehman ke walid sahib Sooba Sarhad ke governor bhi reh chukay hain aur unka ye bayaan unki governari ke zamanay mein hi shaya hua tha ke
"Main Pakistan bananay ke gunah mein shaamil nahin"..... Kyunke Unhon ne aur unki jamaat ne Pakistan ke qayaam aur Nazariyya e Pakistan ki sakht mukhalfat ki thi aur jo shakhs pakistan ka governor ho kar bhi pakistan ke qayam ko aik Gunah qarar de uss se zyada ehsan faramosh shakhs kon ho sakta hai......
Aur aaj aapkay nazdeek ye loag nazariyya e pakistan ke sub se baray haami hain.......
Doosri jamaat, jamat e islami ko lijiye ke Maudodi sahib ka ye fiqra aaj bhi unki kitab mein majood hai ke "Muslim league ke Quaid e azam se le kar chhotay chhotay leaders mein se kisi ke kirdaar mein khoord-been (microscope) laga kar bhi islamiyat ki chheent tak nahin dhoondi ja sakti".
Lehaza apni post ko edit ker ke nazariyya e pakistan ke hiumayati ka lafz nikal dein.
Ye to intehayi ghalat tarz e fikr hai ke chunke aapko musharraf se nafrat hai lehaza aapko uski achhaiyan bhi buri nazar ati hain aur MMA ke haami hain to unki buraiyun ko bhi aap achha samajhne lagain.
Qayam e Pakistan ke waqt bhi yahi game kheli gayi thi, takreeban tamam "Islam Pasand" parties pakistan ke khilaaf thi to kya iska ye matlab tha ke jo koi bhi inn "islam pasand" parties ke khilaf ho ga wo secular hai??? Wo islam se bouhat doooooooor hai???
Aik taraf daarhiyun walay namazi aur doosri taraf three piece suit wala Jinnah aur clean shave Iqbal.Jinki zindagiyun mein baqaul "islam pasand parties" islamiyat ki chheent bhi na dekhi ja sakti ho, jin par kuffar ke fatway lug chukay hon jinko kafir e azam tak kaha ja chuka ho to "islam pasandon" ko chhor ke jinhon ne unn "seculars"
ka sath dia wohi kamyaab huway aur unhi "seculars" ki badaulat aaj aap yahan pakistan mein hain......
Batain zara ke uss mauqay par "islam pasandon" ka sath dena chahiye tha ya "seculars" ka ??
Agar Maulvi ki mukhalfat ghair islami cheez hai to Allama Iqbal shaid duniya ke sub se zyada ghair islami shakhs hon.
Wesay islam e door hai ka kya matlab hai aur aapka paimana kya hai kisi ke islami aur ghair islmai honay ka ??
Kya 5 waqt namaz parh lena,darhi rakh lena,pounchay oper taang lena hi islam hai ??? Warna ghar bethay to kisi ko andaz nahin ho sakta.
Haan aik baat apko batata chalon ke MMA ke jo baray baray MUlla hain unki rozi ka zarriya wo zameenein hain jin ko inhon ne batayi par de rakha hai aur jissay Hazoor(PBUH) ne khulay alfaaz mein sood qarar diya tha,
Ab sood ya haram roti kamanay ke bawajood bhi agar koi shakhs sirf daarhi rakh lenay ya islam islam ka naara laganay se deen daar bun jata hai to kya hi baat hai......Ye ghair mulki dauron aur elections ke liye paisay aisay hi to nahin aa jatay :p
Yakeen kijiye ke aisi deen daari se behtar hai banda kisi ko vote na dalay ya PML aur PPP jesi "secular" jamaton ko hi daal de, Aadha islam jitna khatarnaak hota hai utna khatarnaak secularism nahin hota kyunke uss khatarnaaki se islam budnaam ho jaata hai.....
MMA islam islam islam kyun kehti rehti hai ??? Aapko to zarur samajh lena chahaiye tha, wajah ye hai ke inkay paas vote lenay ki aur koi wajah nahin hai, yahi inka wahid hathyar hai.....
[b]Wesay elections kareeb aa rahay hain aur aisi post!!! hmmmm kahin aapko MMA ne hire to nahin kia iss baar apni media compaign ke liye :d :d
Aapki iss post ka jawab Allama Iqbal ke shair mein dena chahon ga
"Qaum kya hai, Qaumon ki imamat kya hai
Isko kya samjhein ye bechaaray do rakat ke imam".
