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So Topi Drama ends smile.gif Wo tarmeemi bill jiskay mutallik irshaad tha ke ye masjid e zaraar hai najane kya jadu hua ke 4 points ke izafay ke saath and "NO DELETION " wo masjid e zaraar masjid e paak bun gai :d

Zana bil jabar jo sirf taazeer mein tha usko wesay hi rehne diya hai taazeer mein bus hudh mein bhi shaamil kar liya......yani kuch delete nahin hua last tarmeemi bill se.

Fahashi ke naam se aik nayi dafa shamil ki gayi hai yahan bhi bill se kuch delete nahin hau......

Kahan hain ab wo loag jo kehtay nahin thuktay thay ke iss tarmeemi bill mein sub kuch ghair islami hai???? Kaha ja raha tha ke 22 ke kareeb dafaat ghair islami hain etc etc

Bus deen ke naam pe siyasat kerne walon ka yahi shor tha ke aik do cheezain add kar li........Agar wo bill islam ke khilaaf sazish, Hudood Ullah ko badalnay ki sazish thi to uss bill mein se koi dafa nikali kyun nahin gayi ???

Shame Shame Shame islam ke naam pe siyasat chamkanay walon ke liye
Shame Shame Shame.

khan_amer


It is Just Typical MMA Style

Stunt bhi ho gaya, Hokammat kay khilaaf shor sharaba ker kay "shahedooN" maiN bhi shamil ho gay.. aur Hakomat ka bhi kaam ho gaya laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Hadood, Mma aur Govt


MMA chahti thi keh (so called) Tahffuz-e-NisawaN bill assembly main paish kiye janey se pahley ...ulama-e-karam ke samney paish kiye jai ....aur Jayyad Ulma ki aik 'comittee' is main ki janey wali changes (ya tarameem) k jaiza le...

Al-Hamdulillah MMA ke preesure (aur istefoon ki dhamki ki wajha se) ) hakoomat yeh (jaiz) mutalba man.ney per majboor hoi (warna pahley hakoomat ka aisa koi iradah nahi tha...

Ulama ki 10 rukni committee ne poorey bil ko review ker liya hai....laken abhi bil assmbly main paish nahi hoa ....hakoomat ko bill pass kerney ki bohat jaldi thi...laken Ch. Shujaat (ki is issue per samjh.dari se ) ma'amla kuch delay ho giya hai...ab isey aap Musharraf/ Dr. Niyazi ki shakst keh lain ya MMA ki ftah ...jo naam bhi aap dena chahain de saktey hain


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Drop Scene


Itni jaldi 'Drop scene' ka elan na karain...ThoRa sa intizar ker lain, bill aik baar assembly main paish ho jai, mukhtalif pahloo clear hooney ke baad hi 'comments' diye jain to behtar hai...!!


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Day Light pta nahi kis baat per 'dant' nikal rahey hain....abhi bill per kuch bhi kehna qabl.az.waqt hai...

HaaN itna zaroor hai, keh MQM (aur Day Light) ki 'mudaaiN' shaid poori na hoo....i ke liye to afsoos ka muqam hai... (khushi ka nahi) tongue.gif


HaaN itna zaroor hai, keh MQM (aur Day Light) ki 'muradaiN' shaid poori na hoo....in ke liye to afsoos ka muqam hai... (khushi ka nahi) tongue.gif

QUOTE(khan_amer @ Sep 12 2006, 10:02 AM) [snapback]2178722[/snapback]

It is Just Typical MMA Style


MMA ne apni 'hikmat.kari' se doo ahm (2) mutlabey manwa liye :

1) Ordinece jald pass kerney ki bjai , sooch samjh ker aur ghoor-e-fiker ke ba'ad paish kiya jai

2) Is Ordince per Mulk ke mumtaz ULMA ki raye li jai....

Yes, it is just MMA style..

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khan_amer
QUOTE(LEADER @ Sep 12 2006, 01:16 PM) [snapback]2178724[/snapback]

MMA chahti thi keh (so called) Tahffuz-e-NisawaN bill assembly main paish kiye janey se pahley ...ulama-e-karam ke samney paish kiye jai ....aur Jayyad Ulma ki aik 'comittee' is main ki janey wali changes (ya tarameem) k jaiza le...

Al-Hamdulillah MMA ke preesure (aur istefoon ki dhamki ki wajha se) ) hakoomat yeh (jaiz) mutalba man.ney per majboor hoi (warna pahley hakoomat ka aisa koi iradah nahi tha...

Ulama ki 10 rukni committee ne poorey bil ko review ker liya hai....laken abhi bil assmbly main paish nahi hoa ....hakoomat ko bill pass kerney ki bohat jaldi thi...laken Ch. Shujaat (ki is issue per samjh.dari se ) ma'amla kuch delay ho giya hai...ab isey aap Musharraf/ Dr. Niyazi ki shakst keh lain ya MMA ki ftah ...jo naam bhi aap dena chahain de saktey hain

Itni jaldi 'Drop scene' ka elan na karain...ThoRa sa intizar ker lain, bill aik baar assembly main paish ho jai, mukhtalif pahloo clear hooney ke baad hi 'comments' diye jain to behtar hai...!!
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Day Light pta nahi kis baat per 'dant' nikal rahey hain....abhi bill per kuch bhi kehna qabl.az.waqt hai...

HaaN itna zaroor hai, keh MQM (aur Day Light) ki 'mudaaiN' shaid poori na hoo....i ke liye to afsoos ka muqam hai... (khushi ka nahi) tongue.gif


HaaN itna zaroor hai, keh MQM (aur Day Light) ki 'muradaiN' shaid poori na hoo....in ke liye to afsoos ka muqam hai... (khushi ka nahi) tongue.gif
MMA ne apni 'hikmat.kari' se doo ahm (2) mutlabey manwa liye :

1) Ordinece jald pass kerney ki bjai , sooch samjh ker aur ghoor-e-fiker ke ba'ad paish kiya jai

2) Is Ordince per Mulk ke mumtaz ULMA ki raye li jai....

Yes, it is just MMA style..

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MMA aur uss key hikmat-e-amliyaaN laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Is le ilawa aap keh bhi kiya saktey hain....akhir maan gaye na biggrin.gif
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Is le ilawa aap keh bhi kiya saktey hain....akhir maan gaye na


hahaha bhai ji maanay huway to bari der ke hain :D

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MMA chahti thi keh (so called) Tahffuz-e-NisawaN bill assembly main paish kiye janey se pahley ...ulama-e-karam ke samney paish kiye jai ....aur Jayyad Ulma ki aik 'comittee' is main ki janey wali changes (ya tarameem) k jaiza le...


Yani MMA usko parhay bagher hi usko ghair islami keh rahi thi ??? pehlay parh to letay wo to bill pesh honay par uski copies phhaar akr uss par naachtay hi rahay :d

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Al-Hamdulillah MMA ke preesure (aur istefoon ki dhamki ki wajha se)


Pressure :d :d Istefon ki dhamki hahahah kis duniya mein hain aap??
Agar hakumat koi kaam sub ki pasand ko madd e nazar rakh k kar rahi hai to iski tareef kijiye kyunke wo bill pass kerne par atay to MMA walay unko roak nahin saktay thay........
Jahan tak istefon ki baat hai to sub jaantay hain ke MMA ko kursi se kitna pyar hai :d :d

Baki pressure......hmmmmm agar MMA mein itni hi taqat hai ke wo pressure create kar skaay to ab tak wardi kyun nahin utrava sakay??? kehtay hain ke sadar ne kaha tha ke dec 2004 mein wardi utar doon ga sadar ne wada khilaafi ki hai to bhai mere istefay de kar hakumat ko pressurize kyun nahin kiya???
MMA walay khud musharraf hakumat ko ghair islami kehtay hain to istefay de kar aik ghair islami hakumat ke liye pressure aur mushkilaat kyun nahin create kar rahay???

Kursi ke pyaray hain ye meray bhai jaan smile.gif


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ab isey aap Musharraf/ Dr. Niyazi ki shakst keh lain ya MMA ki ftah ...jo naam bhi aap dena chahain de saktey hain


MashAllah , yani agar musharraf koi kaam bagher mashwaray ke karay to wo Aamir aur Baadshah aur agar mushawarat se karay to ye uski shikast hahahaha bouhat achay :d

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HaaN itna zaroor hai, keh MQM (aur Day Light) ki 'muradaiN' shaid poori na hoo....in ke liye to afsoos ka muqam hai... (khushi ka nahi)


Meri konsi muraadein hain janab :D

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ghoor-e-fiker ke ba'ad paish kiya jai


Assemblies mein naachnay aur naaray baazi kerne walay ghaur o fikr kerna bhi jaantay hain??? hmmmmmmm
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ChooN.keh "Ghor-o-Fikar",, sirf (humarey) DAY LIGHT hi ker saktey hain aur un ki , is per khas ajara dari hai..)lahaza unhi ke 'ghoro-o-fiker' ke liye chaNd khabraiN paish haiN : StayAway.gif

khabar.dar koi aur (is ordinence per) ghoro-o-fiker ki kooshish na karey, warna Day Light us ki.... laugh.gif