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aap k mouNh maiN ghee shakaar ... agar aap recommend kardaiN to aisa mumkin hai... issi bahanay kuch "mehantana"
to wasool ho. maiN "MMA ko yaqeen dahani" karata houN k maiN onn "pesha.war media managers" say zeyadah behtar out put douNga, jinhaiN woh ab tak 'hire' kartay rahay haiN 
waisay aap ki "ittelaa" k liyeh arz hai k maiN qabl azeeN MMA k old version IJI (islami jamhoori ittehaad) ki media team ka member rah chuka houN. poori election compain maiN apnay kharchay par adara noore haq (karachi) jaa kar ghanTouN kaam karta raha houN.... sirf aik piyali chaii aur chand biscuit k mo'aawzay par .... jabkay IJI ka publicity budget kaRoRouN rupees ka tha jo sab k sab pesha.war media men ki jaib maiN chalay gaye........ ab to kam az kam aisa nah ho....
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..Doosri jamaat, jamat e islami ko lijiye ke Maudodi sahib ka ye fiqra aaj bhi unki kitab mein majood hai ke "Muslim league ke Quaid e azam se le kar chhotay chhotay leaders mein se kisi ke kirdaar mein khoord-been (microscope) laga kar bhi islamiyat ki chheent tak nahin dhoondi ja sakti".
Maoulana Modoodi (r.a.) ke is 'mubbiyyna' biyan ke bawjood YEH RECORD PER HAI KEH (GHALIBAN) 1948 MAIN QUAID-E-AZAM (R.A.) NE MOULANA MODOODI (R.A.) KO RADIO PAKISTAN PER AA KER ISLAMI NIZAM KE KHAD-O-KHAL BIYAN KERNEY KI DAWAT DI...Quaid ki ziNdagi hi main balkeh un ki dawat per (State of Pakistan ke tarjuman) RADIO per aa ker Maulana ne woh 10 mash.hoor lectures diye jo ba'ad azaN un ki kitab " Islam ka Nizam-e-Hayat' ki soorat maiN shaya hoey..........Cheh Meni da'rad ???
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Aik taraf daarhiyun walay namazi aur doosri taraf three piece suit wala Jinnah aur clean shave Iqbal.Jinki zindagiyun mein baqaul "islam pasand parties" islamiyat ki chheent bhi na dekhi ja sakti ho, .....
Agar Maulvi ki mukhalfat ghair islami cheez hai to Allama Iqbal shaid duniya ke sub se zyada ghair islami shakhs hon.
Agar Maulvi ki mukhalfat ghair islami cheez hai to Allama Iqbal shaid duniya ke sub se zyada ghair islami shakhs hon.
What a great 'argument'..
haaN ji, Allama Iqbal Islam PasaNd aur deeni parties ke bohat khilaf they issi liye :
Ghaliban 1930's main Iqbal (r.a.) ne Moulana Maoudoodi (r.a.) ko aik letter bheja keh aap Hydrabad choR ker Mashraqi Punjab (Pthan Kot) chley JayaiN ...aur us ko jagha ko apna markez bna ker Islami ki tableegh-o-ishaat ka beRa uthaiN...aur (on th RECORD hai)keh Moulana ko Iqbal ka woh letter jab pohNchaya giya to Moulana ne foran yeh faisla kiya aur Phatan Kot mutaqil ho giye...jis ki baqaida tareekhi 'gawahi' mojood hai....Day Light sahb is sab ka bhi Inkaar ker dain (aap ke lie liya mushkil hai.... )
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Aapki iss post ka jawab Allama Iqbal ke shair mein dena chahon ga
"Qaum kya hai, Qaumon ki imamat kya hai
Isko kya samjhein ye bechaaray do rakat ke imam".
"Qaum kya hai, Qaumon ki imamat kya hai
Isko kya samjhein ye bechaaray do rakat ke imam".
Aur is ka jawab Iqbal ke doosrey shei r se:
Jalal-e-Padshahi ho keh Jamhoori tamasha ho
Juda hoo deeN siysat se to reh jati hai ChaNgezi
Deeni jamatooN [aur khasoosan Jamat-e-Islami / Maoulana Maodoodi (r.a.) ki Pakistan ]Dushmani
ka aik Mubiyyna SABOOT mulahiza hooooooooo:Waltin Camp aur Jamat-e-Islami..