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Mulahiza fermayaiN keh Altaf Hussdain (bhatta khoor) aur un ke wakeel-e-khas (janab Day Light) , MMA ke barey bilkul aik language use ker rahey hain...waah kiya hum.aHanagi hai...(inti hum.ahaNgi to un main bhi nahi hoti jo aik doosrey ke laNgootiye hooN ) blink.gif :

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Goya ab Altaf Hussain peer ke saath sath MUFTI bhi ban gaye hain...... look.gif

Day Ligh ! Kiya Altaf sahb ko aap ne 'ghoro--o-fikar' ki ijazat da hai ...ya un ke liye koi pabandi
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QUOTE(Daylight @ Sep 12 2006, 02:58 PM) [snapback]2178814[/snapback]

Pressure :d :d Istefon ki dhamki hahahah kis duniya mein hain aap??



Phai ji, baat yeh hai keh main to isi duniya main reh raha hooN...laken aap pta nahi koun si_______Jannat main reh rahey hain...?? Kiya DAWN akhbar ka naam suna hai ??

Yeh MMA ka khabar to nahi hai na ? ...(zra tasalli ker lain) aur phir yeh news pharaiN:


Govt yields to MMA on Hudood laws:

By Ahmad Hassan

ISLAMABAD, Sept 11: The government on Monday succumbed to the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal’s pressure for renegotiating the controversial Women’s Rights bill apparently because of the alliance’s threat to quit assemblies and provincial governments if the bill was passed without its consent.

With a team of government-appointed ulema rejecting a number of clauses, the bill — which had been finalised by the National Assembly’s select committee — became ineffective and in effect stood withdrawn, and now a redrafted bill would be tabled in parliament.

Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly and MMA secretary-general Maulana Fazlur Rehman announced that his alliance had succeeded in making the government realise that it was wrong in bringing the bill to parliament without a consensus.

He urged the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) not to make it an issue of ego and recalled that the 1973 Constitution, given by the founder of the PPP, the late Z.A. Bhutto, clearly mentioned that no legislation could be made in violation of the injunctions of Holy Quran.

Later, an MMA team comprising Hafiz Hussain Ahmed, Liaquat Baloch, Maulana Asadullah Bhutto, Maulana Abdul Malik, Maulana Naseeb Ali Shah and Allama Jalil Naqvi held another meeting with the government negotiating team.

From the government’s side, the meeting was attended also by Wasi Zafar, Shahid Akram Bhinder and the law secretary as well as some members of the ulema team, including Mufti Taqi Usmani, Mufti Munibur Rahman, Dr Sarfaraz Naeemi, Hanif Jallandhri and Maulana Hasan Jan.

According to insiders, the meeting discussed the draft bill clause by clause and felt that it needed a ‘thorough revision’. The sources said the meeting agreed that four clauses needed to be changed.

Hafiz Hussain Ahmed, head of the MMA’s negotiating team, announced after the meeting: “We will decide to support or oppose the bill after ascertaining if the alliance’s reservations have been addressed.”

He said one thing was clear that the draft bill carried a number of un-Islamic clauses which the government had agreed to annul.

“We are in no hurry to get the redrafted bill passed and will ask the government to take all the parties, including PPP Parliamentarians, on board before its re-introduction in parliament,” he said.

Mr Liaquat Baloch said: “We have made it clear to the government that the best solution to such issues will only be found when all laws are referred to the reconstituted Council of Islamic Ideology for bringing them in conformity with Islam.”

Meanwhile, a statement signed by the ulema’s team said that as a result of detailed discussions several issues had, in principle, been agreed upon.

Chaudhry Shujaat asked ulema to guide the government on disputed issues as an impression was being created that certain clauses were included in the bill in violation of Quran and Sunnah. He said the government did not want to do anything that was in violation of Hudood, Shariah and Quran and Sunnah.

One of the three amendments proposed in the agreement said that the crime of zina-bil-jabr (rape), which the bill had taken out of the 1979 ordinance and incorporated in the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC), be made subject to the Islamic Hadd punishment for Zina (adultery) — stoning to death — if it fulfilled the requirements of such a Hadd.

It also proposed insertion of a new section in the PPC — in place of “zina liable to ta’zir” in the old Hudood ordinance — with the text: “A man and a woman are said to commit lewdness if they wilfully have sexual intercourse with one another and shall be punished with imprisonment which may extend to five years and shall also be liable to fine.”

The agreement also proposed replacement of section 3 of the 1979 ordinance with a new one, saying: “In the interpretation and application of this ordinance the injunctions of Islam as laid down in the holy Quran and Sunnah shall have effect notwithstanding anything contained in any other law for the time being in force.”