Yeh Pakistan dushman fiqrah bhi kisi 'Molvi' ne kaha tha keh:
" Masjid ban.ney ki jagha per to ikhtalaf ho sakta hai...laken jab masjid ban jaye, to phir sab ko wahan azzan de ker namaz paRni ho ti hai "
akbar elah aabaadi nay kaha tha:
sabhi mujh say yeh kahtay haiN: rakh neechi nazar apni
koi onn say naheeN kahta, nah niklo youN ayaaN ho kar
aaj pakistan maiN sabhi log moulvi say hi kahtay haiN... tum nay aisa kiyouN kia, tum yeh kiyouN naheeN kartay, tum woh kiyouN naheeN kartay... tum islam k jin 10 / 20 yaa 30 feesad hissay par abhi tak amal para naheeN ho onn par bhi amal kiyouN naheeN kartay
lekin koi non-molvi say naheeN kahta... bhai tum bhi to mosalmaan ho ... kuch tum bhi to islam par amal karo... tum pahlay "moulvi" k barabar to islam par amal kar dekhawo... phir moulvi say bhi sad feesad islam par amal karnay ko kahnaaa...
hamari qaum nay yehi ahwaal "deeni jamatouN" k saath rawa rakha howa hai... aaj koi batlaye to sahee k pakistan maiN sharab ki ketni miqdaar non-deeni jamat k leaders / workers peetay haiN aur ketni deeni jamaat k leadersaur workers.... aaj koi yeh to batlaaye k masajid maiN kiss group k leaders / workers zeyadah jaatay haiN... aaj koi yeh to batlaye k rizqay haraam kinn parties k leaders /workers zeyadah khatay kamatay haiN, deeni jamaat yaa non-deeni jamaat.... koi yeh batlaye k qaumi qarzay kiss group k leaders nay maaf karwaya... deeeni yaa non-deeni........... aap koi bhi criteria lay laiN.... koi bhi wasf khoobi /borayee ko pakar laiN aur compare karain k yeh khoobi /khaami deeni jamatouN k leaders maiN zeyadah hai yaa doosri jamatouN main.
farq saaf zaahir hojayega ... bah shartekay basarat o baseerat per tassub ki ainak nah lagi ho
" Masjid ban.ney ki jagha per to ikhtalaf ho sakta hai...laken jab masjid ban jaye, to phir sab ko wahan azzan de ker namaz paRni ho ti hai "[/color]
moulvi.youN maiN yehi to aik "kharaabi" hai k woh nah sirf yeh k khud namaaz paRhtay hain balkay sab muslims say bhi yehi tawaqqah rakhtay haiN k woh bhi namaaz paRhay....
aray Allah k bando... aap masjid maiN baiTh kar Allah allah kartay raho, hum aap k kaam maiN kab "modaakhlat" kartay haiN.... aap bhi hamain DUNYA O SEYASAT KA KAAM apnay tareeqay karnay do... nah tum hamaray kaam maiN interfere karo nah hum tumharay kaam maiN.... lakum dee na kum wa leya deen ... per amal kiyoun naheeN kartay....
aik dehati ka bail masjid maiN ghuss aayaa to moulvi sahab nay ossay bola kar DaaNTaa k dekho tumharaa bail masjid maiN aagaayaa hai... dehati nay maazrat kartay howay kahaa... moulvi sb janawar hai, maafi day do... kabhi mujhay masjid maiN ghustay howay dekha hai.......
sabhi mujh say yeh kahtay haiN: rakh neechi nazar apni
koi onn say naheeN kahta, nah niklo youN ayaaN ho kar
aaj pakistan maiN sabhi log moulvi say hi kahtay haiN... tum nay aisa kiyouN kia, tum yeh kiyouN naheeN kartay, tum woh kiyouN naheeN kartay... tum islam k jin 10 / 20 yaa 30 feesad hissay par abhi tak amal para naheeN ho onn par bhi amal kiyouN naheeN kartay
lekin koi non-molvi say naheeN kahta... bhai tum bhi to mosalmaan ho ... kuch tum bhi to islam par amal karo... tum pahlay "moulvi" k barabar to islam par amal kar dekhawo... phir moulvi say bhi sad feesad islam par amal karnay ko kahnaaa...
hamari qaum nay yehi ahwaal "deeni jamatouN" k saath rawa rakha howa hai... aaj koi batlaye to sahee k pakistan maiN sharab ki ketni miqdaar non-deeni jamat k leaders / workers peetay haiN aur ketni deeni jamaat k leadersaur workers.... aaj koi yeh to batlaaye k masajid maiN kiss group k leaders / workers zeyadah jaatay haiN... aaj koi yeh to batlaye k rizqay haraam kinn parties k leaders /workers zeyadah khatay kamatay haiN, deeni jamaat yaa non-deeni jamaat.... koi yeh batlaye k qaumi qarzay kiss group k leaders nay maaf karwaya... deeeni yaa non-deeni........... aap koi bhi criteria lay laiN.... koi bhi wasf khoobi /borayee ko pakar laiN aur compare karain k yeh khoobi /khaami deeni jamatouN k leaders maiN zeyadah hai yaa doosri jamatouN main.