The original section 3, which the bill had sought to be deleted, said: “The provisions of this ordinance shall have effect notwithstanding anything contained in any other law for the time being in force.”

The ulema attending the meeting said a broad understanding had been reached on protection of women rights in line with the Quran and Sunnah and nothing repugnant to Quran and Sunnah was left in the bill.


http://www.dawn.com/2006/09/12/top1.htm

Yeh dawn ki main HEADLINE news hai...ab aap batain keh kis duniya main hain ???????

Khabar ka matan kiya bta raha hai....Day Light ab to aNkhooN se pardah hta daiN !!




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ChooN.keh "Ghor-o-Fikar",, sirf (humarey) DAY LIGHT hi ker saktey hain aur un ki , is per khas ajara dari hai


Aap to ghussa hi kar gaye bhai jan biggrin.gif

Ab sub loag dekhiye ke "Ulama" goes with the Quran or not......

Surah An Noor ki ayat 4 se aagay parhein jis mein kaha gaya hai ke kisi aurat par agar koi bud kari ka ilzam lagaye to uss ke liye 4 gawah le kar aaye , agar aisa na ho saka to aurat bay gunah qarar paaye gi ..........Lekin iss tarmeem mein jo ulama hazraat ne barqaraar rakhi hai kaha gaya hai ke agar 4 gawah mil gaye to hudh jari ho gai aur na milay to tub bhi saza di ja sakay gi taazeer ke tehet jabke Quran kehta hai ke nahin wo bari ho jaaye gi.........

Logon ko aitraz hota hai ke "ulama" bhala Quran ki mukhalfat ker saktay hain to apni aankhon se dekh lijiye


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inti hum.ahaNgi to un main bhi nahi hoti jo aik doosrey ke laNgootiye hooN


Tussi te wakayi ghussa kar gaye biggrin.gif

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Goya ab Altaf Hussain peer ke saath sath MUFTI bhi ban gaye hain......


Kya Quran ka jaan-na har kisi ka haq nahin??

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Pressure :d :d Istefon ki dhamki hahahah kis duniya mein hain aap??


Dawn ho ya jasarat khabron se farq nahin parta, ground realities dekhiye.......

Chalain maan liya ke MMA hakumat ko na sirf pressurize kar sakti hai balkeh uss se apni baat bhi manwa sakti hai

to aham sawal ye hai ke ab tak wardi kyun nahin utrawa sakay?? Itnay arsay se sirf shor daal rahay hain.......If they can create pressure aur wo wardi ke maamlay mein aisa nahin kar rahay that means ye unki hakumat ke saath deal hai.......

If they can create problems and create pressure for musharraf govt. to MMA walay khud musharraf hakumat ko ghair islami kehtay hain to istefay de kar aik ghair islami hakumat ke liye pressure aur mushkilaat kyun nahin create kar rahay???

Kya ye bhi koi deal hai???

Janab agar MMA iss qabil hai to ye baat unkay khilaaf jati hai kyunke iska matlab yahi hai ke wo musharraf se "deal" kar chukay hain kuch maamlaat par.......

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QUOTE(Daylight @ Sep 12 2006, 10:02 PM) [snapback]2178937[/snapback]



Chalain maan liya ke MMA hakumat ko na sirf pressurize kar sakti hai balkeh uss se apni baat bhi manwa sakti hai

to aham sawal ye hai ke ab tak wardi kyun nahin utrawa sakay?? Itnay arsay se sirf shor daal rahay hain.......If they can create pressure aur wo wardi ke maamlay mein aisa nahin kar rahay that means ye unki hakumat ke saath deal hai.......

If they can create problems and create pressure for musharraf govt. to MMA walay khud musharraf hakumat ko ghair islami kehtay hain to istefay de kar aik ghair islami hakumat ke liye pressure aur mushkilaat kyun nahin create kar rahay???

Kya ye bhi koi deal hai???

Janab agar MMA iss qabil hai to ye baat unkay khilaaf jati hai kyunke iska matlab yahi hai ke wo musharraf se "deal" kar chukay hain kuch maamlaat par.......



So, you want to cahnge the TOPIC..??

Ager dasrey issues discuss kerney haiN to niya thread start ker lain ...behtar rahey ga...

yahan sirf is baat ka jawab daiN...keh Hudood Ord. per MMA apna pressure dalney main kamyab rahi ya nahi ?? (wasey aap maan to gaye hain , keh MMA ko kamyabi hoi hai smile.gif ..aur yehi main aap se manwana chata tha.... nana.gif cool.gif )
khan_amer
This is a Warning Message for HC Member LEADER.


App iss thread maiN HC Member Daylight per musalsal Personal Attack kiya ja rahay haiN. Current Affairs maiN behas kay bunyadi maqasid halat-e-Hazira say aagaihi hay aur iss baray maiN dosrooN key raye jan'na hay.

App nay jis taraah kay Personal Attacks kiya haiN inn ka nateeja sirf nafrataiN aur ranjishooN key surat maiN hi nikalta hay. ju kay HC ka maqsood hergiz nahi.

App say iltaymaas hay kay apnay rawi'a per nazr-e-sani karaiN aur apnay lehjay maiN sha'istagee paida karaiN. mujhay DaR hay kay agr app aisa kernay maiN nakaam rahay tu app key posts edit/del bhi ho sakteeN haiN.
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QUOTE(khan_amer @ Sep 13 2006, 05:53 AM) [snapback]2178984[/snapback]

This is a Warning Message for HC Member LEADER.
App iss thread maiN HC Member Daylight per musalsal Personal Attack kiya ja rahay haiN. Current Affairs maiN behas kay bunyadi maqasid halat-e-Hazira say aagaihi hay aur iss baray maiN dosrooN key raye jan'na hay.

App nay jis taraah kay Personal Attacks kiya haiN inn ka nateeja sirf nafrataiN aur ranjishooN key surat maiN hi nikalta hay. ju kay HC ka maqsood hergiz nahi.

App say iltaymaas hay kay apnay rawi'a per nazr-e-sani karaiN aur apnay lehjay maiN sha'istagee paida karaiN. mujhay DaR hay kay agr app aisa kernay maiN nakaam rahay tu app key posts edit/del bhi ho sakteeN haiN.
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Laken day light ne mujh se koi shikwa nahi kiya ...aur na hi koi narazgi zahir ki hai...phir aap !

Kiya aap 'personal attacks' ki defination kerna pasaNd fermain ge...neez is trah ke personal attacks to mujh per bohat hoey hain ...un ke barey aap ka kiya khiyal hai ??

Ager MMA ke muzaiz LEADERS tanqeed ya (so called ) personal attacks se bala.ter nahi to phir (un per attcaks kerney wala) kesey bala.ter ho sakta hai ???

I looking forward to see 'logical' answer from you
LEADER
Aap ne mujhey meri 'ghalti' per WARN kiya ...mujhey bhi ijazat dain keh main bhi aap ko ap ki ghalti per maiN WARN nahi to ALERT ker sakooN...(ghaltiyooN se to koi bhi paak nahi hai) ...kiya mujhey bhi ijazat hai ?? 1-think.gif
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QUOTE(LEADER @ Sep 13 2006, 09:53 AM) [snapback]2178996[/snapback]

Laken day light ne mujh se koi shikwa nahi kiya ...aur na hi koi narazgi zahir ki hai...phir aap !

Kiya aap 'personal attacks' ki defination kerna pasaNd fermain ge...neez is trah ke personal attacks to mujh per bohat hoey hain ...un ke barey aap ka kiya khiyal hai ??

Ager MMA ke muzaiz LEADERS tanqeed ya (so called ) personal attacks se bala.ter nahi to phir (un per attcaks kerney wala) kesey bala.ter ho sakta hai ???

I looking forward to see 'logical' answer from you




maiN yahaaN ka sirf member nahi hooN, ju app kay rawi'a maiN khamoshi ikhtay'aar kiya rahooN. behas kay doraan agr personal attacks shoro ho jayaiN tu behas ka koy nateeja nahi nikalta. ( pata nahi app ko yeh point kyoN samajh nahi aata)

mera bunyadi fara'iz maiN yahaaN per khush.gawaar mahool qayam rakhna hay, iss kay liya yeh zaroori hay kay koy bhi kisi per personal attack na karay aur agr koy kerta hay aur ussay ba'wajooh ja'iz bhi samjhta hay tu uss per action looN.

App per jahaaN jahaaN personal Attacks howay link muhiya karaiN jahaaN per app key zaat ko tanqeed ka nishana banaya gaya. wazah rahay kay " Pehlay post paRh liya karaiN" ya issi kisam kay jumlay personal attack maiN shamil nahi hotay. balkay jis taraah app nay danista Daylight key tazheek kerna shoroo key thee woh personal attacks maiN shamil hotay haiN.

MMA kay leaders ko qom key imamat ka dawa hay. agr woh koy sahi amal kertay haiN tu tareef kay ahl hotay haiN aur ghalat kertay haiN tu un per tanqeed bhi qom ka haq hay. agr woh tanqeed pasand nahi kertay ya kisi ko bhi un per tanqeed key ijazat na dee jaye tu phir same applies on the President of Pakistan and Leader of MQM. jin per app kay remarks on record haiN.