farq saaf zaahir hojayega ... bah shartekay basarat o baseerat per tassub ki ainak nah lagi ho
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" Masjid ban.ney ki jagha per to ikhtalaf ho sakta hai...laken jab masjid ban jaye, to phir sab ko wahan azzan de ker namaz paRni ho ti hai "[/color]
moulvi.youN maiN yehi to aik "kharaabi" hai k woh nah sirf yeh k khud namaaz paRhtay hain balkay sab muslims say bhi yehi tawaqqah rakhtay haiN k woh bhi namaaz paRhay....
aray Allah k bando... aap masjid maiN baiTh kar Allah allah kartay raho, hum aap k kaam maiN kab "modaakhlat" kartay haiN.... aap bhi hamain DUNYA O SEYASAT KA KAAM apnay tareeqay karnay do... nah tum hamaray kaam maiN interfere karo nah hum tumharay kaam maiN.... lakum dee na kum wa leya deen ... per amal kiyoun naheeN kartay....
aik dehati ka bail masjid maiN ghuss aayaa to moulvi sahab nay ossay bola kar DaaNTaa k dekho tumharaa bail masjid maiN aagaayaa hai... dehati nay maazrat kartay howay kahaa... moulvi sb janawar hai, maafi day do... kabhi mujhay masjid maiN ghustay howay dekha hai.......
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Maoulana Modoodi (r.a.) ke is 'mubbiyyna' biyan ke bawjood
Ye unka koi bayaan nahin tha unhon ne apni kitab mein aisa likha hai jisko aap bhi parh saktay hain, Kitab hai Musalmaan aur Majooda Siyasi Kashmakash volume 3 page 37 jis mein Quaid e Azam ke mutallik majood hai
"League ke Quaid e azam se le kar chhotay chhotay muqtadiyun tak aik bhi aisa nahin jo islami zehniyyat aur islami tarz e fikr rakhta ho aur maamlaat ko islami nuqta e nigah se dekhta ho".
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YEH RECORD PER HAI KEH (GHALIBAN) 1948 MAIN QUAID-E-AZAM (R.A.) NE MOULANA MODOODI (R.A.) KO RADIO PAKISTAN PER AA KER ISLAMI NIZAM KE KHAD-O-KHAL BIYAN KERNEY KI DAWAT DI...Quaid ki ziNdagi hi main balkeh un ki dawat per (State of Pakistan ke tarjuman) RADIO per aa ker Maulana ne woh 10 mash.hoor lectures diye jo ba'ad azaN un ki kitab " Islam ka Nizam-e-Hayat' ki soorat maiN shaya hoey..........Cheh Meni da'rad ???
Ye baat bhi on the record hai ke jab pakistan bun gaya to pakistan ke markaz aur soobon mein baray baray uhdon par aisay loag bhi qaabiz ho gaye jo qayam e paksitan se pehlay angrezon ke wafadaar ghulam thay lekin pakistan ke qayaam ke baad wo unhon ne ye raag alapna shuru ker diya ke hum to shuru se hi pakistan ke sath thay, bouhat se jaageerdaar aur wadairay jinko saari zameenain angrezon se wafadari ke inam mein mili thi yahan aa basay thay aur kaafi asar o rasookh bhi rakhtay thay....
Phir ye baat bhi on the record majood hai k Radio programs nichlay officers ke tawassut se pesh kiye jatay thay governor general ke nahin aur na hi mulk ke sarbarah ko ye maloom kertay rehne ki fursat thi ke taqreeron ki ijazat kis kis ko mil rahi hai.........kyunke uss waqt mulki aur bain ul aqwami halaat kis kisam ke thay aap waqif hain.....
Jahan tak ye baat hai ke Quaid e azam ne khud bulaya tha aur dawat di thi to iska saboot pesh kerna pasand karain gay??
Shaaid kal ko koi ye bhi keh de ke noor jahan ko radio par gaanay ki dawat quaid e azam ne hi di thi, jesay maudodi sahib ki begum ka bayaan tha ke do qaumi nazarriya Allama Iqbal ne nahin maudodi sahib ne pesh kiya tha :d :d
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What a great 'argument'..
haaN ji, Allama Iqbal Islam PasaNd aur deeni parties ke bohat khilaf they issi liye :
haaN ji, Allama Iqbal Islam PasaNd aur deeni parties ke bohat khilaf they issi liye :
hahaha apko kisne kaha ??? Agar Allama Iqbal ne mulla ke khilaaf kuch likha hai to aap ke khayal mein wo deen ya deeni parties ke khilaaf baat hai???