Umeed hay kay ab app behas.baraye.behas kay bajaye meri shifarishaat per ghor karaiN gay.
khan_amer
QUOTE(LEADER @ Sep 13 2006, 10:06 AM) [snapback]2179002[/snapback]

Aap ne mujhey meri 'ghalti' per WARN kiya ...mujhey bhi ijazat dain keh main bhi aap ko ap ki ghalti per maiN WARN nahi to ALERT ker sakooN...(ghaltiyooN se to koi bhi paak nahi hai) ...kiya mujhey bhi ijazat hai ?? 1-think.gif



Agr app ko kaheeN ghalati nazr aati hay tu bata daiN. islaah key gunjaish tu baher.haal mojod hoti hi hay.
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QUOTE(khan_amer @ Sep 13 2006, 07:14 AM) [snapback]2179006[/snapback]



MMA kay leaders ko qom key imamat ka dawa hay..




MMA ke kis LEADER ne dawa kiya hai keh woh qoum ka IMAM hai...zra naam to bataiN...? koi saboot ... any news cutting ??

KahiN aisa to nahi , keh aap yeh DAWA (un ki tarf se) ker rahey hain...aur naam un ka le rahey hain ??

Imam ki jo defination aap ferma rahey hain...us hisab to ksi saction ka MOD bhi imam hi kahlaey ga,,, to kiya us per bhi personal attacks ho saktey hain ??


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khan_amer
QUOTE(LEADER @ Sep 13 2006, 11:31 AM) [snapback]2179029[/snapback]

MMA ke kis LEADER ne dawa kiya hai keh woh qoum ka IMAM hai...zra naam to bataiN...? koi saboot ... any news cutting ??

KahiN aisa to nahi , keh aap yeh DAWA (un ki tarf se) ker rahey hain...aur naam un ka le rahey hain ??

Imam ki jo defination aap ferma rahey hain...us hisab to ksi saction ka MOD bhi imam hi kahlaey ga,,, to kiya us per bhi personal attacks ho saktey hain ??


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See ab app kahaaN per apna aur mera waqt zaya ker rahay haiN, Mujhay yaqeen hay kay app iss jumlay aur lafz kay ma'fi'al.zammeer say agaah haiN per phir bhi aitraaz ker rahay haiN
tu mukhtasaran arz hay
Imam ka matlab kya hay? the one who leads. ab yeh leading kisi bhi type key ho sakti hay, infact Arabic Language maiN Imam, football team ka Captian bhi ho sakta hay.

per hamaray logooN nay kuch lafz muakhsoos ker diya haiN. never think ou tof box .. for some reason i dont know.

Tu qisa MMA ka yeh hay kay in ka dawa hay kay Mush & Co. hamaray Pakistan ko tabaah aur barbaad ker rahay haiN aur in kay pass koy aisi hikmat hay ya giDar.Sungi hay kay agr log inhay follow karaiN tu Pakistan bach sakta hay... tu agr yeh Imamaat nahi hay tu aur kiya hay???


2ndly app key eak ghalat fehmi maiN door kerta chalooN... tanqeed MMA kay leaders kay faislooN, aur bayanaat aur un harkatooN per hotee hay ju kisi bhi insaan ko zaib nahi dayteeN...




LEADER
QUOTE(khan_amer @ Sep 13 2006, 09:14 AM) [snapback]2179043[/snapback]


2ndly app key eak ghalat fehmi maiN door kerta chalooN... tanqeed MMA kay leaders kay faislooN, aur bayanaat aur un harkatooN per hotee hay ju kisi bhi insaan ko zaib nahi dayteeN...


MMA ke LEADERS ki aur 'harkat' ... 1-announce1.gif

ایم ایم اے: حدود مسودہ مسترد


ذیشان حیدر
بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، اسلام آباد

تحفظِ نسواں بل کے حوالے سے حکومت اور ایم ایم اے میں مذاکرات اور اختلافات کا سلسلہ جاری ہے اور متحدہ مجلس عمل نے حدود آرڈیننس میں ترامیم کے حوالے سے ترمیمی مسودے کو بھی ناقص قرار دیتے ہوئے مسترد کر دیا ہے۔
قومی اسمبلی میں قائدِ حزب ِاختلاف اور ایم ایم اے کے رہنما مولانا فضل الرحمان نے پریس کانفرنس سے خطاب کرتے ہوئے کہا کہ وزارتِ قانون کی جانب سے تیار کردہ ترمیمی مسودے میں وہ سفارشات شامل نہیں جن پر علماء نے واضح ہدایات دی تھیں اور جنہیں حکومت قبول کرنے پر آمادہ تھی۔ انہوں نے اس مسودے کو وزارتِ قانون کی بدنیتی قرار دیا۔

اس سے قبل بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام سے بات کرتے ہوئے ایم ایم اے کے رہنما حافظ حسین احمد کا کہنا تھا کہ انہوں نے علماء کمیٹی کے ساتھ نئی ترامیم پر بات کی ہے اور سرکاری علماء نے ان کی نشاندہی پر بل میں مزید چار ترامیم سے اتفاق کیا ہے۔ تاہم اب انہیں انتظار ہے کہ جن تازہ ترامیم کی نشاندہی انہوں نے کی ہے آیا حکومت انہیں نئے مسودے میں شامل کرتی ہے یا نہیں۔

اس سلسلے میں وزیرِ قانون وصی ظفر نے صحافیوں سے بات کرتے ہوئے کہا کہ بل پرتمام جماعتوں کے اتفاق کی کوششیں جاری رہیں گے اور اس معاملے پر سب کے خدشات اور تحفظات دور کرنے کی کوشش کی جائے گی بل کو اتفاقِ رائے کے بعد ہی اسمبلی میں پیش کیا جائے گا۔


http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2...d_mma_sen.shtml

Lagta hai hakoomat (Ch. Chujaat) per Amreeka aur amreeka nawaz party MQM ka kafi pressure hai...keh Ulama ki tarmeemat ko nazar aNdaz kiya jai !@!!! look.gif
Daylight
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Lagta hai hakoomat (Ch. Chujaat) per Amreeka aur amreeka nawaz party MQM ka kafi pressure hai...keh Ulama ki tarmeemat ko nazar aNdaz kiya jai !@!!!


Wesay sochne ki baat hai ke America ko kya zaroorat pari hai ke Surah Noor ki ayaat 4 aur 5 par amal ho???
LEADER
QUOTE(Daylight @ Sep 14 2006, 07:58 PM) [snapback]2179613[/snapback]

Wesay sochne ki baat hai ke America ko kya zaroorat pari hai ke Surah Noor ki ayaat 4 aur 5 par amal ho???


Ji aap ne sahi feramaya, amreeka nahi chahta keh Pakistan Main QURAN ka nizaam nafiz ho...aur Fahashi ka sad-e-bab ho, isi liye woh ULMA ke tarmeem shudah bill ki (under ground) mukhalifat ker raha hai >............aur MQM bhi (usi ke isharey per) ser.garm-e-amal hai !
jasoos
Religion and politics are two different things. Mixing the two to achieve your personal goals is shameful. I think that mullah geeri should be banned in pakistan. One should keep his/her religion to himself. doosron ke ooper thonpnay ka kisi ko haq nahi.
Khalish
QUOTE(jasoos @ Sep 15 2006, 07:17 AM) [snapback]2179656[/snapback]

Religion and politics are two different things. Mixing the two to achieve your personal goals is shameful. I think that mullah geeri should be banned in pakistan. One should keep his/her religion to himself. doosron ke ooper thonpnay ka kisi ko haq nahi.


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One should keep his/her religion to himself. doosron ke ooper thonpnay ka kisi ko haq nahi.



Chalye, iss post meiN kisi ne tu kaam ki baat ki. Ab hona yeh chahiye keh jab kisi musalman ke ghar baccha paida ho tu usske kaan meiN azaan na di jaaey. Aur jab voh uthne baithne, khaane peene, sunne boolne ke qaabil ho jaaey tu uss ke saamne kisi qism ki mazhabi baat na ki jaaey .. issi haalat meiN usse baaligh hone diya jaaey aur agar voh kisi bhi mazhab ko ikhtiyaar karna chahay tu yeh usska haq mana jaaey agar voh koi mazhab tasleem na kare aur Khuda ka munkar rahe tu yeh bhi usska haq mana jaaey... Insaan apne bacchooN ko insaan samajh kar na paale, balke janwar samajh kar paale jinke daane paane, aur mousam ki sakhtiyooN se bacchou ka samaan kare .. baaqi unhaiN unke haal per chooR dey ...
jasoos
QUOTE(Khalish @ Sep 15 2006, 07:32 AM) [snapback]2179688[/snapback]


Chalye, iss post meiN kisi ne tu kaam ki baat ki. Ab hona yeh chahiye keh jab kisi musalman ke ghar baccha paida ho tu usske kaan meiN azaan na di jaaey. Aur jab voh uthne baithne, khaane peene, sunne boolne ke qaabil ho jaaey tu uss ke saamne kisi qism ki mazhabi baat na ki jaaey .. issi haalat meiN usse baaligh hone diya jaaey aur agar voh kisi bhi mazhab ko ikhtiyaar karna chahay tu yeh usska haq mana jaaey agar voh koi mazhab tasleem na kare aur Khuda ka munkar rahe tu yeh bhi usska haq mana jaaey...