Janab e mann mullaiyat aur deeni nizam mein bouhat farq hai, aur Iqbal ke nazdeek maulviyun ka pesh kerda nizam deen nahin tha........
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Ghaliban 1930's main Iqbal (r.a.) ne Moulana Maoudoodi (r.a.) ko aik letter bheja keh aap Hydrabad choR ker Mashraqi Punjab (Pthan Kot) chley JayaiN ...aur us ko jagha ko apna markez bna ker Islami ki tableegh-o-ishaat ka beRa uthaiN...aur (on th RECORD hai)keh Moulana ko Iqbal ka woh letter jab pohNchaya giya to Moulana ne foran yeh faisla kiya aur Phatan Kot mutaqil ho giye...jis ki baqaida tareekhi 'gawahi' mojood hai....Day Light sahb is sab ka bhi Inkaar ker dain (aap ke lie liya mushkil hai.... )
Maza to tub hai jab aap wo letter jo Allama Iqbal ne bheja yahan pesh ker dein......tab hi yakeen aaye ga na.
Doosri baat agar Iqbal ne aisa kiya bhi ho to kuch baeed nahin ke 1933 ke Maudodi aur 1940 to 47 ke maudodi main zameen aasman ka farq tha......
Maudodi sahib ne mazameen likhne ka aghaaz jab kiya to wo Allama Iqbal ke nazariyya e qaumiyyat ki taeed kertay rahay, aur yun unhon ne musalmaano aur khaas taur pe iqbali halqon mein apni pehchaan banayi, wesay tab tak maudodi sahib bhi clean shave thay aur wo baad mein bhi iska aitraf kertay hain ke main daarhi mondhata raha ya shave kerta tha........kher uskay baad jab ye kaafi mashoor ho gaye to inka doosra roop 1941 mein saamne aya jab inhon ne muslim league aur Allama Iqbal ke nazariyya e qaumiyyat ke khilaf likhna shuru kiya.....
Saboot iska aaj bhi majood hai, inka kitab mein wo tamam mazameen shamil hain,
Musalmaan aur majooda siyasi kashmakash ki pehli 2 jildein allama iqbal ke khayalaat ki taeed kerti hain jabke teesri jild mein uski sakht mukhalfat kertay hain aur teesri jild ke mazameen 1941 ke tarjaman ul quran mein shaya hotay rahay baad mein kitabi shakal mein aaye......
Yaad rahay ke Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani ne bhi yahi technique use ki thi nke pehlay islam par mazameen likhay phir jab usko musalmaano mein kabi maqbooliyat ho gayi to usne mehdi aur phir nabi honay ka daawa kar diya,
Ye misaal pesh kerne se mera maqsad dono ka mowazna karna nahin balkeh ye batana maqsood hai k jab kisi ke 2 mukhtalif roop hon to baad waalay roop ko nazar andaaz kerna ghalati hai.
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Aur is ka jawab Iqbal ke doosrey shei r se:
Jalal-e-Padshahi ho keh Jamhoori tamasha ho
Juda hoo deeN siysat se to reh jati hai ChaNgezi
Jalal-e-Padshahi ho keh Jamhoori tamasha ho
Juda hoo deeN siysat se to reh jati hai ChaNgezi
O yara g Allama Iqbal mulla aur mullaiyat ke khilaaf thay Deen ke nahin,
Aur wo inn mazhabi parties jinko aap ghalat taur pe deeni parties keh rahay hain ke nazariiya ke khilaaf thay......
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Yeh Pakistan dushman fiqrah bhi kisi 'Molvi' ne kaha tha keh:
" Masjid ban.ney ki jagha per to ikhtalaf ho sakta hai...laken jab masjid ban jaye, to phir sab ko wahan azzan de ker namaz paRni ho ti hai "
" Masjid ban.ney ki jagha per to ikhtalaf ho sakta hai...laken jab masjid ban jaye, to phir sab ko wahan azzan de ker namaz paRni ho ti hai "
Itni c baat nahin samjhay aap ?? Aakhir unko pakistan mein bhi to rehna tha na, aur jab unn par tanqeed hui ke pakistan ki mukhalfat kertay rahay to ab pakistan mein kyun aa bethay ho to unhon ne ye "siyasi bayan" diya.......warna unko yahan ghusne kon deta agar wo aisay bayaan de kar apni position saaf na kertay to ???
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