I fully agree with this post. chalain kisi ko to meri baat samajh mein aayeee yahan pe.
yeh jaan ker khushi hui ke ab bhi pakistan mein aisay log maujood hain jo dil ke bajaye dimaagh se sochtay hain aur tassub aur nafret ke bajaye insaaniyat pe yaqeen rakhtay hain.
LEADER
QUOTE(jasoos @ Sep 15 2006, 07:39 PM) [snapback]2179975[/snapback]

I fully agree with this post. chalain kisi ko to meri baat samajh mein aayeee yahan pe.
yeh jaan ker khushi hui ke ab bhi pakistan mein aisay log maujood hain jo dil ke bajaye dimaagh se sochtay hain aur tassub aur nafret ke bajaye insaaniyat pe yaqeen rakhtay hain.


janab, aap Khalish bhai ka 'tanz' bhi nahi samjh sakey.... 0-baby.gif

(unhoon ne jo kaha hai, woh us ke bar.khilaf kehna chahtey hain...ghaliban 1-think.gif )
Khalish
QUOTE(LEADER @ Sep 16 2006, 06:37 AM) [snapback]2180018[/snapback]

janab, aap Khalish bhai ka 'tanz' bhi nahi samjh sakey.... 0-baby.gif

(unhoon ne jo kaha hai, woh us ke bar.khilaf kehna chahtey hain...ghaliban 1-think.gif )


baat ghaliban ki nahi hai 'yaqeenan' ki hai. smile.gif
khan_amer
QUOTE(jasoos @ Sep 15 2006, 10:39 PM) [snapback]2179975[/snapback]

I fully agree with this post. chalain kisi ko to meri baat samajh mein aayeee yahan pe.
yeh jaan ker khushi hui ke ab bhi pakistan mein aisay log maujood hain jo dil ke bajaye dimaagh se sochtay hain aur tassub aur nafret ke bajaye insaaniyat pe yaqeen rakhtay hain.




App key post kay hawalay say Illama Iqbal nay farmaya hay

Juda hoo DeeN say Syasat tu reh jatee hay Chengazi
Khas hay tarkeeb maiN qom-e-Rasool-e-Hashmi(SAAW)


per ju log Lasaniyat key syasat per yaqeen rakhtay haiN unhay na tu Illama kay iss shair key samajh aa saktee hay ( Altaf for example) aur na' hi unhaiN un Khas Tarkeeb ka pata chal sakta hay jis maiN MuslmaanooN ko Dhalay janay key hidayat hay. un kay samnay un kay woh Firangi aaqa haiN ju khud apnay mazhab say bayzaar haiN.

So Jasoos bhai ab yeh zaoor batayee ga kay agr app nay Muslmaan honay key wajaah yeh nahi kay app Muslmaan gher maiN paida howay haiN tu phir kya wajaah hay ( as app kay nazdeek mazhab tu zaati mamla hay)
LEADER

Opposition rift to affect anti-govt drive: Qazi

By Dawn Reporter

LAHORE, Sept 17: Jamaat-i-Islami Amir Qazi Hussain Ahmad says differences among the opposition parties on the women’s protection bill may result in a setback to the popular drive against the military dictatorship.

Talking to media people during a break in the JI’s working council meeting at Mansoora on Sunday, he said that Pakistan Muslim League President Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain and Secretary-General Mushahid Hussain had called on him the other day to discuss the bill.

Mr Qazi said that he had told the PML leaders that the country needed an end to evil practices like women’s marriage to Quran and Vani, which had not been dealt with in the proposed bill.

He said that the real problem being faced by the country was the military dictatorship and added: “The system cannot be changed without getting rid of the rule of the generals.”

He said that only a handful westernized women on the payroll of foreign NGOs were protesting against the Hudood laws. “They have no concern with the plight of Pakistani women facing hardships due to the feudal system. The honour of women can be protected only by cementing the family system the western societies sought to disintegrate.

Answering a question on Balochistan, he said that the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal leadership had told the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam that it was high time to quit the Balochistan Assembly.

“If Gen Pervez Musharraf tries to use parliament as electoral college for his re-election, the MMA would quit the assemblies with other opposition parties. “We have taken lead in this regard and shall be ahead of other parties when the opposition decides to tender resignations”.

He said that General Musharraf would quit the presidency only after large-scale mass movement. However, he added, the movement could receive a setback due to support of any opposition party to the government on the issue of Hudood laws.




Related link:

http://www.jamaat.org/news/2006/sep/17/1001.html

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panzer
Why is jasoos so anti religious? I am sure where he lives in the west there are christian influences...
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